i think you misssed the obvious first question jaak...

did you install your laptop with the driverpacks slipstreamed or did you use the dpinst tool with the packs?

Bâshrat the Sneaky is moving us to a google based search this will lighten the load on the sql server and should help make the board more responsive.

@team

http://forum.driverpacks.net/viewtopic.php?id=2373

all versions that exceed the format  Y.MM.V are by definition nightlies. (IE over six characters is nightly)
where
Y = year
MM = month
V  = Version

this is a pre-existing convention
and it is possable many of the newer members may even be unaware of it.

so anything with a format of Y.MM.DD
where DD is the day of the month or a branch number and a version letter.

IE 8.01.1A or 8.01.21 would be nightlies.

and 8.01.2 would be the second official release in January of 2008

yiuc1 wrote:

Stupid question: Are there any special requirements that you need in order to test this pack out...? Like having a graphics card that is in Graphics A?

There is only one stupid question...
     The question that is never asked.

Anyone can test it... and we hope they do. PLEASE test!
it is possable that a driver in GA could conflict with a driver in GB or GC - (maybe...)

It is obviously most helpful to hear from people who do have the device. good or bad and their HWID's.

the answer is;
no special requirements
please test and report any problems
if you have the device report your hwid for the device, and if you have success too

THe answer is our sql database size was out of control
Bâshrat the Sneaky is converting our search engine over to google.

this is work in progress, thank you for reporting!

I use the search too... ;( and i shot an email to the boss, hopefully it will not take long...

yes we can leave the files on the server indefinitely...
and we probably should

laptops are often huge thorns in our sides

base and pack versions please

quite frequently laptop drivers are OEM manufaturer specific (IE the Dell, HP or other's Nvidia driver must be used).
Reference drivers (IE from Nvidia's site) will not work in such cases.

since you have found one of these situations it is considered polite to provide a download link to the driver that does work for you.

if you need help please just ask

the files that are generated directly by the base program are officially supported. wink and are 100% working.
it is necessary to rewrite them in order to verify they are not missing or corrupt (or altered).

you certainly may alter them afterwards if you like... but it is and will be "unsupported"
please remember files like presetup.cmd might change with a newer release too... (unforeseeable reason)

PS adding new features to base is always a big deal...
it requires the time of the entire team; coder, dozens of testers, 20-translators, bug reporters, weeks of testing...
so if it is no big deal for you... ... ... wink

let us know if it works ok for you...

DriverPacks must remove itself before adding itself...
since presetup.cmd is a DriverPacks file it will be removed.
you are welcome to use another filename for your situation...
I am not going to start rewriteing base for individual users (IE this benifits only you)

I deliberately used the simplest form of all commands and layout...

It was/is my intention to make it EASY to edit for anyone with even the most basic skills.

Obviously i could have written this much differently and made it hundreds of lines long.
if i had then only advanced programers could read and modify it.
as it is advanced programmers can take it where ever they like and weekenders can read and tweak it too.

again - This is not meant to be an exercise in demonstrating my programing ability it is meant to be an outline...
as such only sugestions that simplify it are appropriate wink

I do however encourage you guys to compare notes and your personal versions with each other.
I am sure with our userbase that you guys will post some awsome ideas. i probably will not implement them for the reasons i stated. much as i will not implement the logging example/idea above. it was just a simplest form example. I belive it is best to target the users with beginner skills, the advanced users are on their own wink

the error message is an if exist file check after the copy.
so did the file get copied or not...
IE i dont know if the copy failed, or if the detection of the file after the copy failed.

but is the Hotfix included?...

the 3c905 series is an included driver of almost all versions of windows...
did you remove the native windows drivers with nlite or other program?

I belive you do not understand.
we do not have drivers in the packs if they are supported directly by windows.

perhaps you have a generic card that emulates a 3c90x?
lets see the HWID's for this card please

Have you tried it yet to see if it works???...
if you did try it may we see your DPs_BASE.log

3,941

(88 replies, posted in DriverPack LAN)

PreRelease drivers should not ever be in an officialy released pack...
they are supposed to be for testing only... I am sorry...
Thanks fragbert we will get that fixed -
Nice Catch! and thanks for reporting it...

3,942

(3 replies, posted in Dutch)

http://forum.driverpacks.net/viewtopic.php?id=2242

3,943

(4 replies, posted in Software)

yes we use fedit and have no reported issues to date.

From reading log files that have been submitted and other types of feedback
I know that we have DriverPacks running off of hundreds if not thousands of machines with sp3
I am aware of no other reports of failure related to fedit and sp3 machines.

It must be specific to something you alone are doing...

i would also like to point out the primary difference in the usage between you and the dp_base.

Base uses fedit to modify source files in a folder before createing the image that will be used to install.
we don't use fedit during the installation process... only during the slipstream (while the base program is running)

it is likely your crash and burn is a direct result of delayed write and file locking handles.
IE the file is opened before the write is actually completed by delayed write feature of windows file caching. wink

in base we are able to open and close file handles directly. smile
if you are familiar with WSH or VB or other high level script language you can also do this.

this is as good a place on the forum to post as any wink

Thanks for your feedback and continued support

3,944

(2 replies, posted in Other)

it is working for me and we have had no other reports...

the downloads are on a mirror - actually it is a CDN ( Content Delivery Network )
geographicaly dispersed including 10 gigabit cross-connects, clustered storage servers, and multi-core transaction processing servers.
it is more likely there is a problem between your location and the location you were directed to for downloading.

normaly our files are downloaded several dozen of times a minute so since this is the only report of failure i must conclude that the issue is an isolated one.

3,945

(4 replies, posted in DriverPack Graphics)

I see this message... wink

it is on the monitor directly in front of me (evil laugh...)

Jaak can only work on 5 packs at a time... hang on a sec... wink lol

Thanks for being here abdou - your time is appreciated...

jaak wrote:

and ATI CDROM have issues

I thought ATI made video cards...
...
...
...
ROFL <|8-P

Glad we could help...

well you would have had a tough time searching like that... tongue

it is actually documented in the docs\ folder of the DriverPacks base program folder it is called

DriverPack_reference_wnt5_x86-32.ini

you can use the terms in the reference file to find search keywords if you still have questions...

sorry that our documentation is not well documented ;D

Jaak may even steal some of this and use it for .INI University training... wink
and then U & I 2 could be a graduate of INIU - LOL

It really is not well documented and not surprizeingly therefore that it is also not well understood.
I am always eager to take opportunity to explain how powerful Bâshrat the Sneaky's INI / DP_finisher combo is.
It is a very versitile system and was well implemented.

the drivers get installed during setup
then the finisher checks what was installed and runs appropriate programs
based on installed hardware and the INI settings associated with that hardware.

Please ask questions as it does tend to lead to documentation that benifits many.

ps
the Finisher was often in the past plagued by people who had gotten the idea that it would install drivers - it doesn't  -

We are Now able to offer a redistributable MS tool 'DPinst.exe' which does install drivers... ty ty ty big_smile
- this is for people who need a SAD disk
- (since base ver 8.*)

Positive feedback... woo hoo...
Jaak it worked... they posted.... thud...
tee hee...

We might have to get you a reserved spot at the DP_GT Lunch Table smile wink tongue big_smile
thanks Jaak for tackling the Graphics Packs while mr_smartepants is on the road... so to speak.

some of the packs are quite a bit tougher than the others.
mr_s is the man when it comes to graphics. and graphics is one of the toughest
mr_s' title the "graphics master", was not suggested lightly...

Graphics (A, B, C) and MassStorage are the two toughest DriverPacks and Jaak has been doing both...
he also has 3k posts at DriverPacks as of this month. I believe he assisted on few other packs this month too (quietly).   

Jaak of all packs - that one just hit me wink - is a true statement,

The translations team, testing team and pack team members have been working hard as well
I have a dozen language packs that were updated as a result of 8.05
(i hope i am not the only one who sees the irony in my next statment.)
I dont think I have ever seen a post from anyone on the translations team here on the forum? wink
- they are not a very chatty bunch tongue lol ... -

It is my honor to help Bâshrat the Sneaky and the dedicated team of volunteers who make this project successful.
if you report how DriverPacks is performing for you then you are part of that team too...
(PS this team has no maximum number of players...) wink

3,949

(17 replies, posted in Software)

and you could buy a ten pack of better graphics cards on ebay for $5

Agreed... duplicates only need to be addressed when they cause a problem...

duplicate hwids and duplicate file names are a problem for sysprep.
we have a few moles from teh sysprep camp that have been trying to sneek in unofficial support.
after the disaster they recently created and the scolding and reminder that i warned them not to do these things...
It would seem they are still tunneling away...  SysPrep is supported when its announced on the news page...

Silly guys...

I agree dell has specificly requested taht ATI not provide reference drivers for dells cards.
they want to support thier own hardware so only the dell driver should be installed / is valid.

And the dell driver should not be choosen for a non dell card either. (this is where we sometimes have to edit.)