Re: [IMPL] Intel Matrix Storage v8.6.0.1007 10/12/2008

Hi Jaak,

Let me start with a litte summary:

I will try to test and support as much as i can, dont forget i am a rookie smile
Asus P5 Board, with, ICH8 82801HB & JMB363
HardwareIDs can be taken from XP-32 OS: http://www.boot-land.net/forums/index.p … mp;p=39193

ICH8 82801HB always trouble smile

to setup ICH8 82801HB driver on xp, Device manager - add a new device, after showing from ahcii driver (ahcif6flpy32) from the list choosing ich9.

I had trouble using Bart's PE cd of my own with my Asus P5B board when ahci enabled with ICH8 82801HB disk, cause i cant reach the disk as its drivers arent loaded.

For Bart's PE, i found a solution by the help of fernando from msnf by adding some lines + sth, here you can find: http://www.msfn.org/board/Integration-o … ntry737769

I started to use Winbuilder_LiveXP, and problem again, so i posted boot-land. Galapo send me files to change in DriverPacks package (as you already know)   iaahci.rar DriverPack_MassStorage_wnt5_x86_32.rar, which worked nice with livexp.
http://www.boot-land.net/forums/index.p … mp;p=39219

Than you came, and welcome. smile

i put DP_MassStorage_wnt5_x86-32_806E.7z file to D:\winbuilder_LiveXP\Workbench\Common\DriverPacks\MassStorage folder without changing the name of file (and deleted old files), builded it and create sdi image.

sorry this time livexp didnt see the ICH8 82801HB connected (ahci enabled) disk

i also tested to use Galapo's iaahci.inf on my Bart's PE (putting it in with other files to D:\pebuilder\drivers\SCSIAdapter\ahcif6flpy32) , it didnt work there.


So far i solved my livexp problem by help of galapo and bartpe problem with fernando for personal usage,

i would like to test what you would want me to contribute the DriverPacks massstorage pack. only dont forget, i am a rookie :>.

Re: [IMPL] Intel Matrix Storage v8.6.0.1007 10/12/2008

The reason is because your hwid -- VEN_8086&DEV_2824 -- does not appear in this release either.

Regards,
Galapo.

Re: [IMPL] Intel Matrix Storage v8.6.0.1007 10/12/2008

these are notes sad

asus (weve had a good many reports on asus, it sounds like it uses a proprietary)
ICH8 82801HB & JMB363

Jmb (like on my crapola testplank )
affected hwids

PCI\VEN_197B&DEV_2363&SUBSYS_81E41043&REV_03\4&18CD42CE&0&00E4: JMicron JMB36X Controller
PCI\VEN_197B&DEV_2363&SUBSYS_81E41043&REV_03\4&18CD42CE&0&01E4: Standard Dual Channel PCI IDE Controller
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_244E&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_F2\3&11583659&0&F0: Intel® 82801 PCI Bridge - 244E
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2810&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_02\3&11583659&0&F8: Intel® ICH8/ICH8R Family LPC Interface Controller - 2810
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2824&SUBSYS_81EC1043&REV_02\3&11583659&0&FA: Intel® ICH9 SATA AHCI Controller

QUESTION;
1; what mode is BIOS set at?
2: are you running a raid array?

The answer was 42?
Kind regards, Jaak.

Re: [IMPL] Intel Matrix Storage v8.6.0.1007 10/12/2008

Useing "D:\pebuilder\drivers\SCSIAdapter\ahcif6flpy32) , it didnt work there."

Is a technique that is mostly obsolete with the driverpacks plugin.
if you wish to use that method, then you can not use the Base mass storage plugin at the same time.
\drivers\SCSIAdapter or DriverPacks mass storage plugin, not Both... The likely hood your driver will have the same name as an existing file is to great. if two files have the same name the last one copied during the build process is used. (this also does not generate a build error) this can cause huge problems.

the bes thing to do is to get your driver added to the packs since we now know that that HWID is not supported lets get it and add it and then it will be supported!

Thanks for the excellent details and your feedback

Have a great day and welcome to the forum

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Re: [IMPL] Intel Matrix Storage v8.6.0.1007 10/12/2008

and we have four iastors.. good grief.

The answer was 42?
Kind regards, Jaak.

Re: [IMPL] Intel Matrix Storage v8.6.0.1007 10/12/2008

'good grief' is an oxymoron wink

you jumbo shrimp! LOL

same request as here sir! http://forum.driverpacks.net/viewtopic. … 142#p22142

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Re: [IMPL] Intel Matrix Storage v8.6.0.1007 10/12/2008

Sorry for long messages, i wrote things twice sometimes not to overstep or misinform things.

Hi OverFlow smile
Thanks for info, i put only ahci and jmb drivers to \drivers folder of bartpe for personal usage, i wrote the result of my trials with that way.


Jaak:
i am not sure the answer of bios mode (only rookie), i get some bios information for you, i hope it helps:
Bios-->Main-->Ide Configuration-->SATA Configuration-->Configure SATA as-->AHCI
Bios-->Advanced-->Chipset-->Onboard Devices Configuration-->Jmicron Sata/PATA Controller-->Jmicron Sata Controller Mode-->RAID
2)
Yes i use raid0, on jmb363 connected disk.
jmb363 connected:
2 sata harddisk as raid0
1 eide harddisk
ICH8 82801HB:
1 sata harddisk as ahci

(no cd/dvd connected any of them, i connect my dvdrw from usb)

here is a picture http://img116.imageshack.us/img116/396/77098551nx3.png
(flash drive connected to usb)

AsusP5B supports raid only on jmb363 connected disks, ICH8 82801HB dont have raid option.
Totally: 2 eide + 2 sata controlled by jmb363 ; 4 sata controlled by ICH8 82801HB

Here is more hwid information taken with using xp32: http://www.filefactory.com/file/f983e4/n/2_rar

note: i use 2003-64 for personal usage nowadays, for trial and learn. i have xp32 on other partition of disk. As far as i understand xp64 is client of 200364 (like old days, nt workstation, nt server :>) If any info requested from 2003-64 ask, to avoid anymisinfo i took hwids information running xp32. :>.

Last edited by Lancelot (2008-07-08 02:54:28)

Re: [IMPL] Intel Matrix Storage v8.6.0.1007 10/12/2008

Lancelot wrote:

I had trouble using Bart's PE cd of my own with my Asus P5B board when ahci enabled with ICH8 82801HB disk, cause i cant reach the disk as its drivers arent loaded.

Intel dosn't support AHCI mode at a ICH8 82801HB.
http://www.intel.com/support/chipsets/i … 012304.htm

Hence no Intel driver package contain a HardwareID PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2824&CC_0106.
Yes hardware may work at AHCI mode, this is without manufacturer support.
Therefore you have to add this HardwareID yourself.

Lancelot wrote:

i also tested to use Galapo's iaahci.inf on my Bart's PE (putting it in with other files to D:\pebuilder\drivers\SCSIAdapter\ahcif6flpy32) , it didnt work there.

PEBuilder dosn't process *.inf file, txtsetup.oem is used. Adjust txtsetup.oem.

Re: [IMPL] Intel Matrix Storage v8.6.0.1007 10/12/2008

Thanks cdob, now i understand the reason of my ICH8 82801HB-Ahci driver problem.

cdob wrote:
Lancelot wrote:

i also tested to use Galapo's iaahci.inf on my Bart's PE (putting it in with other files to D:\pebuilder\drivers\SCSIAdapter\ahcif6flpy32) , it didnt work there.

PEBuilder dosn't process *.inf file, txtsetup.oem is used. Adjust txtsetup.oem.

I am not an expert about PEBuilder running routine but as i wrote before (#27) fernando's addings to iaahci.inf file (not txtsetup.oem) made it work in with bartpe.

ps: bartpe i use is from Bart's website without XPE, with utilites added by me. I use untouched xp32sp2 as source.

here are files for you to compare:
http://www.filefactory.com/file/78e358/ … ncelot_rar

Thanks for your concern.

Re: [IMPL] Intel Matrix Storage v8.6.0.1007 10/12/2008

I've installed a new WinXPsp3 on my Gigabyte GA-P35-DQ6 using DPBase 8.06 and the latest driverpacks from nightlies (DP_Chipset_wnt5_x86-32_806A_PUBLIC.7z; DP_MassStorage_wnt5_x86-32_806E.7z; ...). The installation was flawless so THANKS for the great DriverPacks smile

I found the Intel Storage driver 8.2.3.1001, however, when booting I get this information:

Serial ATA AHCI BIOS, Version iSrc 1.07 08042006
Copyright (c) 2003-2006 Intel Corporation         10
**This version supports only Hard Disk and CDROM drives **
Please wait. This will take few seconds.

AHCI BIOS installed
Intel (R) Matrix Storage Manager option ROM v 7.5.0.1017 ICH9R wRAID5
Copyright (c) 2003-07 Intel Corporation

As a noob it looks to me like the ROM is old. Could you PLEASE tell me how to update this roll

OverFlow wrote:

And post your hwids with your feedback if you want to see us do a little dance of happyness wink

Since I really want to see the little dance:

===========
PCI devices
===========


PCI\VEN_104C&DEV_8024&SUBSYS_10001458&REV_00\4&1ADD88A5&0&30F0: Texas Instruments OHCI Compliant IEEE 1394 Host Controller
PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0611&SUBSYS_11701462&REV_A2\4&1A9C9F1A&0&0008: NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT
PCI\VEN_10EC&DEV_8168&SUBSYS_E0001458&REV_01\4&CF4E44&0&00E5: Realtek RTL8168/8111 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet NIC
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_244E&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_92\3&13C0B0C5&0&F0: Intel(R) 82801 PCI Bridge - 244E
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2822&SUBSYS_B0001458&REV_02\3&13C0B0C5&0&FA: Intel(R) ICH8R/ICH9R/ICH10R SATA RAID Controller
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2916&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_02\3&13C0B0C5&0&F8: Intel(R) ICH9R LPC Interface Controller - 2916
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2930&SUBSYS_50011458&REV_02\3&13C0B0C5&0&FB: Intel(R) ICH9 Family SMBus Controller - 2930
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2934&SUBSYS_50041458&REV_02\3&13C0B0C5&0&E8: Intel(R) ICH9 Family USB Universal Host Controller - 2934
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2935&SUBSYS_50041458&REV_02\3&13C0B0C5&0&E9: Intel(R) ICH9 Family USB Universal Host Controller - 2935
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2936&SUBSYS_50041458&REV_02\3&13C0B0C5&0&EA: Intel(R) ICH9 Family USB Universal Host Controller - 2936
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2937&SUBSYS_50041458&REV_02\3&13C0B0C5&0&D0: Intel(R) ICH9 Family USB Universal Host Controller - 2937
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2938&SUBSYS_50041458&REV_02\3&13C0B0C5&0&D1: Intel(R) ICH9 Family USB Universal Host Controller - 2938
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2939&SUBSYS_50041458&REV_02\3&13C0B0C5&0&D2: Intel(R) ICH9 Family USB Universal Host Controller - 2939
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_293A&SUBSYS_50061458&REV_02\3&13C0B0C5&0&EF: Intel(R) ICH9 Family USB2 Enhanced Host Controller - 293A
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_293C&SUBSYS_50061458&REV_02\3&13C0B0C5&0&D7: Intel(R) ICH9 Family USB2 Enhanced Host Controller - 293C
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_293E&SUBSYS_A0221458&REV_02\3&13C0B0C5&0&D8: Microsoft UAA-busstuurprogramma voor High Definition Audio
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2940&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_02\3&13C0B0C5&0&E0: Intel(R) ICH9 Family PCI Express Root Port 1 - 2940
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2948&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_02\3&13C0B0C5&0&E4: Intel(R) ICH9 Family PCI Express Root Port 5 - 2948
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_294A&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_02\3&13C0B0C5&0&E5: Intel(R) ICH9 Family PCI Express Root Port 6 - 294A
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_29C0&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_02\3&13C0B0C5&0&00: Intel(R) G33/G31/P35/P31 Express Chipset Processor to I/O Controller - 29C0
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_29C1&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_02\3&13C0B0C5&0&08: Intel(R) G33/G31/P35/P31 Express Chipset PCI Express Root Port - 29C1
21 matching device(s) found.


===========
USB devices
===========

USB\ROOT_HUB\4&26397AB7&0                                   : USB-hoofdhub
USB\ROOT_HUB\4&2D364FD6&0                                   : USB-hoofdhub
USB\ROOT_HUB\4&30B58B36&0                                   : USB-hoofdhub
USB\ROOT_HUB\4&70ACE42&0                                    : USB-hoofdhub
USB\ROOT_HUB\4&99F0121&0                                    : USB-hoofdhub
USB\ROOT_HUB\4&BD04752&0                                    : USB-hoofdhub
USB\ROOT_HUB20\4&269B1DF4&0                                 : USB-hoofdhub
USB\ROOT_HUB20\4&88AB043&0                                  : USB-hoofdhub
8 matching device(s) found.

Last edited by Kees030 (2008-07-10 06:21:48)

Re: [IMPL] Intel Matrix Storage v8.6.0.1007 10/12/2008

I was just posting new iaahci.inf file to here with uniting fernando and galopo version which successfully work on both bartpe and livexp,
, than i saw another site who did exactly the same thing with me: (hwids are same)
you can get iaahci.inf from there, same as mine: http://kerneltrap.org/node/7582  (82801HB adds to this iaahci.inf are same with what i do)

From there, i understand that not only AsusP5B uses 82801HB in ahci mode, also Intel® Desktop Board DG965RY uses it in ahci mode too, with same hwid.

Also look here for http://www.intel.com/design/chipsets/sp … 313057.htm site for ICH8 Family Specification Update.
ps:
http://www.intel.com/design/chipsets/sp … 313057.htm
in the pdf file, at page 11, there is info showing 2824h id, god knows when intel add this to its driver package.

Thanks to fernando providing links. smile.

Last edited by Lancelot (2008-07-09 10:40:59)

Re: [IMPL] Intel Matrix Storage v8.6.0.1007 10/12/2008

I made adds to iaahci.inf and txtsetup.oem to make ICH8_Ahci support

http://www.filefactory.com/file/a313bb/n/ICH8_Ahci_rar

includes 2 files:
Intel_textmode_drivers_32bit_v8.2.3.1001_repacked_by_Fernando_Added_ICH8_Ahci_Support.rar
7.8.0.1012_Added_ICH8_Ahci_Support.rar

i tested both with bartpe (regular) and worked perfectly.

please check my work, as i am not an expert about the subject.

Thanks to Galapo, Fernando, Jaak, cdob and all others.

Re: [IMPL] Intel Matrix Storage v8.6.0.1007 10/12/2008

use the DriverPacks plugin for bartpe now that we have it added to the packs

see my signature.

(base program uses the hwids listed in the mass storage INI for bartpe and for windows sliptreaming)
(so add the hwid to the appropriate massstorage.ini section if it is not already there)

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Re: [IMPL] Intel Matrix Storage v8.6.0.1007 10/12/2008

here is another hwid for ICH9R i guess, just seen this and posted here for support (i guess not included in  DriverPacks 805)
http://www.msfn.org/board/Integration-o … ntry780647

Re: [IMPL] Intel Matrix Storage v8.6.0.1007 10/12/2008

I just wish Intel could fix their own mess...

Re: [IMPL] Intel Matrix Storage v8.6.0.1007 10/12/2008

JakeLD wrote:

I just wish Intel could fix their own mess...

I understand:
There are two departments: one hardware department and another driver department.
Intel driver dosn't support all hardware possibilities. AHCI mode is missing at some hardware. There are no technical reasons, it's about marketing.
A OEM or end user may use AHCI at own risk.


Well, I read some Intel pdf (written by hardware department) and compared 8.05 driverpack (based on driver department).
Thanks to Lancelot for ICH8 link.
 

ICH5  http://www.intel.com/assets/pdf/specupdate/252517.pdf
24DB  IDE
24D1  SATA ICH5 only
24DF  SATA ICH5R only
 
ICH6  http://www.intel.com/assets/pdf/specupdate/301474.pdf
266F  IDE
2651  SATA ICH6
2652  SATA ICH6R
2653  SATA ICH6-M
 
ICH7  http://www.intel.com/Assets/PDF/specupdate/307014.pdf
27C0  Desktop Non-AHCI and Non-RAID Mode
27C1  Desktop AHCI Mode
27C3  Desktop RAID Mode
27C4  Mobile Non-AHCI and Non-RAID Mode
27C5  Mobile AHCI Mode
27C6  ICH7M DH RAID Mode
 
ICH8  http://www.intel.com/Assets/PDF/specupdate/313057.pdf
2820  Desktop Non-AHCI and Non-RAID Mode
2821  Desktop AHCI Mode supporting 6 ports
2822  Desktop RAID 0/1/5 Mode
2824  Desktop AHCI Mode supporting 4 ports
2828  Mobile Non-AHCI and Non-RAID Mode
2829  Mobile AHCI Mode
282A  Mobile RAID 0/1 Mode
2825  Desktop Non-AHCI and Non-RAID Mode
 
ICH9  http://www.intel.com/Assets/PDF/specupdate/316973.pdf
2920  Desktop Non-AHCI and Non-RAID Mode (Ports 0,1, 2 and 3)
2921  Desktop Non-AHCI and Non-RAID Mode (Ports 0 and 1)
2922  Desktop AHCI Mode (Ports 0-5)
2923  Desktop AHCI Mode (Ports 0,1,4 and 5)
2822  Desktop RAID 0/1/5/10 Mode
2926  Desktop Non-AHCI and Non-RAID Mode (Ports 4 and 5)
 
ICH10 http://www.intel.com/Assets/PDF/specupdate/319974.pdf
3A20  Non-AHCI and Non-RAID Mode (Ports 0,1, 2 and 3)
3A22  AHCI Mode (Ports 0-5)
3A25  RAID 0/1/5/10 mode
3A26  Non-AHCI and Non-RAID Mode (Ports 4 and 5)

Therefore missing addon:
[to I1] PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_24D1&CC_0106
[to I2] PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2651&CC_0106
[to I3] PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2824&CC_0106
[to I3] PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2923&CC_0106

and all ICH10

Be aware: settings are not tested.

Re: [IMPL] Intel Matrix Storage v8.6.0.1007 10/12/2008

Thanks cdob - you da man!

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Re: [IMPL] Intel Matrix Storage v8.6.0.1007 10/12/2008

8.06F (11 JULY 2008)
http://dev.driverpacks.thesneaky.com/dr … 32_806F.7z


Changed
'[I3] Intel Maxtrix Storage 09/29/2007,7.8.0.1012, keep support for hardware not covered by new intel driver.'.

'|[AD2] removed'.
'|[IB4] removed'.
'|[IB5] removed'.
'|[V], [V1],and [V3] full content from set of original downloads for Via Hyperion 5.18a',

Fixed
'',

New
'[ADC] Adaptec SAS/SATA-II RAID for server 2003, 02/08/2008,5.2.0.15728'.
'|[D4] Dell/Adaptec CERC SATA 2s Controller for 2K/2K3 [PowerEdge 1420SC, 1800, 420SC, 800, SC1425]'.
'|[H3K] Highpoint RocketRaid RR182x/181x for windows 2000'.
'|[H3S] Highpoint RocketRaid RR182x/181x for windows 2003'.
'|[I4] Matrix Storage 06/11/2008,8.2.3.1001',


Updated
'[ADB] Adaptec SAS/SATA-II RAID for XP, from 09/15/2007, 5.2.0.15317 to 02/08/2008, 5.2.0.15728'.
'|[J] JMicron JMB36X from 04/03/2008, 1.17.33.03 to 06/17/2008, 1.17.38.05',

Re: [IMPL] Intel Matrix Storage v8.6.0.1007 10/12/2008

D4, two generic, they will cause problem
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_24DF,PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_25B0,

The answer was 42?
Kind regards, Jaak.

Re: [IMPL] Intel Matrix Storage v8.6.0.1007 10/12/2008

Indeed, I noticed that as well but we still need that driver, what do you suggest ?

Re: [IMPL] Intel Matrix Storage v8.6.0.1007 10/12/2008

prune hwids from the oldest if it becomes an issue

PnP may automaticaly choose the better driver and we may not have to wrooy about it at all...

lets test it and see..

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Re: [IMPL] Intel Matrix Storage v8.6.0.1007 10/12/2008

oldest is reference intel 5.5
adaptec copied those?

we have to choose between reference generic (with CC_104) or a third party with generic.

we have an issue with an LSI (simmpi simmpy simmp1) wich misbehaves (a coded temp copy routine in the inf most likely) and in PE it adds a space when you nor I can find duped in an INF nor INI.

D4 will create an issue.
in INI, snub the two HWIDs.
in PnP, the reference (well, we broke signing for the syspreppers by renaming the iastor55 inf and sys.) the adaptec will win war in PnP.

what do we do? Renaming a sys and so on was never a good idea?

The answer was 42?
Kind regards, Jaak.

Re: [IMPL] Intel Matrix Storage v8.6.0.1007 10/12/2008

JakeLD:
still some intel ich hwid that arent before used (i looked only for 2824) missing in
DP_MassStorage_wnt5_x86-32_806F.7z
as cdob  wrote at Posts: 56  (i use [to I3] PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2824&CC_0106 on my hardware :>)

only reminding smile

Re: [IMPL] Intel Matrix Storage v8.6.0.1007 10/12/2008

So does ICH8 support AHCI mode with this updated pack?

I have a Gigabyte P965 motherboard. Currently I have listed under IDE controllers the following:

Intel ICH8 2 port serial Serial ATA storage controller - 2825
Intel ICH8 4 port serial Serial ATA storage controller - 2820

Re: [IMPL] Intel Matrix Storage v8.6.0.1007 10/12/2008

Interesting

Intel bundles WHQL builds of matrix storage with it's vista only turbo memory driver - HOWEVER - the IaStor portion are universal 32bit (and fully XP compatible) releases where the installer will update the matrix storage portion on XP without issue.

http://www.station-drivers.com/page/intel%20chipset.htm -> Turbo Memory Version 1.7.0.1022-8.5.0.1030

This includes a matrix storage driver v8.5.0.1030, extracted from your \WINDOWS\Temp directory in a folder called IIF2 once you run the installer.

Perhaps not something to put in an official driverpack, this is might be something to play with in nightlies.

EDIT: v8.5 is not digitally signed so no WHQL, sorry!



Helmi:
Tried to fix your second link but even manually putting the URL tags does not help.
Forum does not like brackets in links, I guess.

second link is not liked by punbb at all lol ... I used the quote box so we can at least cut and paste it big_smile
Jeff [AKA OverFlow]

Last edited by Helmi (2008-07-24 07:18:57)