Hi !

Just wanted to say that the 806G driverpack that I downloaded today did cause a yellow exclamation mark in device manager on Windows XP SP3 on a system I briefly tested today (Asus EAH2600/PRO/HTDI/512M TV/DVI). ATI CCC was not installed.

The regular 8.04 driverpack Graphics_A did not cause this. Here, the driver was installed correctly. However, CCC was also not installed here.

Unfortunately, I only have the log from the second installation with the 8.04 DP and the system is already out of the house.

There still is no way to upload logs here and I cannot paste it into the message (too long). Should be easier for people to upload logs I think ...

Do you need the log ? The HW ID I can paste:
PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_9589&SUBSYS_01BC1043&REV_00\4&2E5EAC9&0&0008: ATI Radeon HD 2600 PRO

Bye,
Alex

Hi Phyxx,

thanks. Would you mind explaining how you would create an Acronis TI Universal Restore BootCD with the driverpacks ? Because as far as I know the TI Bootcd (both the Safe and Full versions) boots some kind of Linux, not Windows ? How would I integrate the DriverPacks into that or are you doing this differently ?

I would like to create a TI BootCD with all DriverPacks integrated so that in case of a boot emergency of a server I could boot with the TI CD, and restore an earlier image of that server to a different hardware.

Thanks,
Alex

Hi !

I also encourage everyone to think about 64bit driverpacks. I am currently using Vista x64 since I have 8GB RAM in my machine.  (cheap these days). Now, I am not entirely happy with Vista so I am thinking about downgrading to XP again but I would like to keep using the 8GB RAM inside so it probably would be XP64 then.

Anyway, thanks for listening !
Alex

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(74 replies, posted in Vista-Tool)

Hi guys,

here´s an update from me on the Vista driverintegration "thing" with respect to DVD installs and WDS installs.

Seems like the following is true for the $WinPEDriver$ folder:

1. On DVD installations it works as expected. However currently there are problems with some chipset drivers. When the Intel Chipset drivers or the Radeon SB/NB drivers are present in the folder, WinPE will stop the Bootprocess saying that some critical bootdrivers could not be loaded. Removing those drivers from the folder solved the problem. Other than that I have not found any errors. In theory, this folder is also good for bootcritical drivers, all other drivers are prestaged for the Vista setup.

2. On WDS installs, one has to watch out for 3 things:


- The $WinPEDriver$ folder has to be integrated into boot.wim so it is available on the X: driver during WinPE startup phase. Maybe it is possible to map a network drive before that but WinPE checks for the existance of this folder at a very early time so maybe networking is not available at that point in time. Since the X: drive is essentially a RAM drive I am wondering how this would work if the $WinPEDriver$ folder grows large. How will that folder fit into the RAM drive ?!? This may be a problem for the future.

- Adding network drivers to that folder is not enough for WDS boots. In addition to that, the network drivers also have to be integrated into the boot.wim image using the peimg /inf command. If this is not done, the WinPE Bootprocess will stop saying that no network driver is present for booting from the WDS Server.

- Adding the network drivers to boot.wim using the peimg /inf command does not (!) add those drivers to the Vista installation later on. According to Microsoft this should work (at least I have interpreted their documents that way) but it does not. So in addition to adding them using the peimg /inf command one has to place those drivers in the $WinPEDriver$ folder or add them to the Vista image in another way.

- Microsoft reps told me on an MS forum to add an extra driverpath entry to the "Microsoft-Windows-PnpCustomizationsWinPE" pass of the autounattend.xml. Not only are the credentials used to connect to that folder written in cleartext to the xml, I could not get this to work at all with Vista + SP1. The setupact.log file did not contain any reference to that folder after the installation so I guess it wasn´t even checked. Have not found a solution to this problem although for DVD installations that may work, don´t know yet.

To conclude, a driverpack installer for Vista would probably have to cope with various different situations. There does not seem to be one perfect way to do this for everyone although the $WinPEDriver$ folder is close to that.

Bye,
Alex

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(74 replies, posted in Vista-Tool)

Hi guys,

glad you (mostly) liked the $WinPeDriver$ folder idea. Actually it should even work for massstorage drivers, at least the article by MS suggests this. I did find out today however, that this won´t work for WDS Server deployments (Windows Deployment services). I am just experimenting with this at work right now and it looks great however, the boot image residing on the WDS server (boot.wim - WinPE) obviously needs network drivers and those would have to be injected using the Peimg /inf command.

Maybe a future DP Installer could be used for various scenarious ... WinXP, Vista from DVD, WDS etc.

As for the size issue, Overflow ...

I am not entirely sure that size won´t be an issue for most people. Here in Austria a Dual Layer DVD is still much more expensive compared to a single layer DVD and there is no rewriteable Dual layer technology which is bad for experimants. BlueRay is still very expensive so it may be better to compress drivers as much as possible.

On the other hand, injecting drivers is much less flexible. Once they are in the image you cannot remove them or even update them (at least thats what I heared) so you would have to start with a fresh image all the time.

I guess I am just not sure yet what the best way would be .. :-)

Bye,
Alex

Hi Jaak, Overflow,

thanks ! Looking forward to helping out (hope I have enough time *g*)

Bye,
Alex

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(74 replies, posted in Vista-Tool)

Hi guys,

since I was just "joined" to the Testing Team I would like to kindly ask why you are not simply using the "$WinPEDriver$ folder feature" ? This works with Vista SP1 (not before) and W2K8. I have successfully dropped all drivers for my hardware into this folder on my unattended Vista DVD and they were all used. (There was a problem with Intel massstorage drivers though -> they stopped the unattend process but I am sure that is the exception).

Here is an excerpt from this guide:
http://download.microsoft.com/download/ … deploy.doc



In Windows Vista, the driver injection during Setup depends solely on the Unattend answer file during the WinPE phase of Setup. There is no automatic pulling of drivers from a $OEM$ directory, as existed in Windows XP, due to changes in the Windows Setup model.
However, because many server systems ship without a preinstalled operating system, Windows Server Longhorn requires support to automatically search for predetermined directories on the system to look for drivers. During WinPE the system looks for the directory named $WinPEDriver$ at the root of all visible drivers given a drive letter of C or greater. If this directory exists, the module then adds this path to the list of paths that it maintains to search for driver packages. When this operation is complete, the module continues to scan the answer file, if present, for additional driver paths.
Because of this operation, drives that contain a WinPEDriver$ directory in the root cause Setup to recursively search this directory for driver packages to be imported into the image during the WinPE phase. This includes hard drive partitions and removable media like floppy disk drives and flash drives. Type-27 hidden partitions are assigned a driver letter during the WinPE phase of Setup and are also searched.
Drive letters A and B are not searched during this operation. These drives are considered to be reserved for floppy disk driver media and, due to potential error conditions, are omitted from the search algorithm.
This enables scenarios in which a server system is shipped without an operating system and allows OEMs more flexibility in provisioning boot storage and other drivers to enable Setup on these systems. One potential consequence is a situation in which WinPE cannot access the hard drive that contains the $WinPEDriver$ directory because the storage driver has not yet been loaded in WinPE. This dilemma can be solved in one of the following ways:
•    Boot to a customized WinPE image that already has the storage driver installed.
•    Place drivers on an embedded flash drive that is accessible from WinPE.
•    Place drivers on removable media such as flash or CD Rom. (Floppy disk drives are not supported.)


In my opinion this is MUCH easier compared to injecting drivers into the wim image, and it does not change the image. Whar do you guys think ?

Bye,
Alex

Hi Mr Smartepants !

So how would you get access to the testers group ? I would like to help test driverpacks for Vista if possible. I do have access to quite a few computers since I am working as an IT administrator :-)

Thanks,
Alex

Hi muiz,

the link does not lead anywhere. The time has come for what ? Vista driverpacks ? :-)

Bye,
Alex

Hi !


I don´t quite agree with Helmi when it comes to the benefit of going 64bit with Vista. Ram is sooo cheap these days, 40€ für 2 GB ... and Vista really flies with 8GB RAM for instance since contrary to XP it uses that RAM for its cache. Using Vista with 2 GB RAM should be the minimum requirement for any performance oriented user and even 4 GB cannot be used with 32bit Vista completely so going with 64bit is or will be a reality for lots of people soon.

I would encourage you guys to go 64 bit with the driverpacks, at least when doing the Vista packs, you should be doing both 32 and 64 bit at the same time. (I agree, for 64bit XP you won´t find many drivers).

Also, Microsoft already changed the Logoprogram: any hardware designed for Vista must come with 64 bit drivers otherwise they manufacturer is not allowed to use the Windows logo anymore. That will soon lead to lots of 64bit drivers.

By the way: When will Vista driverpacks be in any kind of "betaphase" ? Any timetable for that ?

Vista SP1 is almost released and driverintegration should be much easier with it since it includes the $WinPeDriver$ folder functionality (Vista will look for that folder in the root of any accessible drive during WinPE phase).

Bye,
Alex

Hi Overflow,

And how many people are running their networks on 2008 beta servers? Shame on them if they are..

I was told that the whole Microsoft domain is already running on IE7 (W2K8) servers :-)


Anyway,

It is up to debate wether SP3 will be a SP or a rollup. even if your are right in your intepretation, microsoft does call it a Servicepack so technically YOU are wrong. However, I agree with you that it is not the most complete SP I have seen :-)

Have a nice day, Overflow ! :-)
Bye,
Alex

Hi Overflow !

IT ain´t true that SP3 is simply a rollup of past patches, otherwise they would call it a rollup patch :-) I can  tell you 2 new features out of my memory that SP3 brings to XP: NAP (Network access protection) with Server 2008 and they removed the need to use a serial to install XP (similar to vista).

I am sure there are more new features but I can´t remember now.

:-) Anyway, no hard feelings, didn´t want to start a war over this. By the way: SP3 is officially Available to the public. You can download the SP3 from numerous sources for instance chip online. However, Overflow is right that there is no support from MS.

Bye,
Alex

@Overflow:

Thanks a lot for your hard work !!!!! Happy X-mas !

Hi Overflow,


I don´t mean any disrespect, just a suggestion:

It may be a good idea to prepare for the launch of SP3 by adding the necessary code a little in advance and play with the SP3 RC1 a little. It is RC1, not beta and I am sure the detection of a new SP will not change that much from RC to RTM.

You guys could put out a beta DP release, so people who do test the SP3 can test it and report feedback prior to the launch of SP3. If you only start working when SP3 is released you won´t have that much time to fix bugs and people might become impatient because they might have slipstreamed SP3 already and won´t have a working DP release to go with it.

Anyway, thanks for your work on the DP´s ....

My personal wish would be a complete DP solution for Vista but that´s far away I guess ... :-)

Bye,
Alex

Hi !

Any news on the status of the driverpacks for Vista project? I could do some betatesting if you guys still need someone. I have finally started creating Vista unattended images for deployment via DVD and WDS and the only thing missing are driverpacks :-)

Have a nice day !
Alex

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(1 replies, posted in DriverPack Mass Storage)

up ?

I am seeing that the DP 7.09 did not contain any changes regarding the jmicron adapter. Is it not possible to restrict loading of the driver to AHCI, RAID modes only ?

Thanks for your help,
Alex

Hi guys,

Got myself a new board, a GA-G33-DS3R with ICH9R southbridge and JMicron controller. The JMicron controller is set to IDE mode so it should (and it does!) work with the standard IDE drivers included in Windows XP and Windows 2003.

However with any of the recent DP massstorage driverpacks integrated in a Windows 2003 or Windows XP setup CD (I tried with both), the jmicron jraid driver is used instead of the atapi driver which results in a BSOD each and everytime I install either Windows XP or Windows 2003 server.

Can you guys limit the use of the jmicron driver to only RAID and AHCI modes of the Jmicron controller and let Windows use the standard ATAPI controller if the jmicron controller is in IDE mode ? PLEASE ? :-)

I have solved the situation now by removing the J folder from the DP masstorage and editing the ini file, removing all occurances of the jraid driver but this is obviously no solution for everyone.

Any hope for a solution in a future pack ?

Thanks,
Alex

PS: Do you need my HWID´s ? I think this would apply to all boards with jmicron controller not only mine so i don´t know if my HWIDs are needed.

@midiboy.  If you do get access to that particular machine, can you retrieve the dpfinisher log and/or the HWIDs.

Hi !

I was able to get the log of the machine where the Nvidia driver did not get installed properly on an GF8600. That was on August 7th so the bug may have been resolved already in a more recent test driverpack.

Do you guys still need it ? If yes, where should I upload it ? It is too big to post it in the forum directly.

Bye,
Alex

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(2 replies, posted in Feedback and Support - DriverPacks Base)

ok, thanks for the info

Hi everyone!

I was looking through the forum but did not come up with a definite answer yet. Do the driverpacks currently work with 64bit XP/2003 installations ? Guess not though I do see the occasional 64bit driver file in the packs from time to time ...

Any idea when 64bit driverpacks will be coming ? (and vista packs too by the way) ...

Thanks,
midiboy

Hi !

One comment towards the Graphics_A 7.07test3 build. I recently integrated this version for a Windows XP install CD for a friend of mine who had built a new PC using a GF 8600 card. He now told me that the videocard drivers were installed but the card was marked with a yellow exclamation mark afterwards in the device manager. A reinstall of the driver solved the problem.

Unfortunately I do not have any access to the system and I also don´t have any logs, nor do I have an NVIDIA card to test it with but I thought I´d let you know ...

Thanks !
Alex

Hi !

There are new drivers available for the

RR2320:
http://www.highpoint-tech.com/BIOS_Driv … 070207.zip



also you may add support for the 1740 SATA PCI controller:
http://www.highpoint-tech.com/BIOS_Driv … 2-0201.zip

or the 1720 SATA PCI controller:
http://www.highpoint-tech.com/BIOS_Driv … 061207.zip

Don´t know if you want to add more Highpoint controllers ? Here´s a list of drivers for all controllers:

http://www.highpoint-tech.com/USA/bios.htm

Thanks,
Alex

Hi !

Would it be possible to integrate the ATI HDMI audio driver in one of the next audiopacks ? Currently it is not available for download but all buyers of ATI 2400/2600 video cards have them on the CD that is packed with the card. I could upload it for you if you wish.

Thanks,
Alex

PS: For info: the new ATI video cards have a  soundcard on board.

edit:

actually I did find the HDMI Audio driver online:
http://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/xp/hdmiaudio-xp.html

Greetings!

Hi !

Issue is solved in DP 7.06.1 ! Thanks guys for your help !

Alex

Hi!

Tested with a Desktop Geforce 7600GT with no errors. :-)

Thanks,
Alex