Yeah, I think a direct link to the 3rd party DriverPack forum from the main page would be a good idea, preferably in the list of DriverPacks.
Firstly, they are only semi-unofficial, since, as Jaak has already pointed out, I think every member of the Team contributed to one pack or another.
And secondly, they cover a lot of also important stuff that the official ones don't so you may be missing out a lot if you do not use them because you don't know about them.

Not everyone uses MSN, plus it's proprietary.
Jabber would probably be the better protocol, IMO.

I think we (the team members) do have some Google groups stuff going thanks to the @driverpacks.net email addresses which are powered by gmail.
I haven't really used/looked into that, though.

If anything, I am idling in ICQ once and again (old time inet user as well as ICQ - there was not much else around back then and I really don't feel like ever switching. I did dump that bloody ICQ client, though and am using Miranda on Windows and Pidgin on Linux. Yes, I know I could also use MSN through that but I really don't feel like having to remember another login data set tongue Anyway, my contacts should be in my profile. I you want me to authorize you, make sure I know who it i´s or you will be denied!)

OverFlow wrote:

the eleventh pack is the third party driverpacks...

Looks quite like it...
http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/6967/11dpsph6.png

If you wish to (and have enough space left on the disc), you can safely go ahead and also include the rest of the 3rd party DriverPack.
Does no harm but provides a lot of drivers in case you may need them. smile

They are only unofficial because we do not maintain them as closely as we do with the official ones.
They also do not include instructions for the Finisher (but they could, if added) and are mostly contributed to by the community rather than team members (although others as well as me have done quite some additions already).

Just FYI wink

maier64 wrote:

Thank you for replying so fast.

My pleasure.
Just happened to be on the forum when you posted, I guess wink

In my winnt.sif is that already included, it happens nevertheless.

Then it might indeed be the bug you were talking about.
In this case, I would really suggest giving SP3 a try - the latest BASE beta version is already optimized for it!
You can find it here: http://forum.driverpacks.net/viewtopic.php?id=2332

I try the Monitor DP, but that take some time.

Ususally, you can simply reslip the DriverPacks into an already DPed source.
The old driver will be removed and then reslipstreamed.
So it only takes that plus rebuilding the ISO and burning wink

BTW, where can I find those 3rd Party DP ?

If you scroll down the main forum page, you will find it near the bottom.

http://forum.driverpacks.net/viewforum.php?id=13

maier64 wrote:

See links below for discussion, MS KB article and download on HP webpage that contains fix needed. HP archive needs to be extracted with some installshield decompiler like i6comp020.zip. Could this fix be integrated to DP like HD audio support?

I don't see any links?!

Anyway, yes, the Driver Signing Policy is a real pain in the arse if you are using unsigned drivers.
The problem here is a) not every manufacturer offers signed drivers and b) that Windows will always pick a singed driver over an unsigned one, even if it is (way) older.
So, if there is a signed driver supplied with Windows (as found on the RTM disc) but the DriverPacks deliver a newer (presumably better) unsigned driver, then Win will still pick the old one.

The solution here is to simply disable Driver Signing Policy in the winnt.SIF by setting the entry under

[Unattended]
DriverSigningPolicy=Ignore
NonDriverSigningPolicy=Ignore

.

That way, Win will pick whichever driver is newer regardless of signed status.

Not sure if this really fixes this very problem, though.
You speak of a bug in SP2, I have not heared of this before (not saying it doesn't exist, just didn't come across it yet).
You could also try to go ahead and use SP3, seeing as the final is already out (albeit inofficially, check thehotfixshare.net). Might fix that bug if it's a known one.

Thirdly, we offer a Monitor DP as a 3rd party DriverPack.
It contains quite a lot of monitor drivers, maybe your is included.
That should eliminate the need for an online search.

midiboy wrote:

I don´t quite agree with Helmi when it comes to the benefit of going 64bit with Vista. Ram is sooo cheap these days, 40€ für 2 GB ... and Vista really flies with 8GB RAM for instance since contrary to XP it uses that RAM for its cache. Using Vista with 2 GB RAM should be the minimum requirement for any performance oriented user and even 4 GB cannot be used with 32bit Vista completely so going with 64bit is or will be a reality for lots of people soon.

While I agree with the fact that Vista simply is no fun with less than 2GB of RAM, the question remains whether the average user actually needs more than 4GB of that right now.
Sure, you can go ahead and buy it while it's cheap but if you still don't use it, it's wasted money.
Also, the number of RAM slots is limited on most motherboards, so you may actually want to pick up the largest modules possible so you can keep free slots for future upgrades - however, these sticks are ususally rather expensive.
Also, DDR-3 is around the corner, the question remains when it will have its finaly break-trough.
Investing in a lot of DDR-2 now may be a wrong choice in the long run.

Anyway, if you are using Vista, you aren't using the DriverPacks anyway, so you may just go 64bit regardless wink

As for caching, what makes you think XP does not use the RAM for that?
What else does it use the RAM for, then?

Also, I'd like to re-state that I do not oppose 64bit architechtures in general.
In fact, I would have loved to see MS release Vista as 64bit only (generally, the CPU required to run it properly also does support 64bit instructions already).
It's just that currently, I see little gains in 64bit and huge drawbacks because of compatibility.
Also, AFAIK the 64bit version of Vista does not let you use unsigned drivers anymore (or so I've read).
That's another plus for the 32bit edition in my book (which still allows non-WHQL drivers!).

Satellite broadband probably does require a fixed proxy to work (from what I've heared/read, never had that myself) so that may be your problem.
Maybe check with your ISP.

Do you have any proxy set up in IE settings?
Does it require you to run a tool/programme to dial in?
98 doesn't have native BB support anyway so you'd at least need a PPoE driver or somesuch, IIRC.

No, you will require specific 64bit drivers.
You cannot use the 32bit ones.

Either your HW manufacturer supplies those drivers (pretty certain that is the case for nVidia's Forceware) or you are out of luck.
The latter is precisely the reason why most folks have not yet emerged to 64bit.
Usually, you cannot find updated (to 64bit) drivers for older HW, so the devices will simply not work.
While most of the time you can use Windows 2k drivers on Win XP or XP on Vista even, you simply cannot use 32bit drivers on a 64bit OS, even if it's the same "family" (eg. 32bit XP vs 64bit XP).

As you may potentially lose a lot of legacy HW support and only really gain support for 4+GB of RAM, that is considered a bad deal in my eyes.
The situation is hopefully to change with Windows 7, which is supposed to come out in a 64bit fashion only (hence, Vista is the last 32bit OS from MS).
That would finally force HW and SW manufacturers to move to 64bit.
While that still does not solve the legacy HW problem, at least all new HW to come out will have drivers that support 64bit mode. Currently, that is not even the case.

Therefore, in my eyes, unless you really have to address 4+ GB of RAM, stick with 32bit for the time being and save yourself a lot of incompatibility hassles.

Me, neither, so it took me quite a while to find this out.
Even more surprising when this was working great for months if not years before so I was puzzled very much when it stopped working.
Only though coincidence I happended to remember my ISP's proxy which I last used some +5 years ago.

The even funnier thing was that all the nightly downloads worked fine (so I could test them packs alright) but I couldn't get any of the official ones wink
Well, as long as I grabbed the latest nightly before finalization (which usually is just a rename anyway), I was fine... tongue

Again, a driver coming through WindowsUpdate, being newer than the one included in and installed from the latest nightly.

http://3rdpartydriverpacks.thesneaky.co … 10.1.0).7z

As for possible .CAT files that may be needed, I couldn't really find this versy version on the WU Catalogue
(cf. http://catalog.update.microsoft.com/v7/ … Connection )
There do seem to be a handful of XP drivers listed but none matches the version number as far as I can tell.


EDIT: Just took a look into the archive I uploaded only to see the .CAT file present right there...
All is well, I guess smile

big_smile

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Once slipstreaming has finished successfully, there will be a notification pop-up window telling you this along with the time it took to slipstream and the only option to "ok" that message.
If this does not appear, something went wrong and you are strongly adviced to retry the whole process.

As for creating the bootable CD/DVD, I always make use of nLite for that out of convenience.
I was using cdimage.exe along with CDR-Win before but that is rather cumbersome.

For me, several months ago it wouldn't work UNLESS I set up my ISP's HTTP proxy (which I usually never use because I'd get referrer errors from other sites then).
Because this is the largest ISP of Germany and basically affected all their customers, I think Bâshrat the Sneaky changed something in the referrer code to make it work again without the proxy.

As for your case, I can only give you the advise to fiddle with your browser's HTTP proxy settings seeing as you've tried virtually all the other options already...

mr_smartepants wrote:
Jaak wrote:

thanks.
We learn something new every day.

Yes, Google is a wonderful resource.  big_smile

If you know how to use it...

*ducks for cover*

tongue

mr_smartepants wrote:

IIRC, the PHP code uses a referer line to activate the download.  Some AV programs with firewalls (Symantec does this!) will block the referer and you'll receive the 'anti-leech' warning.
The solution is simple, just disable your firewall for the duration of the download (don't worry, there's no spyware involved).
I was hit by this several times until I upgraded to the new Symantec Endpoint Protection which fixed the blind referer issue.

I haven't been using any of the Norton/Symantec programs for a couple of years now but I am a bit puzzled what blocking HTTP referrers (that are part of the HTTP specification if I'm not mistaken) has to do with firewall measures.
Probabaly nothing...

OTOH, having to disable your PFW simply to download a file seems to be a rather unadequate measure for such a simple task.
Firstly, if you really NEED a PFW (i.e. no router or other means of HW protection) then it's probably not the best idea to disable it AT ALL.

Secondly, if you do not need a PFW (mainly because you do have HW in use for the task) then the question remains why you are using one in the first place.
No harm done here apart from the fact that it will use up a little system resources and seems to be quite bothersome seeing as you actually have to fiddle with it in order to simply download a file (and we certainly aren't the only site using HTTP referrers). wink

Thirdly, even if there was spyware involved (h*ll NO!), a firewall wouldn't be the proper tool to protect from it - a virus or malware scanner (most AV solutions include the latter one) is what it would take to uncover this.


PS: Yeah, I know I'm quite anti-PFW and I'm sure I am repeating myself here one or the other way.
No need to tell me this - again (you can though, if you really wish ;P)

Thanks.
Can't test them now, though hmm

Sure do, that was just meant as an FYI post to provide a little more info for the intrigued user wink

Basically, it's good to use AHCI if you can but not too bad to not use it if you can't smile

Jaak wrote:

Hi, I had a busy day off and friends visited. smile
Patience, it is not in the 8026nightly

No hurries, the PC this was needed for has been finished anyway (I simply installed the WU plus the controller is not needed anyway as no drives are connected to it).
I just posted for completion's sake smile

edit;
Helmi, I do not find the CAT file for the Silicon Image Serial ATA Pseudo Processor.
Do you have it?

Nope, since I used a driver grabber to get the files, it did not capture the .CAT (and I did not think of searching manually for it roll ).

Anyway:

jinkazama wrote:

I've downloaded original both files from Windows update, i've uploaded into request files in our FTP, here http://3rdpartydriverpacks.thesneaky.co … rom_WU.rar
Good work smile

Can you tell me how you can manually download the files from WU?
Or do you take them from a TEMP dir?

Thanks anyway smile

AHCI does not only offer hot-plugability.

Basically, the idea was to create a unified driver architecture for HDDs so you actually wouldn't need to feed a manufaturer-specific driver during installation (just as it was in the good old dasy with standard IDE controllers).

Of course, this requires the OS to supply the unified driver, something which has not been implemented in XP, of course, due to its age (dunno if SP3 would bring such a driver if slipstreamed, haven't tried that myself).

IDK about nVidia in this case, but theoretically, this should solve our driver woes with them.
Seeing as AHCI is an invention by Intel, it may be that nVidia does not support it 100% by the book, though hmm

Also, AHCI will ususally be needed to make NQC work with SATA drives.
Run them on a controller that uses the legacy setting in the BIOS and they will behave just like their IDE brethren so you gain nothing by using SATA (save the fragile plugs maybe...).


All in all, if possible, one should run in AHCI mode for best performance and compatibility (with up-to-date OSs that is), however, if not possible, reverting back to legacy mode in the BIOS is not that huge a loss to the ordinary user.
Just make sure to set the BIOS properly before you commence installation and do not switch it when an OS is installed unless you take precautious measures!
The HWID of the controller will change if you switch so you will have to have the proper drivers already installed on the OS or you get a BSOD.

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What OverFlow said, but you can of course also manually decompress the files and put that on a DVD if you do not mind the additional space used.
That way, manual driver installation should become a bit faster because the OS won't have to unCAB them first, however seeking times on an optical medium with a large number of little files aren't the best, either.
It may work better using an ISO file that you simply mount to a virtual drive.

It's just personal preference, at best.

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No, it appears it was only the WAIK (which I already got before but in a smaller version containing only German language support).

The lone SP1 should sport around 434 MB from what I have gathered.
So far, there only seem to be torrent sources for the ISO and thehotfixshare.net hasn't got the installer file, yet.

Oh well, it's not as if I'm in a hurry, just a bit curious since I already tested RC1.
I'm not using Vista myself anyway (but know enough folks that have serious issues with and could make good use of SP1; I just don't want to install a non-final version on their rigs...).

Did you check the option for TextMode support in the BASE?
That is imperative!

Also, please post your HWIDs (see my sig) rather than just the names of your HW. smile

It is possible, you can unpack all the packs into one directory and then repack them as you please.
However, IDK how the Finisher works if not all packs are being detected by BASE (since there's only one file and detection works via file names it cannot work).
I would think it would be treated as a 3rd party DriverPack mostly.

The real question is what would be the gain of this and do you want to setup the torrent yourself?

Jaak wrote:

I cannot remember that I needed F6 floppy on machines which used really old arena 4in1, and the old apollo and such did not need F6 either? (talking pentium three here)

No, they don't.
Only sporting your common standard IDE interface that does not make Windows need special drivers to be fed to reckognize.

Still have one of these boxes around here, btw wink