1,376 Reply by OverFlow

(8 replies, posted in Installation Platforms)

Thanks rthsw, Well said...
However this info IS posted dozens of times and I HATE repeating myself wink
No malice or flame intended, it is simple aggravation.
The reference to the rules and my personal warning preceded that response.
This is not now, nor has it been in the past, a Noob friendly site wink.
You did not use search, you did not read the stickies and you did not read the FAQs or rules.
You are not familiar with the info contained at MSFN.org (rules). (MSFN IS a noob friendly site)
You did not read "how to ask questions the smart way" (rules).

This thread should help others as it has helped you big_smile.
You have added new key words to the search and the response should help to clarify for you and others what does and does not work and how.

Welcome to DriverPacks.

Have a great day

PS ANYTHING is possable... It is just that not everything is worth the effort. wink

PSS Lets get things straight

rthsw wrote:

Hi Overflow, at least the Question was simple: ist it possible to make the behavior of XP workin on CD also working on USB.

THAT IS NOT EVEN CLOSE TO THE QUESTION YOU ASKED!

rthsw wrote:

Hi, ist SAD meaning something like: There is no way? I would also like to use an 8 Gb USB-Stick fpr this great collection, but got the same problem as am632.

I Mean: I would like to copy the complete collection on an 8 Gb USB Stick, put it in, and XP searches the drivers on this, like it would do on a CD/DVD.

THE ORIGINAL QUESTION WAS "How can i easily install drivers which are stored on a usb drive?"
(you clearly indicated you had the SAME problem - now you change your tune and say it is not the same problem wink)

Please note "the behavior of XP workin on CD also working on USB" is a TOTALLY DIFFERENT question! and not the one you originally asked big_smile. especially considering the original question of this thread which was How can i easily install drivers which are stored on a usb drive?

rthsw wrote:

By the Way: "Can i use the Driverpack on USB like i would use a CD" isn't in the FAQ.

And it never will be... "Can you force XP to treat a USB stick like an ODD for the windows update driver wizard'  is a stupid question.
Especially when you consider that DriverPacks.net ONLY SUPPORTS UNATTENDED INSTALLS.
(This is not stated in the rules, but it is well known - take a look in Feature Requests - hundreds of times this is stated)
Your question is clearly related to ATTENDED INSTALLATION. WE DON'T SUPPORT ATTENDED INSTALLS!!! PERIOD...
READ THE FREAKING FORUM!  GET LOST PUNK! (smart off again and your banned)

rthsw wrote:

By the Way 2: Cobra did just pack all of your Driver packs together, so the download is simpler. He (They) never selled this as their own work (so far as i know). In fact i found your page because of this packet. He will not steal your Honor or Money or Time, he just reduce your Transfervolume.

The mere fact you found him instead of us makes my point... and wins me the game. touchdown!!!

He failed to credit us that is theft and he is guilty of All of the above. taking credit for our work. how can we receive our Honor if he does not credit us? and potentially our money how do we get a donation if people do not know where the work came from? We have unlimited bandwidth from simple CDN, we want as many downloads as we can get, if they are getting our packs elsewhere then we do not know how much use we really do have, and we want to know. so he is stealing our ability to keep accurate statistics too. He is a thief / pirate... period.

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1,377 Reply by OverFlow

(54 replies, posted in Feedback and Support - DriverPacks Base)

do you see the drivers being extracted during setup?

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1,378 Reply by OverFlow

(8 replies, posted in Installation Platforms)

so you created a SAD folder on your USB stick and ran DP_Inst_Tool.cmd and your drivers were not installed?
I find that hard to belive...

It does NOT "only" work with the main DriverPacks...
Add or substitute your own pack if you want...
No it is NOT limited in any way..
Why do you think i wrote a script instead of an executable???
No you don't "install" anything... (it creates a folder)
No you don't have to put it on your HDD.

NO SAD DOES NOT LEAVE ANYTHING ON THE HDD - AT ALL!

If you were to use M1 you may simply add your own driver folders to the existing structure
IE create SAD M1, with only CPU pack to get the folder structure set up correctly.
then just put whatever you want in the \D\ folder... Not real hard to do...
IE  I Couldn't make it any easier... unless I personally visit your house and do it for you. (Need your nose wiped too?)
AND THAT QUESTION HAS BEEN ASKED AND ANSWERED FIFTY TIMES ON THIS FORUM. STFF!!
Don't try to tell me you searched when you can't even find a sticky in the FAQ section of the site.
Nor find info asked and answered dozens of times.
Where does it say anything about ONLY WORKS WITH???

Since we already have every driver known... adding your own should not ever be necessary wink.

Yes you are correct update device driver wizard will not search a USB stick.
IF it did i would not have written SAD wink

Windows actually will search a USB device... IF: you extract everything to your stick... 
and then populate /add the DevPath registry key on the target machine.
(and then of course remove the additional DevPath entries from the registry after you are done)

YES YOU CAN DUPLICATE ODD BEHAVIOR... IT IS JUST A LAME WAY TO GO  
that is why you can't find any info on it, anybody who could do it, would not do that!

How to duplicate ODD (Optical Disc Drive, a DVD or CD ROM device) behavior. Further hand holding... That is "ODD" not "odd" sad
copy the name of every driver folder on the stick to the DevPath Registry entry.
IE Memory stick is E: drive  and drivers are E:\driver1 E:\driver2 etc...
then add %SystemRoot%\Inf;E:\driver1;E:\driver2;etc...

SAD / DP_inst_tool.cmd does all this automatically

The DP_inst_tool.cmd will update all the drivers
instead of having to update each device one at time manually. What a waste of time!
So it's 1000 times better. And the drivers are kept compressed in the packs to save space (about a gig of it), that is unless you do M1.

I really don't see any reason to go to device manager and update devices one at a time.
even if you install a device and the driver is on an ODD you still have to manually go through all the dialogs to tell it to search the removable media. What a PITA
So in that respect DevPath is an upgrade because the drivers will be in the default search path... (yo don't have to go through all the steps to select "Search removable media")

If you insist that it is a good idea to do all his manually, then Either
-Extract all the packs to a DVD
-Or populate the DevPath registry value with all the paths on your USB stick. then they will be included in a default update driver search... then you have to remove the values from your registry key.

Again running DP_inst_tool is easier and it will also run the DriverPacks Finisher which will determine if any control panels or setup programs are required and then run them if so. (10,000 times better)

Cobra? those Russian guys sure like to steal our work and pass it off as their own. sad
Question... Where did you download the Cobra disk to? I bet it was your HDD... So what was the difference again? NONE.
Except our downloads were ten times faster. (BTW you obviously do not know the difference between an installer and self extracting archive.)
If you respond with "well it has a GUI", then I am going to ban you for not visiting the software forum and finding one of our recognized affiliates who do credit us properly in their applications... (failure to STFF)

If U think any of this is harsh then you did not read the rules and posting guidelines (either).
You agreed that you did read an understand them when you signed up http://forum.driverpacks.net/misc.php?action=rules
If i had not already assigned you a demerit would give you a second one.
failure to search for the key word DevPath will get you banned.
If you expect us to spend our time supporting you then you can demonstrate you tried to help yourself before you asked...
Same thing goes for making blatantly false statements about how things work.
(Had i not seen at least a hint that you had tried then i would not have responded at all)

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1,379 Reply by OverFlow

(10 replies, posted in Software)

I am pretty sure our Guide / tutorial says quite clearly

"NEVER EVER use nLite to add drivers"

Silly boy!

Glad you fixed it

PS two things to do here:
Create your own 3rd party DriverPack
Submit your missing driver to us so we can include it!

Make that three, check to see if we have a 3rd party DriverPack that already includes your missing driver.

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1,380 Reply by OverFlow

(8 replies, posted in Installation Platforms)

FAQ... SAD

Index » Frequently Asked Questions » SAD (Stand Alone Drivers) disc
- A DriverPacks Drivers Only CD / DVD guide
- - - by OverFlow - - -
http://forum.driverpacks.net/viewtopic.php?id=2264

Per our rules and posting guielines...
Demerit awarded...  - failure to STFF big_smile tongue wink
It's stickied in the "Frequently Asked Questions" for goodness sakes!

PS I guess it might be a good idea to add USB to that threads title, I suppose

PSS the answer was "SAD" not "Sad".
Huge difference, SAD makes us happy! LOL wink

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1,381 Reply by OverFlow

(10 replies, posted in Universal Imaging)

wont there need to be two merge files... one for each platform ?

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1,382 Reply by OverFlow

(4 replies, posted in Universal Imaging)

you should really read the threads in this forum...
KTD is not the way to go, SAD is a much better option if you wish to go that way - against our recommendations.

While it is true you can use base to add mass storage successfully,
and KTD will do at least chipset successfully,
the rest of the drivers are/can be problematic.

OLSP is designed for SysPrep and address's certain issues that only arise in SysPrep,
DriverPacks BASE is designed to slipstream for disc installs.
DriverPacks BASE can also make a proper plugin to use with BartPE. (because a DriverPacks slipstreamed source doesn't work for PE either)
Use the correct tool for the job wink
(It is being suggested that you don't use pliers to replace a light bulb.
We can't / won't stop you, and you may even succeed... eventually wink)

RIS, Disk, and SysPrep are much more different than MS will readily admit tongue.

the threads in this forum are the cumulative knowledge of five years of experience...
Just about anything you can think of to ask us... has already been answered, multiple times.
Read the stickies and recently updated threads, as per our rules and posting guidelines failure to search will earn you a demerit wink tongue big_smile.

read then ask. (Yes you are missing a lot)
- You're not wrong, it's just that "Theory is different than application" wink.

We are offering you the opportunity to not repeat the mistakes already made by many others big_smile!

PS No you dont have to bsmd with a DriverPacks slipstreamed source... but... were you listening? Clean source + OLSP
PSS OLSP uses our DriverPack MassStorage, more specifically it uses the output of my DriverPack MassStorage BartPE plugin.
- Dont fix your watch with a hammer.

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1,383 Reply by OverFlow

(10 replies, posted in Software)

does the keyboard work for BIOS setup or f8 / safemode?
IE if the MB does not recognize it first then it is not a windows issue, It's a hardware / BIOS issue  big_smile.

One trip thru safemode may be all that is neccessary (rather than a reload). Assuming the MB sees it.

I agree with mr_s that nLite may be the culprit... if it is not a hardware issue.

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1,384 Reply by OverFlow

(3 replies, posted in Hardware)

If you have posted here and not used the DriverPacks at all then a second demerit is in order.
If you have slipstreamed DriverPacks but posted before you tested it then the existing demerit was properly assigned.

it is only appropriate to post after a device is not found after using a DriverPacks slipstreamed source big_smile.
That post should include the HWIDs and a link to the tested known good driver, that will get you our respect and a Thank You!

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1,385 Reply by OverFlow

(6 replies, posted in Other)

Does it exibit this behaviour in Safe Mode?

on most OEM (in your case HP) vista installs there is a restore partition... does it still have this behavior in the restore GUI?
The restore GUI is a separate OS (WinPE)

if it exibits this behavior in WinPE (restore GUI) then it is not a software issue but a hardware issue... that is to say your touch pad itself is shot.

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1,386 Reply by OverFlow

(2 replies, posted in DriverPack Sound)

That is in the works... wink
Wim has a plan that we will be able to plug in a HWID and the site will return all packs that contain it... It has been a topic of discussion between Wim and myself for about a year, We both need the time to implement it, we already have the outline in our heads and the site is already setup to be able to do so.

big_smile Great minds think alike - Good thinking wink

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1,387 Reply by OverFlow

(74 replies, posted in BartPE - UBCD4Win - WinPE)

Related: http://forum.driverpacks.net/viewtopic.php?id=4427

dpdt38  wrote:

Hello.

I'm new on this forum and i need some help.

I'm trying to work with BartPE and DriverPacks.

I have no problems with DriverPacks integration.

I have an network card HP NC7760 Gigabit Server Adapter Device ID:PCI\VEN_14E4&DEV_16A6&SUBSYS_00BB0E11&REV_02\3&267A616A&0&20, on Windows 2003 server, with "q57xp32.sys".

With BartPe, this card is shown (in "Device manager clone") as "BCM 5703 Gigabit Ethernet" and need "b57xp32.sys" when i try to update driver manually.

My problem seems to be like as http://forum.driverpacks.net/viewtopic.php?id=1452

I have tried, without success RIS driver.

Can someone help me ?

Thanks for your help.

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1,388 Reply by OverFlow

(1 replies, posted in BartPE - UBCD4Win - WinPE)

Welcome to DriverPacks, Excellent first post! Good details and you used search... wow!

You should probably have just added your post in this related thread.
http://forum.driverpacks.net/viewtopic.php?id=4247
I'm going to cut and paste that post into the other thread and then link back to here for you

Please read through that and see if you have anything to add big_smile.


Have an awesome day!

Jeff

Moved to BartPE forum

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1,389 Reply by OverFlow

(28 replies, posted in DriverPack Mass Storage)

Well that expains it two devices with same name but are different drivers... and neither is signed...

OLSP will elimiate that issue...
Actually, I solve it with my BartPE plugin code...
But OLSP uses the output of my BartPE Plugin as a source...

Try it you'll like it wink - OLSP is so good it was the reason i gave up adding SysPrep as a platform for DriverPacks BASE wink.

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1,390 Reply by OverFlow

(74 replies, posted in BartPE - UBCD4Win - WinPE)

@Erik see post 35 by cdob wink

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1,391 Reply by OverFlow

(26 replies, posted in BartPE - UBCD4Win - WinPE)

Did someone say Solved!!!! woo hoo! Go Team!

However we still have a related bug here http://forum.driverpacks.net/viewtopic.php?id=4247

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1,392 Reply by OverFlow

(28 replies, posted in DriverPack Mass Storage)

try spliting that list in half,  and then half again, etc perhaps we can narow it down further... are you testing on a machine that has more than one of those HWIds present?

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1,393 Reply by OverFlow

(74 replies, posted in BartPE - UBCD4Win - WinPE)

http://forum.driverpacks.net/viewtopic. … 054#p37054

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1,394 Reply by OverFlow

(28 replies, posted in DriverPack Mass Storage)

no that really helps it proves a conflict between I1 and I2... Have you ever tried OLSP?
I am workign on DriverPacks BASE ATM but we need to check the changelogs for the last few versions

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1,395 Reply by OverFlow

(4 replies, posted in DriverPack LAN)

Use DriverPacks BASE to create a SAD M2 folder and run DP_Inst_Tool.cmd wink (check the FAQs)

Or reinstall with a DriverPacks slipstreamed source (tutorial DP BASE linked in our signatures)

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1,396 Reply by OverFlow

(28 replies, posted in DriverPack Mass Storage)

Cool that narrows it down a bunch!!! so all we have to do is compare i1 and i2 to version 906n2 and see what changed!

That was a HUGE help!!!

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1,397 Reply by OverFlow

(5 replies, posted in Feedback and Support - DriverPacks Base)

Well you don't have to beat yourself to death reading it... if it is not clear ask big_smile.

The point is that you demonstrate you did read it before you ask wink.

I have never had a question about how it works from someone who had read it LOL.
#1 its pretty easy. #2 the tutorial is comprehensive.
If after you read it you don't understand something that would give us the opportunity to improve the tutorial wink.

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1,398 Reply by OverFlow

(5 replies, posted in Feedback and Support - DriverPacks Base)

Thank you for being so polite...  We will see... being polite buys you some lattitude, however... 

allow me to post an excerpt from the rules that you agreed that you had read and understood when you signed up...

Posting Guidelines


How To Ask Questions The Smart Way is a good read for any user, especialy if you think any of the following is harsh. 

Although quite easy to use, the DriverPacks and the accompanying software form a toolset that is designed for use by advanced level users. 
If you have not used the search feature of this forum, or Google. AKA, STFW
If you do not include basic details (See rule #0)
If you have not read the FAQ's or documentation, the BartPE Tutorial or DP_Base Tutorial
If you did not include your HWID's or DPs_BASE.log in your post

If you create a post that says "I am looking for a driver for"
   (Especially if you have not used the DriverPacks at all.)

Then your welcome here may not be as warm and fuzzy as you might like. 
    The above mistakes are considered Noob like behaviors...
    We are not and have never been a noob friendly site.
    - Note to Newbies:
        The label Noob is not assigned based on a percieved level of experience,
        but rather for showing a lack of resourcefulness, (Did you try to help yourself?)
        or failing to demonstrate some effort was made to help us to help you. (omission of key details)
    You are expected to already be familiar with everything in this guide.
    http://unattended.msfn.org/unattended.xp/
    If you ask a question that is covered in that manual then you will receive a demerit. 

If you will expect us to take our personal time to support you, then we can likewise expect:
a) You will take a minute to include good details in your post.
b) You will have already read our documentation and tutorials.

If one of the team seems to have been short with you...
Perhaps you should make sure you have been respectful / appreciative.
We are working for free.

You are already in demerit territory - although you have been respectful / appreciative. wink.

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1,399 Reply by OverFlow

(5 replies, posted in Feedback and Support - DriverPacks Base)

yup... link in signature (DP_BASE tutorial)
It is available from our home page too the box marked "Docs" tongue wink
Please take a moment to look around before posting. sad

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1,400 Reply by OverFlow

(3 replies, posted in Feedback and Support - DriverPacks Base)

I was able to duplicate this issue with DriverPacks BASE 8.12.5 M2 with only DriverPack Chipset selected...

Here is the deal... if you update a pack or if you hit refresh DriverPacks BASE assumes something has changed.
BASE believes you have updated or changed the DriverPacks, and resets all the selections to none.
this is a direct result of the function that finds the latest versions and is intentional.
IE what if you update 8.12 to 9.01...
If the selections were not reset then 8.12 would still be selected for slipstream.
So if you update or hit refresh the DriverPacks selections are reset to none and then you must reselect the packs you desire.

In all versions of DriverPacks BASE newer than 8.12.x (there has been about 6 versions since then)
the update checker is the second screen instead of the second to last last screen.
So since in all newer versions the update screen is before the DriverPacks selection screen and even before you select the Platform that you want...
That should avoid any confusion / issues - Especially once one of the newer versions is released to the public.

the order for all versions newer than 8.12.5 is
Start
UpdateChecker
Settings
- location
- DriverPacks
- DriverPacks method
- finisher method
Optional settings
- ...
Overview
About

Thanks for reporting

Jeff

PS with previous versions you can easily navigate to the UpdateChecker first simply by selecting / clicking on it in the navigation tree on the left wink.

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