Topic: Unknown devices

Hello.

I'm using m2 with ktd for an xp disc.  Is there any reason why I would have several unknown devices in the device manager after setup is all done?

I can then just doubleclick all of them and update driver and it will find it automatically from the ktd location, except for maybe 1 of them.  Or maybe it is because 1 device failed to install from setup that it didn't finish the rest of the devices.

Thanks.

Re: Unknown devices

There's no way for us to tell what happened unless you post your logs. 
There is a known bug in XP where if you have too many DriverPacks, the filepath length exceeds the limit and no drivers are installed.
This is in our FAQ: http://forum.driverpacks.net/viewtopic.php?id=4446
Please read the "read before you post" linked in my signature then post all the required log files.

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Re: Unknown devices

Hmm, that's probably the reason then.  I used, like, all the packs.

And didn't find a dpinst.log

I'll try taking out some drivers.

DPs_BASE.log

2011-05-12 16:40:43 : <INIT> DriverPacks BASE 10.06 initialized.
2011-05-12 16:40:43 : <INIT> Host environment: WIN_XP Service Pack 3 X86 on a X64 CPU.
2011-05-12 16:40:44 : <INIT> Created temporary working directory.
2011-05-12 16:40:44 : <INIT> Imported proxy settings from Internet Explorer.
2011-05-12 16:40:44 : <INIT> Start scanning for DriverPacks for the wnt5_x86-32 platform.
2011-05-12 16:40:44 : <INIT> 	Detected DriverPack Chipset 1101!
2011-05-12 16:40:44 : <INIT> 	Detected DriverPack CPU 1005!
2011-05-12 16:40:44 : <INIT> 	Detected DriverPack Graphics A 1011!
2011-05-12 16:40:44 : <INIT> 	Detected DriverPack Graphics B 10111!
2011-05-12 16:40:44 : <INIT> 	Detected DriverPack Graphics C 1011!
2011-05-12 16:40:44 : <INIT> 	Detected DriverPack LAN 1101!
2011-05-12 16:40:44 : <INIT> 	Detected DriverPack Mass Storage 1101!
2011-05-12 16:40:44 : <INIT> 	Detected DriverPack Sound A 1009!
2011-05-12 16:40:44 : <INIT> 	Detected DriverPack Sound B 1009!
2011-05-12 16:40:44 : <INIT> 	Detected DriverPack WLAN 1101!
2011-05-12 16:40:44 : <INIT> 	Detected 3rd Party DriverPack Bluetooth 910!
2011-05-12 16:40:44 : <INIT> 	Detected 3rd Party DriverPack FNET 1111!
2011-05-12 16:40:44 : <INIT> 	Detected 3rd Party DriverPack Graphics Languages 10111!
2011-05-12 16:40:44 : <INIT> 	Detected 3rd Party DriverPack Graphics PhysX 1011!
2011-05-12 16:40:44 : <INIT> 	Detected 3rd Party DriverPack HID 1101!
2011-05-12 16:40:44 : <INIT> 	Detected 3rd Party DriverPack LAN-RIS 1011!
2011-05-12 16:40:44 : <INIT> 	Detected 3rd Party DriverPack Misc 1011!
2011-05-12 16:40:44 : <INIT> 	Detected 3rd Party DriverPack Modem 1101!
2011-05-12 16:40:44 : <INIT> 	Detected 3rd Party DriverPack Monitor 1005!
2011-05-12 16:40:44 : <INIT> 	Detected 3rd Party DriverPack Runtimes 1011!
2011-05-12 16:40:44 : <INIT> 	Detected 3rd Party DriverPack TV 1005!
2011-05-12 16:40:44 : <INIT> 	Detected 3rd Party DriverPack USB 1008!
2011-05-12 16:40:44 : <INIT> 	Detected 3rd Party DriverPack WebCam 1101!
2011-05-12 16:40:44 : <INIT> 	Finished scanning.
2011-05-12 16:40:44 : <INIT> Detected settings file "D:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\Desktop\tools\DP\DPs_BASE.ini".
2011-05-12 16:40:44 : <INIT> Windows XP Professional -  Retail SP3 detected.
2011-05-12 16:40:44 : <INIT> wnt5_x86-32_disc is the selected installation platform .
2011-05-12 16:40:44 : <INIT> Imported settings from settings file.
2011-05-12 16:40:44 : <GUI>  Initialized GUI.
2011-05-12 16:40:44 : <GUI>  Created a list of all available language files.
2011-05-12 16:40:44 : <GUI>  Set the last used language, English, as the GUI language.
2011-05-12 16:42:11 : <GUI>  Closed GUI.
2011-05-12 16:42:11 : <GUI>  Saved settings!
2011-05-12 16:42:11 : <CLNP> Temporary working directory successfully deleted.
- = DriverPacks BASE ini settings used = -
[General]
; preferred language
prefLang	= "English"
; yes/no, enable or disable the wizard-style buttons, if not specified: yes
wizardButtons	= "yes"
; yes/no, enable or disable the GUI, if not specified: yes
GUI		= "yes"


[Settings]
; disc/bartpe/multibootDisc
instPlatform	= "disc"
; trailing backslash is allowed, but not necessary
location	= "C:\dvd_path"
; none/all/select, if select, specify them below, if not specified: all
DriverPacks	= "all"
; 1/2, method to install the DriverPacks, if not specified: 2
DPsMethod	= "2"
; GUIRunOnce/RunOnceEx/custom, if not specified: GUIRunOnce
finisherMethod	= "RunOnceEx"


; you should only add this section if you've set [Settings]\finishMethod to "RunOnceEx"
[RunOnceExSettings]
; custom/default, if not specified: default
startID		= "default"


; this section is optional!
[OptionalSettings]
; none/all/select/paths/patterns, enable or disable Keep The Drivers (KTD) , if not specified: none
KTD		= "all"
; <path>, to specify a custom KTD cache location, if not specified: default (%SystemRoot%\DriverPacks)
KTDlocation	= "%SystemRoot%\DriverPacks"
; yes/no, enable or disable QuickStream Cache (QSC), if not specified: yes
QSC		= "yes"


; this section is optional!
[OptionalSettingsOther]
; CCC/CCP/None, use ATI Catalyst Control Center or ATI Catalyst Control Panel (only relevant when slipstreaming Graphics DriverPack)
; 1/2/3/None, use Nvidia Control Panel - 1 = Old, 2 = New, 3 = Both, None
ATI_cpl		= "CCC"
Nvidia_cpl	= "2"
2011-05-12 16:42:11 : <CLNP> Create a DPs_Base.log backup @ D:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\Desktop\tools\DP\LogFiles\DPs_BASE_11-05-12_16-42.log
2011-05-12 16:42:11 : <CLNP> Program terminated.

Re: Unknown devices

Is there any particular reason you used them all?
For example you would have to have a VERY exceptional reason to include DriverPack LAN-RIS 1011
Why have you chosen to do KTD? I can't think of a single good reason to select KTD...

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Re: Unknown devices

You are correct.  It's a bit much as is.
I think I'm just going to use KTD on a few 3rd party ones, since those devices aren't plugged in during setup.

Re: Unknown devices

KTD wastes HDD space and causes other problems during setup.  Your best bet is to install the Third Party DriverPacks post-setup using our SAD utility here:

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Re: Unknown devices

Agreed run SAD at time of deployment

the only exception to this might be the monitor pack... HID would be pushing your luck.

If you still have users adding an external modem (say for use as a fax) then perhaps the 3rd party DriverPack for modems.... not many people use modems anymore.... can't imagine you really might need to do this hmm

Truely there is no good reason to use KTD... SAD is 1000 times better. The only reason KTD still exists is for nostalga, it was an original feature of BASE and over the years we have come to realize it sucks... Some things sound really good in theory, but don't work in the real world. I have left it there purely for sentimental reasons big_smile.

It will work for VERY BASIC drivers (like a monitor driver)
It will absolutely fail at advanced drivers like Graphics and Sound (that require coinstallers).
If you need the chipset pack ... then you have installed a new motherboard right? then you absolutely need SAD.

KTD is dead, Long live SAD!

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Re: Unknown devices

I'll just make a small pack for usb barcode scanners, usb cardswipes, etc, that would be plugged in later.  And those use simple drivers.
And then I'll play around with SAD.

Re: Unknown devices

Sounds like you are heading in the right direction now...

Welcome to DriverPacks.net

PS if you have slipstreamed DriverPacks into your install you already have SAD in your hands. Just run "DP_Install_Tool.cmd" from the OEM folder big_smile. SAD is automatically included so you can update any NT5 platforms ( 2k, XP or 2k3) just by inserting the install disc and running the script. You can even put SAD on a thumb drive if you please big_smile.

PSS SAD stands for "Stand Alone Drivers" and uses Microsoft's DPINST.exe as its engine.

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Re: Unknown devices

I have filepath issue again when use all officiel drivers and other 5 3rd packs sad

I think modem and webcams packs are so big now.

Re: Unknown devices

Thanks abdou for reminder would you start thread if feedback support BASE (this forum)....
this issue has been resolved i just need to make sure i get it in the next release...
http://forum.driverpacks.net/viewtopic. … 641#p42641


Thanks buddie,

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Re: Unknown devices

abdou wrote:

I have filepath issue again when use all officiel drivers and other 5 3rd packs sad

I think modem and webcams packs are so big now.

The filepath problem only affects the current builds of DriverPacks BASE.  SAD and SAD2 utilities are unaffected.
Jeff's right, once we get the new devpath built it will solve all our problems. smile

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Re: Unknown devices

I built it and have it included in the head revision (my local). I am working on the CDOB PnP fix and hope to get that out soon. Would be nice to get some feedback on the alpha on the team forum... I can only assume no news is good news big_smile.

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Re: Unknown devices

@OverFlow

To clarify: can you compare again http://forum.driverpacks.net/viewtopic. … 151#p32151

Setupreg.hiv does match textmode only.

First reboot does require addional settings.

This works here: a edited setupreg.hiv and txtsetup.sif

[SourceDisksFiles]
hiveBTS.inf = 1,,,,,,,2,0,0

[HiveInfs.Fresh]
...
AddReg = hiveBTS.inf,AddReg

[HiveInfs.Upgrade]
...
AddReg = hiveBTS.inf,AddReg

hiveBTS.inf

[Version]
Signature = "$Windows NT$"
DriverVer=07/01/2001,5.1.2600.5512

[AddReg]
HKLM,"SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\nvgts\Parameters\PnpInterface","5",0x00010003,1
HKLM,"SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\nvgts5\Parameters\PnpInterface","5",0x00010003,1
HKLM,"SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\nvgts6\Parameters\PnpInterface","5",0x00010003,1
HKLM,"SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\nvgts7\Parameters\PnpInterface","5",0x00010003,1

Re: Unknown devices

Ooooh, NICE! smile

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Re: Unknown devices

VERY HELPFUL cdob, as always.

thanks a million, again.

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