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I agree too.

I sometimes do not want to undo the fine tuning.

There is a lot of Legacy in DriverPacks. I doubt there is an active current team member whom has all original drivers on his drive. Are there any?
I don't have all.
There are quite a few members with more expertise than I have, and I think they all know we have to make choices every now and then.
Jeff has summarised how we have to make our choices more than once.

after the few tests I did without sound DriverPacks and suitable hardware, I think samlab has the key to conflict.
HDMI in video cards could be clashing with sound.

Erik, when I tried to corroberate that, I used low cost motherboards and graphics cards and I knew that the driver CD supplied with the mobo had a bad install routine because it clashed with its own IGP, and no third party graphics card was plugged.

when I used other testbeds, I saw that some ati drivers (supplied on the CD) had problems with hdmi.
What I am saying is that we see a mess, and it is not your/my/our fault.

Nvidia graphics and ATI with TV and sound capability will (this is for real.. it is a statement) clash with things like realtek.
We could have a perfect DriverPacks combo for 99.98 percent of users, and the next update in any of the main DriverPacks or third party (third party like modems with sound/and TV with sound..) can and (a prediction; they will) introduce issues to 20 percent.

edit;
HDaud sound capability and HDMI will, in my opinion, be an issue because the manufactors don't get their drivers right, and they seldom (if ever) look at conflict issues (with/against other manufactors // OEM implentations.) like we had to do...

@ babyboy,

we have a Dutch language forum.
Real important problems will get escalated and translated. I think you can explain what happened in our native Dutch language a lot better.

7zip is freeware.
Winrar (last time I looked it was not free..) is not needed, and may have introduced an "unknown" error.
Actually, you only need to uncompress when you want to edit the DriverPacks.

Far as I know, you can not include the hash in the archive, because the hash is calculated after the archive was made.
(which made me write the daft suggestion to make the DriverPacks, calculate the hash, pack the DriverPacks with the hash info into a new file, and give it a new extention (not an archive extention) so that base 'could' unpack the BTX "zip" wich included the hash txtfile and then read the content of the hash/compare to hash of the real 7z of the DriverPacks... and, actually, nobody could guarantee that THAT hash was not tampered with.. If you were to modify your own dp and did this yourself... The hash we post online cannot be tampered with unless you hack the site. We post the size, the hash, and have always allowed users to modify their DriverPacks because advanced users can/and will. We rely on advanced users to solve issues with driver conflicts.)

(A re-iteration is something else.. I used the word because it was the first that came to mind.)

sounds impossible to me.
it is like a re-iteration?

Suppose you have a 7z file, you calculate its hash, then write that hash as txtfile (or whatever, with standardised naming) and include the hash in the new 7zip, with a new extention (BTX), so that the DriverPacks BASE has to unpack hash and real DP, check hash txt against file hash..

huh?
pop a warning when the file was edited by user..

I have nothing against posting the hash, but I think coding strict file hash safety in DriverPacks BASE is not easy.

welcome to our nightmare.

welcome to DriverPacks.

here is an OLDer worksheet. (april)
http://dev.driverpacks.thesneaky.com/dr … sB_804x.7z

Jeff, the BBS has a tendency to mess with tabs when you put a txt in "code" tags.

(and I think that when I undo the code tags, it will not correctly resolve to original state.)

a link to the code on a skydrive or whatever else that does not drop spyware and adverts (or long waits) is fine by me.

(besides, google loves long posts and code.)

VBP2004EP3
I forgot to say welcome.

the thought on writing something helpful that had not yet been written on HOW to find out what will/will not be supported occured after the third carriage return in first post.

We usually ask, please post HWID (and we think you know what we mean.).
(We explain HOW quite easy. We actually always meant the HWIDS from the computer that needs the drivers. I sometimes think we also have to explain that little important fact as well..)

Hi folks.
I have not been able to look at SamLabs script trickery for folder manipulation.
The link was dead.

I do know that I can not write scrips to do this, but I have been able to manipulate DriverPacks folder layout in the DriverPacks INI after I manipulated folder structure for really really (REALLY) short method 1.

@ Samlab
What is the good in changing G to V? (sound first. Then graphics. I can follow that train of thoughts. BUT.... There are TV and graphics cards, and MODEM with HDaudio. ((Not only sound.))
And I am thinking it is a conflict, not so much a load order. BUT Samlab, you do know what you are doing; and I know that graphics HDMI can cause a yeller. )

also @ samlab.
when you change folder name.. You realise you HAVE to edit the dpg INI, do you?

Hi
you can find out.

get to overview, download all current DriverPacks you think they need (including 3rd part dp) and DriverPacks BASE.
Copy a 'test' OS like a corporate or a current XP SP3 (which does not ask key and has a nice grace period.) to hard disk, run the DriverPacks BASE, and build a source to burn to DVD.

connect a blank drive to one of those laptops (you can get a blank, I hope.)
(I know there ARE laptops with TWO hard drives.. if your company has those,  remove both and replace with two blanks)

set up.
report.
We do not have databases on individual laptops.
What YOU could do is post the HWID readouts from a working laptop, so we can look at those lines, but, you would actually also be able to do so.

HWID readout has like 40 lines.
you uncompress all DriverPacks.
you run a HWID readout
then you run search for content 'txt content' of a single line with 'PCI_VEN_ subsys (and no more) against extracted DriverPacks folder.
When there is NO match, search generic PCI_VEN_

there is a description on the meaning of life in the FAQ link in my sig.

these are notes

asus (weve had a good many reports on asus, it sounds like it uses a proprietary)
ICH8 82801HB & JMB363

Jmb (like on my crapola testplank )
affected hwids

PCI\VEN_197B&DEV_2363&SUBSYS_81E41043&REV_03\4&18CD42CE&0&00E4: JMicron JMB36X Controller
PCI\VEN_197B&DEV_2363&SUBSYS_81E41043&REV_03\4&18CD42CE&0&01E4: Standard Dual Channel PCI IDE Controller
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_244E&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_F2\3&11583659&0&F0: Intel® 82801 PCI Bridge - 244E
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2810&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_02\3&11583659&0&F8: Intel® ICH8/ICH8R Family LPC Interface Controller - 2810
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2824&SUBSYS_81EC1043&REV_02\3&11583659&0&FA: Intel® ICH9 SATA AHCI Controller

QUESTION;
1; what mode is BIOS set at?
2: are you running a raid array?

I would like to add some links to interesting articles and topics.

first off; dissappearing drive letters, with USB storage and other USB devices.
http://www.uwe-sieber.de/usbtrouble_e.html

second; are card readers the only ingredient in lettersoup?
http://forum.driverpacks.net/viewtopic.php?pid=11012

TIP;
forum search changed to google search.
it automagically filled in driverpacks as key word in search field. LEAVE IT IN.

FORUM wide tip
1; Always use rightclick and open in new TAB or window when you want to follow a link..
2; hit the subscribe link to a topic you answer to.
(And to a topic you want to see replies to when you did not yet participate in that topic as starter or by replying yourself.)