Oh, thanks Jeff but I didn't mean I don't know what MTF is (of course I do! smile).
I rather meant, I never heard of that term in conjunction with such an issue - hence my possible alternative explanation of the "lost space".

I'm also unsure how you could possibly see the size of it anyway (at least with standard Windows tools).
As you pointed out correctly, the space is not allocated, hence it should not substract from the overall amount of free space (unlike the SRP and SVI).


EDIT:
Oh well, that's kinda strange then, lordsepid .

I'm pretty sure you did make certain it's not files in the recycle bin taking up the space smile

Never heard of the term "MFT zone" before, but are you by any chance referring to the System Restore Points and/or the Shadow Copy service of Windows?

Does the System Volume Information folder also grow by that size?

The reason the files may be tagged as vital system files worth such an "in-house" backup is because they are drivers.

You can limit the SRPs either manually or using nLite to a specific percentage of the partition's total space.
Obviously, with current drive sizes, at 1%, 2GB does not sound too unlikely.

Old entries will, of course, be overwritten once the quota has been hit so you shouldn't worry too much.
That 1% of net space loss can come in quite handy when the system suddenly stops working properly after having updated a driver or installed an app.
Saved my ass quite a lot of time and is definitely faster than rolling out an image again.

OverFlow wrote:

Please find that the previously hidden team forum is now visible to you!

Also, there's neat Tester Userbars available smile

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(18 replies, posted in Other)

twipley wrote:

what do you think? please cite your sources, etc.

Sources for my thoughts?

Well, my brain, mostly, unless I'm pulling something outta my ass...

tongue big_smile

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(1 replies, posted in Vista-Tool)

No double-posts!

mad


***CLOSED***

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(1 replies, posted in Software)

No, just drivers.

Use vLite or Windows 7 Toolkit fpr SP1 slipstream.

allouh wrote:

hello everyone
i see eveyone went harsh on me because of the illegal issues.

Look, we were all just pointing out some legal issues.
A harsh reply would have been closing the thread down and banning you for even mentioning it.
We did neither, so I guess we weren't really harsh on you wink

No harm done in my book.


Anyway, well, yes, even obtaining an illegal copy of an OS (or any other copyrighted material) can already be illegal in some countries - you don't have to install it (that would additionally be a breach of user license).

Not that I or anyone cares much about what you do (and you have to judge yourself about this being morally right or not), but there's a difference when you post about that in public (=we don't like that).
It may actually give others the impression it would be an a-ok thing to do, and we don't want to give that impression, alright?


As the misunderstanding has been cleared, let's get back to business then, shall we?

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(36 replies, posted in Other)

The Troll bar is the most impressive userbar I have ever seen to this day!

Outstanding work!

Now, let's hope it's being put to good use big_smile

Still, technically, you'd have to have a license for Longhorn to use its NTLDR.
As that was only a non-public alpha/beta, that would be hard to acquire.

Second thing is providing that file for DL.
Unless MS sanctioned you as an official publisher for their files, or they offered a special license for it (as they do with some files), you cannot offer the file.
That makes those Chinese websites illegal (which might be the reason why they host it in China, after all...), and I don't think we want files from illegal sources around here, either.

And yes, that Ghost img tops it all...

Well, I can see some need for this if you are travelling and the hotel room does not have any WLAN but a phone plug.
You could then hook your notebook modem (whose drivers are ususally part of the sound card, AC'97 oder HDA) and get, albeit slow, some internet, if you are desperate wink

Over here, you are more likely to find ISDN than analogue so you'd be stuck with the modem anyway.
I'd rather recommend getting a UMTS adaptor (PCMCIA/PC card or USB) if you need to rely on internet.
As long as you have cell phone connection (you could of course also pair your phone via Bluethooth), you should be fine.

Personally, I think still putting a modem into a modern notebook is a waste of space and resources.
While it may not cost much to implement (they are most likely win modems I guess), it serves no real puprose anymore.
Some 10 years ago that may have been different, but times have changed rapidly!

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(36 replies, posted in Other)

You're most welcome!

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(36 replies, posted in Other)

Perfect, just perfect!

I took the liberty to change your User Title to reflect you fine work wink

Yeah, we like suggestions, always.
Please keep 'em coming!

We just can't and won't make use of everything, so please don't be sad, ok. smile

IDK what this toolkit is you are referring to (links would be helpful), but as long as you have at least one .INF file (and everything listed inside) you should be fine smile

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(36 replies, posted in Other)

Nice ones!

Now, if you could add an "s" to it, it'd be perfect wink

Why not put them into your own custom-made DP and have them installed automatically that way?
It's easier than it may seem, if you follow the tutorial.

Always use BASE AFTER nLite and everything else.
And directly create your ISO then (don't edit anything else, unless you really know what you are doing - probably not, else you hadn't asked, no offense, though).
You can keep nLite open between the two steps, so you can directly get back to the ISO creation screen.

Firstly, you should do ALL nLite actions (save for SP slipstream) in one single run!
Do not reuse a source!
Do not run nLite more than once!

Secondly, you should decide on one method:
Either use nLite to add drivers OR BASE.
Don't use both, that can lead to problems.

You can easily create your own DP (see sig for links) and add it via the DP3Ps.
That is probabaly the best method - it was actually conceived for this very reason, to give users the choice to add their own special drivers that would never make it into the official packs because they are too rare/specialized/whatever.

http://3rdpartydriverpacks.thesneaky.co … 2_81227.7z
Link works.

Erik, don't waste your time on this guy, apparently he is a blatant troll.
Not of the usual gimmegimme fraction but more the bitch&moan.

He wants us to do as he says and fulfill his special demands.
He's either too lazy to do the changes by himself for himself or simply too dumb to get it done right.
He didn't even realize there's CP options for DriverPack Graphics A after I explicitly shoved it under his nose...

That is exactly the kind of "customer" we don't need around here.

I can smell a troll among forum users (hence my strong reaction) and believe me, he's not the type that is going to contribute anything.

Suggestions are one thing, demands another.
If Jeff spots this, he's going to rip his head off, literally.

I was going to give him a second reply just for kicks, but I can use my time better.
I only left this open and didn't ban him for pure amusement - look at his pitiful attempts to justify his position wink
Maybe he can still serve as an example on how not to start your first post in here...

WTF is your problem, man?

The driver packs for graphics are split up by some ridiculous criteria with no real-world purpose.

Just because you don't seem to grasp our concept of splitting up the drivers (which was elaborated and discussed comprehensively among the team and everyone agreed on it!) doesn't mean you can call it stupid.
As a matter of fact, 100,000s of users before you had no problem with it, proving that the real world does not oppose to our concept.

Speaking of which, yes, it's ours, among with our project.

So you are using it in your repair shop - fine.
Our hard work saves you time AND money the like but all you do is come here and complain.
Very nice first post there, buddy...

Ever considered to donate to the project or have you just come around to complain?

We've got nVidia and ATI (the two "dedicated GPU" manufacturers) grouped into "A"

Dead on, Sherlock!
And guess what, these are the most frequently update drivers, too, so it's only logical to have them in their own pack, because that saves bandwidth...

But, look:

So far I've had to waste hours of time and tons of bandwidth downloading - then repackaging and recompressing and bug-testing

Boohoo!
Either you are totally incompetent or just simply too dumb.
So you had to waste time on that, huh?
Someone's forcing you to use the DriverPacks?
Poor sod...

The packs are intended to and do work as such being used together.
There's no overlapping and they work just fine for everyone else...

along with a bunch of unnecessary control panel installation trash on the ATI side (that, in fact, causes the driver pack to not slipstream properly - it "crashes out" silently after integrating A1 acting like it completed - that's the bug referenced in the title

Apparently, you are too dense to notice the options in BASE.
Don't like the CCC, don't enable it, period.
Read the guide first, will ya!

Oh, and bugs are to be reported at the bugtracker, kthnx!

Then we've got Intel drivers along with a bunch of unnecessary "business class" nVidia and ATI drivers.

Why are business class drivers unnecessary?
Lots of our users work as sys admin in big companies and those are exactly using aforementioned cards, you genius!

nVidia, ATI, Intel, VIA, and SiS are the five manufacturers that produce the graphics chips on about 95-98% of the computers in the shop

So, should we cater for the single needs of you very shop now or what?
And the next shop having other five-tops producers gets their own packs, as well, hum?

Do you even realize how ridiculous such a request is?

Doesn't it seem a little excessive that I'd have to download all 3 to get the drivers I need?

And by how much would the file size of a combined pack shrink by your expert calculations?
Excessive?
Give me a break!
Plus, BASE is auto-DLing the packs for you already, what kind of lazy bugger are you?



PS: Yes, I am pissed, and I know exactly how Jeff must feel all the time...

I think someone needs a swift kick in the butt to get back a sense of reality! mad

Our motto is, try first, ask later wink

Thing is, if every of the 100,000s of DP users would ask beforehand, we would be totally swarmed with requests...

Most users of the DriverPacks usually have one working machine and one to set up, so they can easily try on that one, then rebuild if it didn't work on the working machine - hence, there's no reason not to test (unless you are really short on time).

Of course, if you are going to reinstall on your one and only PC, then that's a bit difficult...

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(4 replies, posted in Other)

Off Topic, too...
We're dealing with drivers here, not Windows addons.

You can always use Daemon Tools or the like to mount an image file (IOS or similar) to a virtual optical drive and have it search from there.
Access time and trafnsfer rates as if it was a HDD folder (which it basically is) plus keeps you from wasting a DVD-R on that.
DPINST does just do that, let you search folders on HDD recursively, something that is limited to ODD by default (for reasons God knows why...).

Is VBulletin free?
I doubt we're willing to shell out some money for something we don't really need (this one does get its job done quite well, IMO).
Plus, there would always be the problem of database conversion.
Losing all the previous posts and accumulated knowledge is not an option in my book so unless that's transferable to 100% it's a no go.
We already had to make a cut when we moved here from MSFN.
Don't really like fora resets mself...

In what regard do you feel unfamiliar with this board and what advantages would changing to one you are familiar with bring about?
So far, there haven't been any complaints from other users and I doubt VB is the one everyone knows...

I suggest reading up on this (http://forum.driverpacks.net/help.php) to accustom yourself a bit more!

Because of possible severe speed issues, it is recommended to disable any on-access scanners during slipstream.
That can easily increase the time needed to finish the process from about 2min to over 15min.

You may scan the files on-demand before and after the slipstream, if you are unsure about their integrity.
That will usually be faster (although you scan them twice that way).


Also, the DP Install Tool is only needed for SAD, if you do not use that feature, you won't notice the disc is broken.