I'm checking this out now.

First look is nice, we'll see how useful it is  wink

buletov wrote:

When using QuickStream Cache the problem is gone! smile

Then you should definately do that wink

I do not see a reson not to use QSC, btw.
If you use the BASE again, this will greatly speed up your slipstreaming process and you lose nothing by it (ok, maybe a tiny little bit of HDD space, but c'mon!).

Thanks, OverFlow.

I considered this obvious since it's the ususal way on how to apply the DriverPacks, but this should definately deal with any unclear items wink

Alright, I got the file.
After I stripped the .NET FW (both 32 and 64bit version), lcalization files and 64bit drivers, the newly-packed 7-zip file weights in a mere 15MB!
That's a good 88% space saved.

I'll upload it now, editing in the link once it's done...

EDIT: Here it is!
http://www.esnips.com/doc/02e9ba5a-d541 … f/HCA16C1W

I know it sounds rather unrelated, but have you checked for any dust in your case and verified the ariflow is good?

I've had several cases where BSODs (dunno if it was the IRQ !<= error, but that seems the most common, and I don't get any very often) could be traced to that, so it's definately worth a look.
Also check CPU/mobo temp and voltages.

You never know, esp. if it presumably was working fine before in the same constellation!

781

(6 replies, posted in DriverPack Sound)

HWIDs, please (look at my fabulous sig wink).

And MOVED to DriverPack Sound A

Jig wrote:

That would still mean the base Windows XP CD, including lots of OEM stuff, has to be updated and refreshed.

No.

Seriously, just create a CD/DVD (including alll your OEM stuff and the DriverPacks) now, if you haven't already.

Then, when you need new drivers, use that disc (or the folder you used for your source if you didn't delete it after ISO creation) and simply slipstream the DriverPacks into it again, just as if you had not done that before.
It will detect and remove the old ones, replacing them with the updated driver files.

As DriverPacks slipstreaming is the last step before ISO creation, none of your OEM settings will be touched and don't have to, either.
Just create a new ISO, re-use the old disc (if RW) and there you go.

Whether you use OEM stuff or not is not relevant in this case (unless I am missing something).

Now, I know I am sounding a bit penetrant and I certainly don't want to talk you into something you do not want.
However, I want to make sure you realize this before clinching on solutions in search of a problem.
IMO, all that efford is not needed if you follow my simple and time-saving steps.

Now, I certainly do not know how it is handled at your work and your boss may require certain protocols and whatnot, so please excuse if I'm omitting that.

This is just a "here's how I would do it" advise smile

Oh yes, it certainly should not!

That's pretty bad of any programme to change file extensions without user consent.
As Windows OSs reckognize files only by their extensions, these are vital to any proper functuinality (while some multi-media files can be played regardless of a proper extension this is only because of "bad" (although it may help in this case) programming of the application wink).

Once you have changed them back (you could run a script for the task but it's not that many files wink), you should use 7-zip to test all the archives to verify Orbit didn't mess with them in another case (mayb writing ZIP headers?!).

GL!

mr_smartepants wrote:

I'm working on the Graphics_A DP using the latest Catalyst 7.7 drivers.  But the new mobility chipsets won't be supported unless we get those HWIDs.
smile

Unfortunately, I won't be able to upload any test packs until I get back from my business trip.
sad
Busy, busy, busy!

Nice to hear and eagerly awaiting!

Just do take your time, no one wants rushed releases wink

*Edit,
I just noticed the driver linked in the first post is over 130MB!!  hmm  I can't download something that size on my crappy connection.

Want me to take a look at it and extract any necessary files (knowing Acer they probabaly added a lot of useless stuff - I've found DirectX components and Acrobat Reader in their archives *argh*)?


EDIT:
DLing now but at a slow, capped 50KB/s.
Darn their FTP!
45min to go...

785

(4 replies, posted in DriverPack WLAN)

Links, please.

Help us help you, eh? wink

Good ole Notepad does splendid job for me ususally.

Using Notepad 2 or Notepad++ if the file become a bit too big for the MS programme to handle, though...

Just mind the encoding options...

Jig wrote:

We're talking about an international install base here. I can't have different installs in different countries, one having the latest Windows updates while the other doesn't. And refreshing the Windows install CD would cost a lot of time and money and would result in multiple versions of install CD's floating around.

Hmm, I can see your point.
You may thank MS for not properly implementing true multi-language support.

I've heared it works well with Vista, though, finally patches and updated are language-independant.
You can also add different installation languages to your DVD and select those on install.
Apparently, all quite convenient, but unfortunately, it won't help you much in your current situation, I wager... hmm

The only thing that MUST be updated are the drivers because a new system will have to be chosen every 3 months so separating that would be ideal.

Well, if this helps you any, you will not have to create a brand-new source each time.
If you slipstream the DriverPacks into an already existing source (in which you already integrated the DriverPacks), it will detect them, restore any previous changes and reapply from start.

As well as new.

While it is generally not recommended to reuse a source, I don't see a problem with it in this case and as long as you aren't trouble-shooting you should be fine.
As you cannot and will not be touching it (again) with nLite, this is also one issue less to worry about.

And, frankly, just slipstreaming the drivers and creating a new ISO is about 10min work on a modern system.
Add some 5min burning with a common burner and those 15min of work each quarter doesn't look too bad, now does it?

I have to admit, I am totally with OverFlow on this one.
Create your new disc when you need it, and include all the stuff up-to-date on that day.

MS patches aren't realeased more frequently than monthly (which is a good pace to create new discs, also, using re-writable media you save a lot of money anyway) and mostly (unless there's a serious bug) DriverPacks are updated in the same way.

Jig wrote:

In my situation it is impossible to update Windows in anyway. The installed systems are not to be connected to the internet.

Does that equal that (security) patches from MS are not to be applied, too?
Of course, the internet security ones are probabaly not required in this case, however, there are some related to LANs and productivity and you may want to get these, internet access or not.

The Windows XP disk stays as it is for at least a year or so, we cannot update that disk every month.

Why not?
Simple question, really.
Just keep a copy of the disc's content on your HDD and work from that.
I certainly am not going to pull out my XP disc each time I am going to create a new one.
Takes way too long to copy the files and is inconvenient.
That way, you can keep the disc in the safe (or wherever) and it won't get scratched.

It would mean that the already installed systems would need to be brought up to date manually.

Why is that?
You said they don't have inet access.
Are you hence using WSUS for the task?
If not, it's certainly a matter of doing it manually or not doing it at all.

Updating the drivers is already a pain in the ass, resulting in the driver cd.

I may be getting this totally wrong but let me give you this old admin saying:
"Never change a running system!"
Why bother with driver updates at all when the machines are up and running?

Granted, I do update my GFX drivers every so often, but purely because of gaming.
If it weren't for that (and I take it yours are office machines?), I wouldn't update any drivers as long as all devices are running satisfactory.
Only if the machine had to e reinstalled I'd use a disc with updated drivers (although that may break some stuff that worked before hmm)

This reads more like a PR report than a problem describtion wink

In any case, I will move it to the appropriate forum...


Also, the driver is already included I presume, however the INF is missing the HWID entries.
Use the tool from my sig to gather them, then post 'em here.

790

(33 replies, posted in Other)

The drivers are being installed during the fake setup phase (if you're using M2), that's right after you've seen the extraction status bars.
The Finisher installs any needed (as in the HW for them is present) GUIs, control panels etc, everything driver-related that is not a driver itself (so anything but INFs or SYSs).

What does help you in this very case is the KTD (which is applied by the Finisher), namely by indexing all the kept driver files so Windows can readily use them as it is being made aware of (otherwise it would be the same as if the driver files would sit in an arbitrary folder - drivers won't get picked up and installed automatically as you probabaly know wink).
It creates the PNF files that make Windows access/scan the folders for drivers for your current HW setup.
Just as it does check in the driverc.CAB, on WIndowsupdate.com or the %SOURCE% when you install new, unknown HW.

791

(28 replies, posted in News)

Bâshrat the Sneaky wrote:

It looks at the IP... if your IP changes, you can vote again. More security than that is not feasible.

I was thinking along cookies as some other voting sites do, but I agree that it is not of any real importance here.

And it wouldn't have been smarter to not show the creator of the slogan, since they would just have told their friends which slogan to vote on...

Right you are.

I was just reverring to the ususal forum goers who would want to have his vote not influenced by the name (it's sub-conscious and all...).
Of course, you could just look it up on this page if you wanted to know sooo badly wink

792

(28 replies, posted in News)

Bâshrat the Sneaky wrote:

It seems muiz is calling in all his friends. His first slogan was running 5th in the poll this morning, now it has more than 40 additional votes and is by FAR 1st.

Perhaps the others should call in the help of their friends too? smile

Maybe, just maybe, it would have been smarter not to tell which slogan is by whom on the voting page (only on results) so folks can vote simply based on the slogan rather than its creator wink

In any case, it seems you can send multiple vots somehow.
Is this deliberate or an oversight?

Alright then.
Didn't mean to say you didn't try again, just pointing out in general, because there's always folks who will panic on the first time something doesn't work as planned wink

If you just want the *.LNG file, you can simply take it from the BASE.
It can be found in the \lng subfolder.

Just open it with an editor of your choice (notepad works fine).

Works for me, testing the archive revealed no errors.

I wager to bet it just wasn't completely uploaded when you tried to DL it wink

That's ususally the case when the file size is shown correctly on the DL, however, you are unable to get 100% of it.

In any case, please try at least thrice before posting about such problems, most of the time they will vanish without any further ado smile

796

(6 replies, posted in Hardware)

Nice database!

Could come in quite handy, hence stickied smile

797

(5 replies, posted in Hardware)

jimbo45 wrote:

Another Good reason for partitioning is that you can separate your OS from the data. This means you can restore your OS from an image such as GHOST or Acronis without having to restore all your applications again (plus all the updates, fixes, service packs etc). Your data on separate partitions remains untouched.

Totally agreed and supported, however, I cannot see the sole advantage in using a different partition for this as opposed to using a second HDD (apart from saving the costs, obviously).

Also, does not save you from a borked partition table if bad comes to worse (unless you created a regular image of the data files, too).

OverFlow wrote:

looks like it might be like the raid / non raid thing again
or just a duplicate?

Yeah, but without the ususal different HWIDs for each case...

I wish HW manufacturers would put more efford into the IDs.
It can't be that hard to manage that properly, especially since they already re given unique manufacturer IDs in the first place!

hmm

Despite the garbled characters, did the installation still run successfully (provided you figured out when to press what key regardless)?
If so, did any driver get installed that would not have had you not used the DriverPacks?

Second question, the three files in your source,
\I386\winnt.sif
\I386\txtsetup.sif
\I386\dosnet.inf,
what coding are they in (ANSI, Unicode, UTF)?
Can you read them properly or are those "Matrix characters" in there, too?

jimbo45 wrote:

Hopefully I'm not stating the obvious here [...]

Well, kind of, however, there's always those around who do not know yet wink

Of course the SP2 is a vital component, especially on a system featuring HDA sound.
For that, you will need the HDA hotfix (KB888111), which is provided by the DriverPacks (if you don't have it already through one of the numerous Update Packs, which also will provide you with all post-SP2 updates, very handy stuff in any case!).
The hotfix cannot (or rather should not, I never dared to try) be applied on a pre-SP2 system so that is one thing requiring it already.

SATA drives (I think AHCI functionality actually) is another issues.

In any case, if you are going to create your own XPCD (hence not using the original pressed shiny hologram copy wink) by slipstreaming the DriverPacks, it only seems reasonable to include all those numerous Windows updates on the disc as well, esp seeing as DLing them after installation is some ~400MB plus countless restarts.

It's only foolish not to do so and I cannot state one single reason why you would not want that.

For any English copies of XP, your source of choice for this is http://www.ryanvm.net/msfn/ , btw smile