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Topic: [IMPL] BASE textmode integration deletes certain textmode entries

Hello, me again!

I wrote an Addon Pack that integrates an INF file during textmode, but DriverPacks seems to be interfering with it.


I made an ISO, everything worked fine in the VM. No errors in the setup log. Everything was perfect.


Then when I integrated DriverPacks, I got this:

http://xpdnc.org/hosted/images/2009/2b37eb2cfa6007f3c683a5807c89113c1116d0d5.gif


Naturally, I checked SourceDiskFiles, and apparently DriverPacks BASE is removing the reference to it from that section. Here is how it's referenced:

ultradfg.inf = 100,,,,,,_x,,3,3

BASE seems to be removing that line, for whatever reason. I'm guessing it has something to do with (a) the file isn't compressed, and (b), the file isn't copied to the local drive (e.g., the INF folder). I tried renaming the file to *.SIF to see if that would fix the issue, and it didn't. So I renamed it to *.WTF, and that didn't work either. So BASE isn't freaking out on the filetype. It's getting angry with the entry itself.

I've tested this precise issue at least half a dozen times. I'm positive it's DP Base that's causing the problem.


If it helps, this is where I'm using the INF file (these sections are in TXTSETUP.SIF):

[HiveInfs.Fresh]
AddReg = hivedef.inf,AddReg
AddReg = hivesys.inf,AddReg
AddReg = hivesft.inf,AddReg
AddReg = hivecls.inf,AddReg
AddReg = hiveusd.inf,AddReg
AddReg = dmreg.inf,DM.AddReg
AddReg = ultradfg.inf,UD.AddReg

[HiveInfs.Fresh.RemoteBoot]
AddReg = hivesys.inf,AddReg.RemoteBoot

[HiveInfs.Upgrade]
DelReg = hivesft.inf,DelRegFirst
DelReg = hivedef.inf,DelReg
AddReg = hivedef.inf,AddReg
DelReg = hivesys.inf,DelReg
AddReg = hivesys.inf,AddReg
AddReg = hivesys.inf,AddReg.Upgrade
DelReg = hivesft.inf,DelReg
AddReg = hivesft.inf,AddReg
AddReg = hivesft.inf,AddReg.Upgrade
DelReg = hivecls.inf,DelReg
AddReg = hivecls.inf,AddReg
AddReg = hiveusd.inf,AddReg
DelReg = dmreg.inf,DM.DelReg
AddReg = dmreg.inf,DM.AddReg
AddReg = ultradfg.inf,UD.AddReg

Here are the contents of the INF file:

[Version]
Signature = "$Windows NT$"
DriverVer=05/13/2009,3.1

[UD.AddReg]
HKLM,"SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\ultradfg",,0x00000012
HKLM,"SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\ultradfg","DisplayName",0x00000000,"Ultra Defrag"
HKLM,"SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\ultradfg","ErrorControl",0x00010001,0
HKLM,"SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\ultradfg","ImagePath",0x00020000,"system32\DRIVERS\ultradfg.sys"
HKLM,"SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\ultradfg","Start",0x00010001,3
HKLM,"SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\ultradfg","Type",0x00010001,1
HKLM,"SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\CrashControl","AutoReboot",0x00010001,0

HKLM,"SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Enum\Root\LEGACY_ULTRADFG",,0x00000012
HKLM,"SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Enum\Root\LEGACY_ULTRADFG","NextInstance",0x00010001,1
HKLM,"SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Enum\Root\LEGACY_ULTRADFG\0000",,0x00000012
HKLM,"SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Enum\Root\LEGACY_ULTRADFG\0000","Class",0x00000000,"LegacyDriver"
HKLM,"SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Enum\Root\LEGACY_ULTRADFG\0000","ClassGUID",0x00000000,"{8ECC055D-047F-11D1-A537-0000F8753ED1}"
HKLM,"SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Enum\Root\LEGACY_ULTRADFG\0000","ConfigFlags",0x00010001,0
HKLM,"SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Enum\Root\LEGACY_ULTRADFG\0000","DeviceDesc",0x00000000,"Ultra Defrag"
HKLM,"SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Enum\Root\LEGACY_ULTRADFG\0000","Legacy",0x00010001,1
HKLM,"SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Enum\Root\LEGACY_ULTRADFG\0000","Service",0x00000000,"ultradfg"
HKLM,"SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Enum\Root\LEGACY_ULTRADFG\0000\Control",,0x00000012
HKLM,"SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Enum\Root\LEGACY_ULTRADFG\0000\Control","*NewlyCreated*",0x00010001,0
HKLM,"SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Enum\Root\LEGACY_ULTRADFG\0000\Control","ActiveService",0x00000000,"ultradfg"

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Re: [IMPL] BASE textmode integration deletes certain textmode entries

Well you did not state which BASE or DriverPack MassStorage version so I will assume 8.12x BASE and 9.01 Mass (latest releases)
(demerit awarded wink lol)

since ultradfg is not found in DriverPack MassStorage ver 9.01 there is no reason it would be altered by base...


Only files who match the ms_1_tag= line are ever altered... and only if the ms_1_exc_disableIfOS= line is not set...
Not only is that not a related file name BUT *.INF files are never touched, only *.sys references...
Hint: use examdiff on the file before and after DriverPacks... Both with and without your addon (three tests)

IDK how the two things could possably be related ??? and nothing you mentioned so far leads us to any answer.


It seems to me you probably should break the rules in this case, run your addon after DriverPacks... What happens?

Does this only happen with a particular mass storage pack... Or with any? Which ones? Which version of DriverPacks BASE are you using?


Check read before you post and update some details and try the above ideas...
IE let's see your DPs_BASE.log please

thanks for reporting.

PS what were the lines preceding and following the ultradfg.inf = 100,,,,,,_x,,3,3 line? (just a few both ways please, obviously we need before and after DriverPacks)

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Re: [IMPL] BASE textmode integration deletes certain textmode entries

thinking... ultradfg.inf = 100,,,,,,_x,,3,3

position 1 = 100 means SP1 file
position 7 = _x   means Source is the windows CD
position 8 is blank and is the destination directory ???
Position 9 = 3  means Upgrade code 3 never copy

did i read that right?

Just delete that line it is a file copy instruction that says not to copy a file...
that is just silly wink get rid of that line!

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Re: [IMPL] BASE textmode integration deletes certain textmode entries

Your analysis of the file is what I figured the BASE (I'm using the latest Nightlies, by the way; I should have mentioned that) was doing as well. The file looks like it's not needed, but it actually is. You can actually add entries to the Windows Registry during TEXTMODE setup.

Other examples:

hivecls.inf  = 100,,,,,,_x,,3,3
hivedef.inf  = 100,,,,,,_x,,3,3
hivesft.inf  = 100,,,,,,_x,,3,3
hivesys.inf  = 100,,,,,,_x,,3,3

BASE doesn't touch those, however.


"Breaking the rules" solved the issue. If you're still interested in troubleshooting it, however, I can get you the DIFF and LOG files that you're requesting. I'd like to wait until I get my laptop (the one mentioned in my other thread) up and running before I do that, however, because the computer I'm on is an Athlon XP 2600+ sad.



edit--
Also, _x means that the file is not compressed (it's *.INF not *.IN_). So yes, in a manner of speaking, that can be translated as "Source is a Windows CD," but I never really thought of it like that. It makes sense, though.


edit2--
There is also an associated *.SYS file with the INF. There is ultradfg.INF and ultradfg.SYS. I'm integrating Ultra Defrag 3.

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Re: [IMPL] BASE textmode integration deletes certain textmode entries

Yes I am interested in knowing how the conflict occurs... If you will be willing to help us to help you, that just rocks wink

There is also an associated *.SYS file with the INF. There is ultradfg.INF and ultradfg.SYS.

DriverPacks BASE is only supposed to alter files marked as replace in the mass ini...
DriverPacks BASE is only supposed to add files not excluded with a skip tag
DriverPacks BASE will only modify files that are listed in the mass ini as "TAG" in the format TAG.sy?

since your filename ultradfg does not exist in the mass INI anywhere at all it would never be in the list for any file operations.
Only listed files are altered in any way wink

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Re: [IMPL] BASE textmode integration deletes certain textmode entries

I think i just figured this one out...

dosnet and txtsetup are restored from backup if DriverPacks BASE detects it was previously run.
It is possable that you relipstreamed into a source that was previously "BASEd"...
On the subsequent run txtsetup.org and dosnet.org are restored to txtsetup.sif and dosnet.inf...

the .org files may have been created before you mad your "additions"... what do you think?

Just a thought...

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Re: [IMPL] BASE textmode integration deletes certain textmode entries

Definitely not. I had run it through many times completely from scratch, and when I say "from scratch," I mean from extracting the TechNet ISO (SHA1: 66ac289ae27724c5ae17139227cbe78c01eefe40) to RVMi with just my addon, to DriverPacks BASE.

But just for you, I ran it again on an install I created with all of my updates and whatnot. As you'll see below, no previous driver packs had been integrated. Upon using DriverPacks BASE to integrate some driverpacks, the entries for my defragmenting program are removed from TXTSETUP.SIF.


DPs_BASE.log

2009-10-25 13:29:45 : <INIT> DriverPacks BASE 9.02.0.1 initialized.
2009-10-25 13:29:45 : <INIT> Host environment: WIN_XP Service Pack 2 X86 on a X86 CPU.
2009-10-25 13:29:45 : <INIT> Created temporary working directory.
2009-10-25 13:29:45 : <INIT> Imported proxy settings from Internet Explorer.
2009-10-25 13:29:45 : <INIT> Start scanning for DriverPacks for the wnt5_x86-32 platform.
2009-10-25 13:29:45 : <INIT> 	Detected DriverPack Chipset 909r1!
2009-10-25 13:29:45 : <INIT> 	Detected DriverPack CPU 90701!
2009-10-25 13:29:45 : <INIT> 	Detected DriverPack Graphics A 910rc1!
2009-10-25 13:29:45 : <INIT> 	Detected DriverPack Graphics B 910rc1!
2009-10-25 13:29:45 : <INIT> 	Detected DriverPack Graphics C 910rc1!
2009-10-25 13:29:45 : <INIT> 	Detected DriverPack LAN 908n3!
2009-10-25 13:29:45 : <INIT> 	Detected DriverPack MassStorage 909r6!
2009-10-25 13:29:45 : <INIT> 	Detected DriverPack Sound A 90902!
2009-10-25 13:29:45 : <INIT> 	Detected DriverPack Sound B 90903!
2009-10-25 13:29:45 : <INIT> 	Detected DriverPack WLAN 90807!
2009-10-25 13:29:45 : <INIT> 	Detected 3rd Party DriverPack Bluetooth 081028!
2009-10-25 13:29:45 : <INIT> 	Detected 3rd Party DriverPack Broadband 70416!
2009-10-25 13:29:45 : <INIT> 	Detected 3rd Party DriverPack Graphics A PhysX 906!
2009-10-25 13:29:45 : <INIT> 	Detected 3rd Party DriverPack Graphics Languages 906!
2009-10-25 13:29:45 : <INIT> 	Detected 3rd Party DriverPack HID 90813!
2009-10-25 13:29:45 : <INIT> 	Detected 3rd Party DriverPack Input 070923!
2009-10-25 13:29:45 : <INIT> 	Detected 3rd Party DriverPack Misc 90813!
2009-10-25 13:29:45 : <INIT> 	Detected 3rd Party DriverPack Modem 90805!
2009-10-25 13:29:45 : <INIT> 	Detected 3rd Party DriverPack Monitor 90808!
2009-10-25 13:29:45 : <INIT> 	Detected 3rd Party DriverPack Phone 80207!
2009-10-25 13:29:45 : <INIT> 	Detected 3rd Party DriverPack PrintersCanonInkjet 61105!
2009-10-25 13:29:45 : <INIT> 	Detected 3rd Party DriverPack PrintersCanonLaserjet 61020!
2009-10-25 13:29:45 : <INIT> 	Detected 3rd Party DriverPack PrintersHP 71126!
2009-10-25 13:29:45 : <INIT> 	Detected 3rd Party DriverPack Scanner 60831!
2009-10-25 13:29:45 : <INIT> 	Detected 3rd Party DriverPack SmartCardReader 80228!
2009-10-25 13:29:45 : <INIT> 	Detected 3rd Party DriverPack TouchScreen 708!
2009-10-25 13:29:45 : <INIT> 	Detected 3rd Party DriverPack TV 90812!
2009-10-25 13:29:45 : <INIT> 	Detected 3rd Party DriverPack USB 80911!
2009-10-25 13:29:45 : <INIT> 	Detected 3rd Party DriverPack Virtual 90225!
2009-10-25 13:29:46 : <INIT> 	Detected 3rd Party DriverPack WebCam 90706!
2009-10-25 13:29:46 : <INIT> 	Finished scanning.
2009-10-25 13:29:46 : <INIT> Detected settings file "F:\DDUXPCD\DriverPacks\DPs_BASE.ini".
2009-10-25 13:29:46 : <INIT> wnt5_x86-32_StandAloneDrivers is the selected installation platform .
2009-10-25 13:29:46 : <INIT> Imported settings from settings file.
2009-10-25 13:29:46 : <GUI>  Initialized GUI.
2009-10-25 13:29:46 : <GUI>  Created a list of all available language files.
2009-10-25 13:29:46 : <GUI>  Set the last used language, English, as the GUI language.
2009-10-25 13:29:50 : <GUI>  Refreshed UpdateChecker with success.
2009-10-25 13:30:01 : <GUI>  No OS could be detected.
2009-10-25 13:30:01 : <GUI>  any_any_any is the selected installation platform .
2009-10-25 13:30:01 : <GUI>  Changed installation platform from "StandAloneDrivers" to "disc".
2009-10-25 13:30:15 : <GUI>  Changed Windows installation files OR export (depending on the installation platform) location to F:\DDUXPCD\WinXP_wSP3.
2009-10-25 13:30:15 : <GUI>  Windows XP Professional -  Retail SP3 detected.
2009-10-25 13:30:15 : <GUI>  wnt5_x86-32_disc is the selected installation platform .
2009-10-25 13:31:24 : <GUI>  Exported settings to F:\DDUXPCD\DriverPacks\MassStorage-NoKTD-NoQSC-NoROE.ini.
2009-10-25 13:31:30 : <GUI>  Saved settings!
2009-10-25 13:31:30 : <GUI>  Closed GUI.
2009-10-25 13:31:30 : <SEL>  Selected module: mod_slip_wxp_x86-32_disc_m2.
2009-10-25 13:31:35 : <PREP> Removed all attributes from \I386.
2009-10-25 13:31:35 : <PREP> No previous DriverPacks installation found, Prep stage will be skipped
2009-10-25 13:31:46 : <SLIP> Extracted DriverPack MassStorage to a temporary working directory.
2009-10-25 13:31:46 : <SLIP> F:\DDUXPCD\DriverPacks\tmp\DPMtmp\DriverPack_MassStorage_wnt5_x86-32.ini
2009-10-25 13:31:48 : <SLIP> Processing the files now. This may take a minute.
2009-10-25 13:32:22 : <SLIP> Slipstreamed DriverPack MassStorage text mode driver files.
2009-10-25 13:32:22 : <SLIP> txtsetup.sif Backed-up Successfully
2009-10-25 13:32:22 : <SLIP> dosnet.inf Backed-up Successfully
2009-10-25 13:32:32 : <SLIP> Removed entries from \I386\txtsetup.sif that will be updated.
2009-10-25 13:32:33 : <SLIP> Removed entries from \I386\dosnet.inf that will be updated.
2009-10-25 13:33:53 : <SLIP> Updated \I386\dosnet.inf and \I386\txtsetup.sif to support DP MassStorage text mode drivers.
2009-10-25 13:33:53 : <SLIP> Created necessary directory structure for method 2.
2009-10-25 13:33:53 : <SLIP> Copying files necessary for method 2.
2009-10-25 13:33:54 : <SLIP> Extracted additional files necessary for method 2.
2009-10-25 13:33:54 : <SLIP> expanded setup.ex_ to setuporg.exe
2009-10-25 13:33:54 : <SLIP> SETUP.EX_ Backed-up Successfully
2009-10-25 13:33:55 : <SLIP> Compressed setup.exe to SETUP.EX_.
2009-10-25 13:33:55 : <SLIP> Method 2 setup.ex_ installed
2009-10-25 13:33:55 : <SLIP> Created \I386\presetup.cmd file.
2009-10-25 13:33:55 : <SLIP> Updated \I386\txtsetup.sif to support method 2.
2009-10-25 13:33:55 : <SLIP> Updated \I386\dosnet.inf to support method 2.
2009-10-25 13:33:55 : <SLIP> Copied DriverPack MassStorage to \OEM.
2009-10-25 13:33:55 : <SLIP> Copied DriverPacks to \OEM.
2009-10-25 13:33:55 : <SLIP> Will not slipstream patches, Service Pack 3 was detected.
2009-10-25 13:33:55 : <SLIP> Will not slipstream KB888111 because no Sound DriverPack is being slipstreamed
2009-10-25 13:33:55 : <SLIP> Will not slipstream KB883667 because no Graphics DriverPack is being slipstreamed
2009-10-25 13:33:55 : <SLIP> WINNT.SIF Backed-up Successfully
2009-10-25 13:33:55 : <SLIP> Updated \I386\winnt.sif to support method 2.
2009-10-25 13:33:55 : <SLIP> Updated DPsFnshr.ini to disable KTD.
2009-10-25 13:33:56 : <SLIP> DP_Install_Tool was copied successfully
2009-10-25 13:33:56 : <SLIP> Slipstream finished in 2 minutes and 26 seconds.
2009-10-25 13:33:58 : <CLNP> Temporary working directory successfully deleted.
- = DriverPacks BASE ini settings used = -
[General]
; preferred language
prefLang	= "English"
; yes/no, enable or disable the wizard-style buttons, if not specified: yes
wizardButtons	= "yes"
; yes/no, enable or disable the GUI, if not specified: yes
GUI		= "yes"


[Settings]
; disc/bartpe/multibootDisc
instPlatform	= "disc"
; trailing backslash is allowed, but not necessary
location	= "F:\DDUXPCD\WinXP_wSP3"
; none/all/select, if select, specify them below, if not specified: all
DriverPacks	= "select"
; 1/2, method to install the DriverPacks, if not specified: 2
DPsMethod	= "2"
; GUIRunOnce/RunOnceEx/custom, if not specified: GUIRunOnce
finisherMethod	= "custom"


; this section is optional!
[OptionalSettings]
; none/all/select/paths/patterns, enable or disable Keep The Drivers (KTD) , if not specified: none
KTD		= "false"
; <path>, to specify a custom KTD cache location, if not specified: default (%SystemRoot%\DriverPacks)
KTDlocation	= "%SystemRoot%\DriverPacks"
; yes/no, enable or disable QuickStream Cache (QSC), if not specified: yes
QSC		= "no"


; you should only add this section if you've set [Settings]\DriverPacks to "select"
[SelectDriverPacks]
DP_Chipset	= "no"
DP_CPU		= "no"
DP_Graphics_A	= "no"
DP_Graphics_B	= "no"
DP_Graphics_C	= "no"
DP_LAN		= "no"
DP_MassStorage	= "yes"
DP_Sound_A	= "no"
DP_Sound_B	= "no"
DP_WLAN		= "no"
DPs_3rd_party	= "no"
DP_MassStorage_textmode = "yes"


; this section is optional!
[OptionalSettingsOther]
; CCC/CCP/None, use ATI Catalyst Control Center or ATI Catalyst Control Panel (only relevant when slipstreaming Graphics DriverPack)
; 1/2/3/None, use Nvidia Control Panel - 1 = Old, 2 = New, 3 = Both, None
ATI_cpl		= "CCC"
Nvidia_cpl	= "2"
2009-10-25 13:33:59 : <CLNP> Create a DPs_Base.log backup @ F:\DDUXPCD\DriverPacks\LogFiles\DPs_BASE_09-10-25_13-33.log
2009-10-25 13:33:59 : <CLNP> Program terminated.

-- link/image removed because I deleted the files on my server to avoid clutter --


My conclusion is that it's a bug. I'm more than willing to provide you with my AddOn if you want to test it yourself. For now I'm just integrating the AddOn after DriverPacks BASE and all is well.

Last edited by dumpydooby (2009-10-26 09:53:07)

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Re: [IMPL] BASE textmode integration deletes certain textmode entries

Thanks DD,

Looks like a bug, quacks like a bug... must be a bug. smile

I'm on it!

PS full logging may help me.

"dps_base /debug"


PS Yes! Please get me your addon for testing! ( i could even chek my own log then wink)

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Re: [IMPL] BASE textmode integration deletes certain textmode entries

I'm updating a bunch of programs for another disc right now. Once I finish, I'll make a new ISO and run DP again but with the debug option. I'll give you a full a log. Until then, here's my AddOn: http://xp.xpdnc.org/files/AddOns/UltraD … 0.17.0.zip

[offtopic] I do recommend using that defrag program. It's pretty awesome. It's open source and has offline defrag support. That's not to mention that it weighs in at under 1MB. [/offtopic]

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Re: [IMPL] BASE textmode integration deletes certain textmode entries

I like O&O I used to like norton... before it became Semantec...

Ill give it a shot... since it looks like i will be slipstreaming it anyway wink.

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Re: [IMPL] BASE textmode integration deletes certain textmode entries

oh yeah. lol.

I submitted a formal bug report. I marked it as "major" since it yields a non-functional disc, but perhaps it's a "minor" issue because it's very uncommon.

Keep me posted on what happens, yeah? I'm at least interested in confirming that it's not just me.

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Re: [IMPL] BASE textmode integration deletes certain textmode entries

Sure thing! I hate BUGS almost as much as I hate OPEN TICKETS.

coffee, check...
BASE source, check...
ultra defrag, check...
vmware, check...
Windows XP Professional -  Retail SP3, check...

Ill respond to the bugtracker report when I confirm your result!

PS Thanks for putting a ticket in over at the bugtracker!

yeah since you end up with GARBAGE that makes it "critical"... even of the occurance level is low wink.
since it causes a "critical error"

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Re: [IMPL] BASE textmode integration deletes certain textmode entries

Woo Hoo,

I got a second report of a similar issue and it put me over the top on finding the culprit code!!!!

I posted my findings in the other thread here http://forum.driverpacks.net/viewtopic. … 093#p36093

Good news!!!

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Re: [IMPL] BASE textmode integration deletes certain textmode entries

Hey DD did you ever test my nightly DriverPacks BASE?

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Re: [IMPL] BASE textmode integration deletes certain textmode entries

The nightlies website went down before I ever got a chance. Haven't been able to find it since then.


But I'm confident it works. Sounds like it was an easy fix.


Thanks a bunch for the help.


(apologies for the very delayed response.)