OPEN: Automatic download function for new/updated driverpacks (Page 1 of 2)

Thats right, but Bash could still let the donate button appear within the GUI as soon as you start a download. However, if you ask me, it is not the right thing to accept the Terms of Use more than once a day either. I think  he should put that button onto that page and let it appear once (and only once) before you can download any driverpack.

I only came up with the "automatic update" idea because it is a boring job to find the right files on his site and to move them to the right directory after download. I didn't never say that his donate button mustn't appear anymore, did I?

Edit: uh, a double negotiation in the last line. But I guess you will still get the meaning ;-)

Last edited by mkp (2006-05-30 07:23:39)

I didn't realize this was very annoying, the website hasn't been on my mind the last months (except for the fact that it sucks). So I decided to take immediate action. As a result, you won't be annoyed anymore . The Terms of Service are now just displayed on the download page.

Auto update the packs , best idea ive heard till now.......
Saves lots of time also.

That's why I didn't finish it. Also, I think that we can live with the current solution until you have the time to do that.

In my opinion I think Bashrat should make some sort of Pro version of his DP Base that he gives to people who donate money to him.  The update features could be in the pro version.  He can give all donators access to a certain area of his site which will open the pro version to have access to auto download them.

I think Bashrat deserves it... and I also think that it would be a good gesture to the ones who donate to him.

I believe Bâshrat the Sneaky has already had the thought cross his mind about this issue.

well....... you could punish the abusers by sending them one of the very nifty virii that I have contained.... lets pick my favorite.... the one that, once exicuted, will fry ALL the firmware of ANY connecting device to that system...

.....can you say "Goodbye Computer & All Accesories!"

(man that is a classic)
I loved frying old x286 & x386's with that.

Yeah, if you figure how to weed the 'leakers' and such...how to prevent ppl from getting their hands on any "pro" version well then you should get a job with any of the big corporations as I'm sure they would be interested in your airtight antipiracy packaging. 
I'm just wondering how you can sit there and consider the practice that brought us to these forums anyway? I thought we all had a hand in building up these very helpful programs. You CAN'T take drivers made by manufactures and charge ppl for them by the way...and then where would Bashrat be if he can't even include these drivers with his program? This slipstreamer would be close to useless for those that use them on a large scale without them(drivers). What is the matter with how donations work now anyway? I know that there are ppl out there taking small developers like Bashrat for granted, then again, those that find it the most useful are the ones that have been donating and I bet Bashrat gets a kick doing this kind of thing (too bad it became so helpful and popular, eh?). By the same token, if you start charging for programs like these those that donate will be nothing more than consumers. I'm all for Bashrat getting rich off of us...he's gotten around the things that companies like Microsoft should have been doing for us in the first place!   Cool. You can block ppl from forums and certain functions, but I dare anyone to charge for zipped drivers. 

ppl should remember why they develop these programs in the first place (or are they just wasting their time?). In either case, I don't feel confortable reading this crap on a forum. I'd rather call your customer service department when I buy your product off the shelf.

Well then we both agree with the crap part. Otherwise...I was the one to mention 'getting rich', in which I do not mind parting with money to those that make things easier for me. Do you understand that what we have here are equal parts business and personal use. How are you going to charge someone that makes a disc for personal use...for future reference? Are you ready to cater to only those that do distribution? That makes their job easier? That is what I am talking about.
And being that I myself have d/led contributions made by yourself (and I thank you), my main concern were contributions that made software made by others, easier to slipstream. You can't expect to make a program that uses other ppls software to make a profit. Most of us here can do that for ourselves. Either through Integrator, nLite and whathaveyou. Your software makes things EASIER but they don't make things POSSIBLE. I have no qualms about donating to you. Again, I myself use some of your addons. I myself use nLite. But can you see what I am saying?

If you are asking what I contribute, no it is not money. It is my precious time in trying to track bugs...why nothing of Bashrat's recent release works for me. Do I blame him? No. Was I refering to him in my first post on this specific topic? No.
Do I contribute to topic after topic of how this has failed me or how I-am-not-you (inside joke). I blame my motherboard...and maybe nvidia too. I don't know how to code like yourself. I wrote a piece of s&&t (Hey Bash,..this board doesn't support censoring! LMAO) batch that makes renaming easier. I regularly post to the bugtracker.

I need to see you release something w'out bugs. I want you to contribute and be perfect. Then do a funny thing like charge the ppl that helped you out.

PS...I find your contributions priceless (yeah, really). And one of the things I was trying to convey was that the lot of you actually DO do this as a labor of love. So why keep it from the rest by charging...the rest being that use it as  a one time thing.?.?

Last edited by razormoon (2006-06-06 12:55:22)

@razormoon  I had mentioned a pro version that would unlock other areas of the DriverPacks... not a pay version... just an enhancment for those that have donated.  Wether that be money or bug tracking is up to bashrat.

What people like yourself do not understand is the coding is a lot harder than you imagine.  People like Bashrat (and myself) have spent countless hors, days, weeks... on developing tools to make things easier for people like you.  If you don't mind doing it manually... then suit yourself.  No one is forcing you to do anything.  You act like I had reccomended Bashrat to stop providing the DriverPacks for free.  I just mentioned a pro version for those who contribute.  It is the least that Bashrat deserves. 

I myself have worked so hard on my programs that I have actually got a pinched nerve in my neck from sitting at the computer so much coding.  Then you want to down the idea of Bashrat offering a Pro version for those that contribute?  The option to donate has allways been there.  Why shouldn't Bashrat offer something as a thanks to those that do?? 

You're right people can manually do everything that the DriverPacks do.  But the DriverPacks simplify that task.  You can spend hours to manually do it... or use the DP Base to do it in less than a min.  Hmmmm... wonder what most would do?  Dude... you have no idea what you are talking about.  The only people who would take your side in an argument like this would be simple minded and have no idea the amount of work it takes to create a project like this. I can go on and on about the reasons you're post is meaningless... but my coding finger is more important.

BTW... it is sad if this thread turns into an argument about wether or not Bashrat should make something like what I had mentioned.  It is something for Bashrat to make to say thanks to those who support him.

If someone leaked their login info it would show on the site.  When bashrat sees 2 or more people logging in at a time he cancels there login info.  Also a lot of forums only allow one login at a time.  So no one would be able to log in at the same time anyways.  Someone may try to hack the file... but unless they hack Bashrats forums somehow and creates some sort of login that has access without being logged... I have no idea how they could do that... but hey... I have seen worse things happen.  But who cares... If that happens... then something else could be done later.  But the point is... it is something for Bashrat to give to those who donate.  I am sure it wouldn't hurt him too much if someone so desperatly had to crack a free program to unlock a few pro features.

BTW... we both know that muiz would allready have the pro version if it was available.   Muiz is a strong contributer to the DP project. :thumbsup:

Last edited by Siginet (2006-06-08 13:43:56)