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Topic: [IMP] ATI Rage 128 Pro DELL - PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_5046&SUBSYS_0404xxxx

I'm attempting to create a S.A.D. (Stand Alone Drivers) disc that can be used with Windows 2000 Pro systems, but I'm running into difficulty.

Basically, I'm trying to breathe some new life into older (P3) systems by installing Windows 2000 Pro.  I followed this guide to create an up to date Windows 2000 installation CD with nLite, but slipstreaming all of the DriverPacks drivers left me with an ISO that was too large to fit on a CD.  Since these are older systems, burning to a DVD was not an option.  So I decided to create a S.A.D. disc instead.  Evidently I'm doing something wrong though, so any assistance would be greatly appreciated.

Here's what I've done so far: I installed DPs_BASE_809rc1 to F:\DriverPacks and saved all of the driver packs to F:\DriverPacks\DriverPacks.  Ran DPs_BASE and chose the S.A.D. option under Settings, selected all the driver packs and slipstreamed to F:\SAD.  Finally, I burned the entire DriverPacks.net folder to a CD.

Here's where things go wrong:  On the Windows 2000 system I run DP_Install_Tool.cmd from the DriverPacks.net folder on the CD, and here's what happens:

Locating the DriverPacks...

Prepareing the DriverPacks Finisher. Method 2 was found.

The system cannot find the file specified

Running the MicroSoft Driver Pack Installer now !
The progress window is minimized to the task bar

Running the DriverPacks.net Finisher now!

The system cannot find the path specified.

The DriverPacks Stand Alone Drivers installation is complete!

This window will close itself in 30 seconds...

The sections in bold would seem to indicate that something went wrong (BTW, it looks like someone misspelled "Preparing").

Log files and such are included below:

DPs_BASE.ini:

[General]
; preferred language
prefLang	= "English"
; yes/no, enable or disable the wizard-style buttons, if not specified: yes
wizardButtons	= "yes"
; yes/no, enable or disable the GUI, if not specified: yes
GUI		= "yes"


[Settings]
; disc/bartpe/multibootDisc
instPlatform	= "StandAloneDrivers"
; trailing backslash is allowed, but not necessary
location	= "F:\SAD"
; none/all/select, if select, specify them below, if not specified: all
DriverPacks	= "select"
; 1/2, method to install the DriverPacks, if not specified: 2
DPsMethod	= "2"
; GUIRunOnce/RunOnceEx/custom, if not specified: GUIRunOnce
finisherMethod	= "GUIRunOnce"


; this section is optional!
[OptionalSettings]
; none/all/select/paths/patterns, enable or disable Keep The Drivers (KTD) , if not specified: none
KTD		= "false"
; <path>, to specify a custom KTD cache location, if not specified: default (%SystemRoot%\DriverPacks)
KTDlocation	= "%SystemRoot%\DriverPacks"
; yes/no, enable or disable QuickStream Cache (QSC), if not specified: yes
QSC		= "yes"


; you should only add this section if you've set [Settings]\DriverPacks to "select"
[SelectDriverPacks]
DP_Chipset	= "yes"
DP_CPU		= "yes"
DP_Graphics_A	= "yes"
DP_Graphics_B	= "yes"
DP_Graphics_C	= "yes"
DP_LAN		= "yes"
DP_MassStorage	= "yes"
DP_Sound_A	= "yes"
DP_Sound_B	= "yes"
DP_WLAN		= "yes"
DP_MassStorage_textmode = "no"

DPs_BASE.log, DPINST.LOG, DPsFnshr.log (zipped):

http://www.filedropper.com/dpslogs

One last question: I'd also like to set KTD to keep all the drivers on the hard drive, but I don't have any KTD options after I choose the Stand Alone Drivers option.

Last edited by OverFlow (2008-10-03 15:30:48)

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Re: [IMP] ATI Rage 128 Pro DELL - PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_5046&SUBSYS_0404xxxx

SAD makes KTD obsolete...

IT seems from the log that the machine was updated...

you can either run the dp_inst_tool.cmd with the /v switch  ( dp_inst_tool.cmd /v)
or you can rem the echo off line in the script to see waht is not happy

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Re: [IMP] ATI Rage 128 Pro DELL - PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_5046&SUBSYS_0404xxxx

OverFlow wrote:

SAD makes KTD obsolete...

Does that mean I cannot use KTD to keep all the drivers on the hard drive with a S.A.D. disc?  The reason I ask is that I'm planning on creating a sysprep'd image of the hard drive that I can then clone to other hard drives.  That way I can quickly install an up to date version of Windows 2000 on other systems along with a comprehensive set of built in DriverPack drivers.

OverFlow wrote:

IT seems from the log that the machine was updated...

you can either run the dp_inst_tool.cmd with the /v switch  ( dp_inst_tool.cmd /v)
or you can rem the echo off line in the script to see waht is not happy

I just tried running the DP_Install_Tool.cmd again with the /v switch and the only difference I noticed were a couple of access denied errors as shown below:

Locating the DriverPacks...

Prepareing the DriverPacks now. Method 2 was found.

Access is denied.
Access is denied.

Running the MicroSoft Driver Pack Installer now !
The progress window is minimized to the task bar

Running the DriverPacks.net Finisher now!

The system cannot find the path specified.

The DriverPacks Stand Alone Drivers installation is complete!

This window will close itself in 30 seconds...

What exactly should I be looking for with the /v switch or if I REM the echo off line in DP_Install_Tool.cmd?

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Re: [IMP] ATI Rage 128 Pro DELL - PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_5046&SUBSYS_0404xxxx

if you rem the echo off line all instructions in the file will be output

the line immediatly preceding the error is the line that is complaining

Once we know which instruction is crying then we can proceed to the 'why'

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Re: [IMP] ATI Rage 128 Pro DELL - PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_5046&SUBSYS_0404xxxx

Thanks for your help, OverFlow.  Can you let me know if there's any way I can keep all the drivers on the hard drive with a S.A.D. disc?

Here are the results with the @Echo off REM'd out:

D:\DriverPacks.net>REM @Echo off

D:\DriverPacks.net>REM Written by Jeff Herre AKA OverFlow rev08.09.08

D:\DriverPacks.net>REM A Script to use MicroSofts DPInst.exe with the DriverPacks.

D:\DriverPacks.net>REM Help and Support available at http://forum.DriverPacks.net

D:\DriverPacks.net>TITLE DriverPacks.net Stand Alone Driver Updater   & Color 9f


D:\DriverPacks.net>Set LOG=nul   & IF [/v] NEQ [] (IF /I [/v] NEQ [Q] (Set LOG=/v )  & IF /I [/v] EQU [V] (Set LOG=CON ) )

D:\DriverPacks.net>Echo.   & Echo Locating the DriverPacks...

Locating the DriverPacks...

D:\DriverPacks.net>Set "M=0"   & Set "cur=D:\DriverPacks.net\"

D:\DriverPacks.net>If [\] == [\] Set "cur=D:\DriverPacks.net"

D:\DriverPacks.net>IF Exist "D:\DriverPacks.net\D\" Set "DPLoc=D:\DriverPacks.net"   & Set "M=1"   & GoTo Found

D:\DriverPacks.net>IF Exist "D:\DriverPacks.net\bin\un7zip.exe" Set "DPLoc=D:\DriverPacks.net"   & Set "M=2"   & GoTo Found

D:\DriverPacks.net>Set DPFL=C:\DPsFnshr.ini

D:\DriverPacks.net>IF "2" == "1" (Echo.   & Echo Prepareing the DriverPacks Finisher. Method 1 was found.   & Echo.
IF NOT "D:\DriverPacks.net" == C: Echo Copying Driverpacks Finisher files   & COPY "D:\DriverPacks.net\." C:\  1>>LOG
Echo [Settings]                                 1>C:\DPsFnshr.ini
Echo DPsRoot     = "D:\DriverPacks.net"                         1>>C:\DPsFnshr.ini
Echo DPsRootDel  = "false"                      1>>C:\DPsFnshr.ini
CD D:\DriverPacks.net\D )

D:\DriverPacks.net>IF "2" == "2" (Echo.   & Echo Prepareing the DriverPacks now.
Method 2 was found.   & Echo.
Start /wait /separate /high "" "D:\DriverPacks.net\bin\un7zip.exe" "D:\DriverPacks.net\DP*.7z" C:\
COPY /Y "D:\DriverPacks.net\DPInst.*"                  C:\D\  1>>/v
COPY /Y "D:\DriverPacks.net\*.ins"                     C:\    1>>/v
"D:\DriverPacks.net\bin\un7zip.exe" "D:\DriverPacks.net\bin\*.7z"      C:\
Echo [Settings]                                 1>C:\DPsFnshr.ini
Echo DPsRoot     = "C:"                 1>>C:\DPsFnshr.ini
Echo DPsRootDel  = "true"                       1>>C:\DPsFnshr.ini
C:   & cd C:\D )

Prepareing the DriverPacks now. Method 2 was found.

Access is denied.
Access is denied.

C:\D>Echo KTD         = "false"                  1>>C:\DPsFnshr.ini

C:\D>Echo KTDlocation = "C:\WINNT\DriverPacks"   1>>C:\DPsFnshr.ini

C:\D>Echo logLocation = "C:\WINNT"               1>>C:\DPsFnshr.ini

C:\D>Echo.   & Echo.   & Echo Running the MicroSoft Driver Pack Installer now !



Running the MicroSoft Driver Pack Installer now !

C:\D>Echo The progress window is minimized to the task bar   & Echo.   & Echo.
The progress window is minimized to the task bar



C:\D>Start "MicroSoft Driver Pack Installer Tool Running" /wait /separate /realtime /min CMD /C DPInst.exe /c /s

C:\D>Echo.   & Echo Running the DriverPacks.net Finisher now!   & Echo.

Running the DriverPacks.net Finisher now!


C:\D>C:   & cd\   & Start /wait /separate /high "" DPsFnshr.exe

C:\>REM Log and Attended output section

C:\>IF /I [/v] NEQ [Q] (
IF [LOG] NEQ [nul] (Echo.   & Echo Method2 was found at:  1>>/v
Echo D:\DriverPacks.net  1>>/v
Echo List INF's that were matched with this system   1>>/v
FOR /F "usebackq tokens=2,3*" %G IN (`type F:\WINDOWS\DPINST.log`) DO (If [%G]
== [Successfull] IF [%H] == [installation] Echo %G %H %I  1>>/v ) )
Echo.    & Echo The DriverPacks Stand Alone Drivers installation is complete!

Echo    & Start /min sndrec32 /play /close C:\WINNT\media\ding.wav
Echo.    & Echo This window will close itself in 30 seconds...   & Echo.
For /L %A in (1 1 30) do ((set/p z=# ) 0<nul  & ping 127.0.0.1 -n 2  1>nul )
)

The system cannot find the path specified.

The DriverPacks Stand Alone Drivers installation is complete!


This window will close itself in 30 seconds...

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Re: [IMP] ATI Rage 128 Pro DELL - PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_5046&SUBSYS_0404xxxx

the errors are related to differences in the way nt5.0 parses the lines ...

they are not critical errors...

you can do KTD; but i guess you missed the fact that KTD is obsolete now wink

two options here jsut put a M1 driverpacks.net SAD folder on the image and call it from runonce
then once the machine is deplyed and teh drivers updated then the drivers will be removed.
(you will need to change the dpsroot delete line in the .cmd file from DPsRootDel  = "false"  to "true" )

with KTD the 1.5 gig of drivers will never be removed - and they are useless after deployment

or you could put a M2 source on the server and call it from _____ wahtever you like fill in the blank

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Re: [IMP] ATI Rage 128 Pro DELL - PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_5046&SUBSYS_0404xxxx

OK, I decided to test the idea of making an M1 driverpacks.net SAD folder by first running it from a thumbdrive on a Dell XPS T800R running a freshly installed up to date version of Windows 2000 Pro.  Everything ran fine, but it doesn't seem to be installing any drivers at all.  The current system is lacking the drivers for an ATI Rage 128 Pro video card as well the internal Broadxent V.92 PCI fax modem and still shows two question marks in the device manager.

Is there something I'm doing wrong, or are there really no DriverPacks drivers for that particular video card or that particular modem?

Logs (zipped) are included below:

http://www.filedropper.com/dpslogs2

Last edited by Alnonymous (2008-09-30 10:53:42)

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Re: [IMP] ATI Rage 128 Pro DELL - PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_5046&SUBSYS_0404xxxx

ATI Rage PRO is natively supported by windows (even 2k, i am pretty sure). and should not need DriverPacks
did you remove native drivers with nLite or other program? We do not replace all of the native drivers.
I cant remember if rage pro is in graphics c or not... maybe mr_s will chime in here... wink
you could put a rage pro driver in a 3rd party DriverPack of not, or if you just have one you really like...

Did you add the 3rd party DriverPack for modems ?

your link doesnt work...

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Re: [IMP] ATI Rage 128 Pro DELL - PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_5046&SUBSYS_0404xxxx

I did not remove any of the hardware support items in nLite (I even reconstructed my nLite Windows 2000 CD and reinstalled to be on the safe side), so it would seem that Windows 2000 does not include native drivers for the ATI Rage 128 Pro video card.  It looks like Graphics B is supposed to include the ATI Rage Pro drivers though, so I'm still baffled as to why it isn't being installed from my DriverPacks.net S.A.D. folder.

I'm not too worried about the modem driver (like you said, I suppose I can add that as a 3rd party driverpack if needs be), but it certainly seems like the video card driver should have been installed.

I uploaded my zipped logs to an alternative file hosting service, so hopefully this link will work:

http://www.fileqube.com/shared/POMlQIl117957

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Re: [IMP] ATI Rage 128 Pro DELL - PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_5046&SUBSYS_0404xxxx

Ok that was very helpful...

Here is the scoop there is no native driver for rage for win 2k...
We do have the most recent ATI driver from their site included in the packs.
DriverVer=09/26/2001, 6.13.3279.0

this driver does not contain a super generic hwid and you have a knock off or OEM video card

specifically, your finisher log lists a HWID of
PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_5046&SUBSYS_04041002&REV_00\4&415A68E&0&0008: Video Controller (VGA Compatible)

there is no match for PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_5046&SUBSYS_04041002 in the ATI driver.
nor does the ATI driver list the "Super Generic" PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_5046
So the driver is there but it won't ever get used for your video card... sad

two solutions

one you can find the correct driver for this card and provide a link to it.
I recommend this option as the best choice and hope you can find it for us

two you can try this test pack that i hacked.
i recommend choice one please



note to team i copied the original inf and renamed it to ATIxpDPs.inf removed all HWIDS and added the super generic. in this way signing is not broken on the original inf and we still add support for the super generic Our super generic is, of course, not signed. So what... the original INF is unmodified and still signed wink

DriverPack Graphics B jeff mod (ludicrous speed) add support for ati super generic

http://dev.driverpacks.thesneaky.com/dr … 809jeff.7z

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Re: [IMP] ATI Rage 128 Pro DELL - PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_5046&SUBSYS_0404xxxx

OverFlow wrote:

two solutions

one you can find the correct driver for this card and provide a link to it.
I recommend this option as the best choice and hope you can find it for us

two you can try this test pack that i hacked.
i recommend choice one please

OK, I looked it up on the Dell web site and here's a link to their driver:

http://ftp.us.dell.com/video/128ATI2K.EXE

I'll hold off for now from trying the test pack you created.

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Re: [IMP] ATI Rage 128 Pro DELL - PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_5046&SUBSYS_0404xxxx

OK i have a Nightly that includes your Dell Rage driver ready

Please test and report...

http://dev.driverpacks.thesneaky.com/dr … 2_81001.7z

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Re: [IMP] ATI Rage 128 Pro DELL - PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_5046&SUBSYS_0404xxxx

OverFlow wrote:

OK i have a Nightly that includes your Dell Rage driver ready

Please test and report...

http://dev.driverpacks.thesneaky.com/dr … 2_81001.7z

Worked like charm!  Thanks muchly for all your help and patience, OverFlow.

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Re: [IMP] ATI Rage 128 Pro DELL - PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_5046&SUBSYS_0404xxxx

Glad to help

mr_smartepants has indicated that this will be included in teh next official release to...

Thank you for making DriverPacks better...

PS did you ever check out our 3rd party DriverPack for modems to see if yours was already included?

PSS moved to graphics forum and topic updated to reflect the issue that was resolved

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Re: [IMP] ATI Rage 128 Pro DELL - PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_5046&SUBSYS_0404xxxx

OverFlow wrote:

DriverPack Graphics B jeff mod (ludicrous speed)

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Ludicrous speed?  Well that's just ludicrous!

I'll make sure this gets added to the next nightly.

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