chumps at Microsoft messed me about again with Creators Edition,
Win 10 1703 OS Build 15063 comes back with no graphics driver.

for older AMD kit you need

AMD-Radeon-Software-Crimson-Edition-16.2.1-for-Non-GCN-Products … Notes.aspx

using above link once unwrapped you actually get a driver  15.31.1901 non whql dated 26/Feb/2016

ChiefZeke wrote:

Windows XP SP4 v3.1a is available for downloads at the Ryan forum:

The author of this service pack says it's his last.

tried this on an unloved version of XP I have lying around, the precautionary steps was interesting, one bit you delete the other you have to manually clean up garbage to stop issues....  BUT I'd fixed a network issue with - Windows Repair 3.9.17  tool - and the folder needing manual clean up was already tip top without any erroneous garbage that needed cleaning

3.1a went on with one or two tiny messages through process, rebooted no ill effects, seems good :-)

chumps at Microsoft messed me about

Installed 64 bit anniversary edition yesterday Win10 1607 14393 187 and it comes back with a non working graphics driver much like I describe above says its got 16.21 and another tab of the same window says no driver installed (and what you have doesn't work, stuck on low res etc.).

Used latest SDI (R496 sept 2016) and it offers to install the same non working one or lots older and NOT the one AMD recco From AMD site … Notes.aspx

using above link once unwrapped you actually get a driver  15.31.1901 non whql dated 26/Feb/2016  (which is not in SDI)

AMD Radeon™ R5 235X, Radeon™ R5 235, Radeon™ R5 230, Radeon™ R5 220, Radeon™ HD 8470, Radeon™ HD 8350, Radeon™ HD 8000 (D/G variants), Radeon™ HD 7000 Series (HD 7600 and below), Radeon™ HD 6000 Series, and Radeon™ HD 5000 Series Graphics products have been moved to a legacy support model and no additional driver releases are planned. This change enables us to dedicate valuable engineering resources to developing new features and enhancements for graphics products based on the GCN Architecture.

As a courtesy to our valued supporters we are providing a final Beta driver together with the release of the AMD Radeon Software Crimson Edition. The AMD Radeon Software Crimson Edition Beta driver includes the redesigned user interface as well as some enhanced features. More information can be found in the AMD Radeon Software Crimson Edition 16.2.1 for Non GCN Products Release Notes. This driver is provided "as is" and will not be supported with further updates, upgrades or bug fixes.

thanks OverFlow,

yes sorry, 64 bit (win 10 pro)

Have issue with all recent SDI versions, AMD have dropped support for 6800 graphics driver last one that's OK is Aug 2015

I'm running Win10 Pro 64 bit 1511   10586. 545

but SDI is coming up saying a new one is available, you run SDI and then PC comes up driver not installed.  Then on reboot clearly no driver working and screen on basic res.  Yet you can't do anything to fix as parts say its on the PC and happy !!! but clearly not working.  When you try Microsoft update it comes back saying best one is installed but of course its not working.  I ended up going to AMD site and getting the old one (which is same all SDI full packs from 2015 have)

I hoped SDI sorted in later graphics pack updates indeed they updated overall AMD graphics pack twice since I found this issue.  But all versions install a driver that doesn't work even when you tick expert mode and see hardware ID matches and its claiming to be perfect match.

Done this twice now and its no good Jul, Aug and now Sept versions of SDI   all U/S  AMD July 2016 driver is no good

this is the one that's OK   15.200.1062.1004  for this

PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_6739&SUBSYS_03B41043&REV_00\4&3CE708&0&0008: AMD Radeon HD 6800 Series

install log for driver that's OK

<?xml version="1.0"?>
<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="Report.xml.xsl"?>
<monetreport xmlns:dt="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:datatypes">
    <cmdline>-UI </cmdline>
    <time>09/06/16 17:00:48</time>
     <manufacture>Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.</manufacture>
     <name>AMD Radeon HD 6800 Series</name>
     <manufacture>Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.</manufacture>
	<description>AMD Catalyst Install Manager</description>
	<size>20 </size>
	<description>AMD Display Driver</description>
	<size>90 </size>
	<description>HDMI Audio Driver</description>
	<size>1 </size>
    <hwinfo>Hardware information</hwinfo>
    <existpkg>Existing packages</existpkg>
    <pkg2inst>Packages for install</pkg2inst>
    <pkg2uninst>Packages for uninstall</pkg2uninst>
    <otherdev>Other detected devices</otherdev>
    <errmsg>Error messages</errmsg>
    <chiptype>Chip type</chiptype>
    <chipid>Device ID</chipid>
    <otherhw>Other hardware</otherhw>
    <download>Download packages</download>
    <vendorid>Vendor ID</vendorid>
    <classcode>Class Code</classcode>
    <revisionid>Revision ID</revisionid>
    <ssid>Subsystem ID</ssid>
    <ssvid>Subsystem vendor ID</ssvid>
    <header1>Catalyst™ Install Manager</header1>
    <header2>Installation Report</header2>
    <finalstatus>Final Status:</finalstatus>
    <versionofitem>Version of Item:</versionofitem>

not sure how to query issue I was having with SDI (I get this isn't best forum to report SDI but yet to register with his site)
I downloaded full version start of March this year and on this Dell optiflex 780 all it did was kill it.  I was seeking a tweak in performance as on Win7 its seemed sluggish.  Tried Chipset, USB and Graphics driver updates but crashed and Burnt.  Went round trying one by one and everytime it died.

Gave up and did update to Win10   10586.164   it seems to work well now.  So I'm guessing a lot of the driver pack tweaks (within SDI) since start Jan this year (its lost 500meg of drivers) has knocked out support for much needed HWids

PCI Devices
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2E10&SUBSYS_04201028&REV_03\3&172E68DD&0&00: CPU to IO Controller
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A67&SUBSYS_04201028&REV_02\3&172E68DD&0&D0: Intel(R) ICH10 Family USB Universal Host Controller - 3A67
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A70&SUBSYS_04201028&REV_02\3&172E68DD&0&E0: PCI-to-PCI Bridge
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A14&SUBSYS_04201028&REV_02\3&172E68DD&0&F8: LPC Controller
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2822&SUBSYS_04201028&REV_02\3&172E68DD&0&FA: Intel(R) Desktop/Workstation/Server Express Chipset SATA RAID Controller
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A64&SUBSYS_04201028&REV_02\3&172E68DD&0&E8: Intel(R) ICH10 Family USB Universal Host Controller - 3A64
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2E12&SUBSYS_04201028&REV_03\3&172E68DD&0&10: Intel(R) Q45/Q43 Express Chipset (Microsoft Corporation - WDDM 1.1)
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A69&SUBSYS_04201028&REV_02\3&172E68DD&0&D2: Intel(R) ICH10 Family USB Universal Host Controller - 3A69
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A72&SUBSYS_04201028&REV_02\3&172E68DD&0&E1: PCI-to-PCI Bridge
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A6A&SUBSYS_04201028&REV_02\3&172E68DD&0&EF: Intel(R) ICH10 Family USB Enhanced Host Controller - 3A6A
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A66&SUBSYS_04201028&REV_02\3&172E68DD&0&EA: Intel(R) ICH10 Family USB Universal Host Controller - 3A66
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2E17&SUBSYS_04201028&REV_03\3&172E68DD&0&1B: Intel(R) Management Engine Interface
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2E14&SUBSYS_04201028&REV_03\3&172E68DD&0&18: Intel(R) Management Engine Interface
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A6C&SUBSYS_04201028&REV_02\3&172E68DD&0&D7: Intel(R) ICH10 Family USB Enhanced Host Controller - 3A6C
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A60&SUBSYS_04201028&REV_02\3&172E68DD&0&FB: SM Bus Controller
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_10DE&SUBSYS_02761028&REV_02\3&172E68DD&0&C8: Intel(R) 82567LM-3 Gigabit Network Connection
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2E11&SUBSYS_04201028&REV_03\3&172E68DD&0&08: PCI-to-PCI Bridge
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A68&SUBSYS_04201028&REV_02\3&172E68DD&0&D1: Intel(R) ICH10 Family USB Universal Host Controller - 3A68
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_244E&SUBSYS_04201028&REV_A2\3&172E68DD&0&F0: PCI-to-PCI Bridge
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A65&SUBSYS_04201028&REV_02\3&172E68DD&0&E9: Intel(R) ICH10 Family USB Universal Host Controller - 3A65
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2E16&SUBSYS_04201028&REV_03\3&172E68DD&0&1A: Standard Dual Channel PCI IDE Controller
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A6E&SUBSYS_04201028&REV_02\3&172E68DD&0&D8: High Definition Audio Controller
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2E13&SUBSYS_04201028&REV_03\3&172E68DD&0&11: Intel(R) Q45/Q43 Express Chipset (Microsoft Corporation - WDDM 1.1)
23 matching device(s) found.

USB Devices
USB\VID_0D3D&PID_0001&MI_00\6&1BE7FE28&0&0000               : USB Input Device
USB\ROOT_HUB20\4&244E1552&0                                 : USB Root Hub
USB\VID_148F&PID_7601\1.0                                   : 802.11n USB Wireless LAN Card
USB\VID_0D3D&PID_0001&MI_01\6&1BE7FE28&0&0001               : USB Input Device
USB\ROOT_HUB20\4&35568869&0                                 : USB Root Hub
USB\VID_046D&PID_C03D\5&18BB29D0&0&1                        : USB Input Device
USB\VID_0D3D&PID_0001\5&18BB29D0&0&2                        : USB Composite Device
USB\ROOT_HUB\4&281C4CA4&0                                   : USB Root Hub
USB\ROOT_HUB\4&35CF8E68&0                                   : USB Root Hub
USB\ROOT_HUB\4&211F7785&0                                   : USB Root Hub
USB\ROOT_HUB\4&1F0CB10&0                                    : USB Root Hub
USB\ROOT_HUB\4&10EA4A84&0                                   : USB Root Hub
USB\ROOT_HUB\4&484FDEF&0                                    : USB Root Hub
13 matching device(s) found.

Input Devices
HID\VID_0D3D&PID_0001&MI_01&COL02\7&35812A5A&0&0001         : HID-compliant consumer control device
HID\VID_0D3D&PID_0001&MI_00\7&2F7203D6&0&0000               : HID Keyboard Device
HID\VID_0D3D&PID_0001&MI_01&COL03\7&35812A5A&0&0002         : HID-compliant system controller
HID\VID_046D&PID_C03D\6&684A7A4&0&0000                      : HID-compliant mouse
HID\VID_0D3D&PID_0001&MI_01&COL01\7&35812A5A&0&0000         : HID-compliant mouse
5 matching device(s) found.

ACPI Devices
ACPI\PNP0C01\B                                              : System board
ACPI\PNP0103\2&DABA3FF&1                                    : High precision event timer
ACPI\GENUINEINTEL_-_INTEL64_FAMILY_6_MODEL_23_-_PENTIUM(R)_DUAL-CORE__CPU______E6700__@_3.20GHZ\_1: Pentium(R) Dual-Core  CPU      E6700  @ 3.20GHz
ACPI\GENUINEINTEL_-_INTEL64_FAMILY_6_MODEL_23_-_PENTIUM(R)_DUAL-CORE__CPU______E6700__@_3.20GHZ\_2: Pentium(R) Dual-Core  CPU      E6700  @ 3.20GHz
ACPI\PNP0800\4&D6E5136&0                                    : System speaker
ACPI\PNP0C14\0                                              : Microsoft Windows Management Interface for ACPI
ACPI\PNP0200\4&D6E5136&0                                    : Direct memory access controller
ACPI\PNP0501\1                                              : Communications Port (COM1)
ACPI\PNP0B00\4&D6E5136&0                                    : System CMOS/real time clock
ROOT\ACPI_HAL\0000                                          : ACPI x64-based PC
ACPI\PNP0A03\4                                              : PCI Bus
ACPI\PNP0C0C\2&DABA3FF&1                                    : ACPI Power Button
ACPI_HAL\PNP0C08\0                                          : Microsoft ACPI-Compliant System
ACPI\FIXEDBUTTON\2&DABA3FF&1                                : ACPI Fixed Feature Button
ACPI\PNP0000\4&D6E5136&0                                    : Programmable interrupt controller
ACPI\PNP0C04\4&D6E5136&0                                    : Numeric data processor
ACPI\PNP0100\4&D6E5136&0                                    : System timer
17 matching device(s) found.

HDA Audio
HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_11D4&DEV_194A&SUBSYS_10280420&REV_1004\4&14B6B4F2&0&0201: High Definition Audio Device
1 matching device(s) found.

RAID Devices
    Name: Intel(R) Desktop/Workstation/Server Express Chipset SATA RAID Controller
    Hardware ID's:
    Compatible ID's:
    Name: Standard Dual Channel PCI IDE Controller
    Hardware ID's:
    Compatible ID's:
2 matching device(s) found.

OverFlow wrote:

fixed that wink.

the file is there... I can get it... is it good for U 2?

yes its now available, thanks.  Didn't seem to like win 10, but may just have been slow as ended up with three txt files after I tried with compatibility settings!

Being honest it might have been missing from your sig for 18 months !  Same with other guys that have in their sig.

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I want to post ids for two dell laptops which are not at all happy with the Snappy Driver Installer since they shrank the 12.5 gig version mid Jan this year.  Both crash out after applying any of the last 3 revisions of DP inside the big version of the tool.

But I don't have the ID tool handy


(5 replies, posted in Windows 10 Discussion)

SDI are busy boys, they've have been releasing updated packs like crazy since Dec, must be 4 revisions of driver packs within the full tool.

Last download was quite a bit smaller, looks like they've been deleting "obsolete" or "duplicate" drivers, however its not working.  Its quite amazing who's winning, as Microsoft are chucking new drivers at win 10 builds left right and centre as well

On said laptop, Jan 2016  I got cypress keyboard driver 24/6/15 worked OK, then I guess from DP_Touchpad_Cypress_16000.7z   offered cypress track pad driver of similar age (both signed).  Touchpad was a disaster and couldn't roll back, pad was 100% dead, had to do restore point and now back running Alps dell driver 20 / 7 / 2011    7.1208.1.1.124 which works perfectly.


(5 replies, posted in Windows 10 Discussion)

Shouldn't we have a section for Win10?

I wanted to post info on similar issue with vista and win 7 on a dell laptop with HDMI sound playing up and possible bug in SDI.

Dell Inspiron 1525 laptop, running sigmatel sound card.  I got the free update to Win10 10240 and used driver packs in Snappy driver installer to update everything post install.
I then had issue getting the 10586 update so used media creation tool to force the install of the November release on Win10 its now on 10586.39  I noticed lots of drivers went back to the Windows default ones.
In the mean time Snappy Driver installer was updated to R423 ( which by the way is now on its 3rd update of the driver packs inside). 

Previously SDI was happy to reco lots of new drivers for the Dell 1525.  Since release R423 it shows none as recco updates.  However if you use the advance features there’s an additional option show "worse" (as in less suitable drivers).  It lists all the ones previously available as more suitable but unsigned.  Which doesn't appear to be the case.  All the ones I've subsequently updated are signed.

Yesterday using the 10586.39 version and stock drivers I tried to stream Amazon prime to a Panasonic TV via HDMI.  Just as it had done in Vista and win7 there's no sound.  This is because by default the option to use sound, is not ticked for HDMI Audio.  The issue here is this is not immediately obvious as the ability to do this is never displayed until the Laptop and TV have undertaken a valid handshake protocol (I guess for HDCP).  Once this has happened in Control Panel, Sound options a third device is visible (in my case Panasonic TV) right click and tick “use as default”.  It will then auto switch back and forth between onboard sound (without TV being on HDMI port ), once TV is using same HDMI port, sound is switched off on laptop and comes out on the TV.

However there was a lot of snap crackle and pop on the TV audio (via HDMI).  On earlier versions of windows I’d got sound to function I believe by going back to an older driver.

Default 10586 Win 10 installed drivers I had:

Intel hidef HDMI ver dated 14/12/2009
Sigmatel hidef audio codec ver dated 15/02/2008

Updated Intel to ver dated 15/03/2010,and rebooted, audio crackle over HDMI was a lot worse, remembering older driver was better on vista I wonder if sigmatel lag in the way they do drivers and so the intel one needs to be older ???
Installed the IDT updated driver for sigmatel to ver dated 14/10/2010 rebooted and for 5 mins I thought it had fixed it.  Then it started to crackle but less than any previous configuration, seemed linked to streaming buffering (but it wasn’t buffering so ???)

So updated all chipset and graphics drivers in case this helped.... 
Intel graphic 965 from dated 05/10/12 to dated 27/7/13, after this and chipset rebooted still crackles.

So its possible for the hardware to work just fine, but at the moment under Win10 I’m not there yet.

All drivers I used are signed, but SDI at install says they aren’t.... it seems to be a fault introduced on R423

So the Win8.1 x64 Asus laptop A200 flashed up the latest nag to get Win10

If you win R and type winver you can see what you have.  They were offering the NOV 2015 Threshold 2 version 1511 build 10586.14 so thought I'd give it a go.

All devices seem to have drivers but the graphics has gone poor with overblown contrast, all blacks and white and nothing in between, the wireless is struggling to connect and there some nasty polling / egg timer thing all the time every second or so, checked for updates (got some) rebooted 3 times egg timer still there.

So Earlier had downloaded latest 11.9 gig SDI pack

Ran SDI nearly every driver reco as better than brand new build from MS.

Installed 6 from the chip set driver pack rebooted and the egg timer issue has gone

I then added these
Wireless Qualcomm Atheros from 16/6/15 to 11/9/15
Network Qualcomm Atheros from 16/7/13 to 29/9/15
Bluetooth Qualcomm Atheros from 31/7/13 to 21/9/15

Intel Display Audio (HDMI ?) from 29/08/13 to 09/09/14
Realtek Sound from 11/12/12 to 17/11/15

its working far better... Thanks very much for all your hard work BadPointer to make the tool and all of you for the driver packs !

wow life doesn't stand still, two days later he's posted a new version with these changes (translated from Russian using google)

[r401] (10-11-2015)
• Restored the work program under Windows XP.

[r400] (10-11-2015)
• Improved display prompts at different sizes interface.
• Added the topic "Tweekend SDI".
• Code refactoring.

[r390] (07-11-2015)
• Fixed a bug with reset jackdaws when switching to expert mode.
• Added the ability to change the size of the interface elements. Ctrl + KolosikoMyshi (increase / decrease) and Ctrl + 0 (the default size).

[r388] (06-11-2015)
• Added Czech translation (Lenochod).
• Removed the division into large (16) and small (10). Now all size 14.
• Updated to 1.0.6 libtorrent.
• Updated to 1.59.0 BOOST.
• Updated 7zip to 15.8 Beta.
• Updated to GCC 5.2.0.
• Code refactoring.

maybe you're more clever than me but what I noticed in the full download with all the driverpacks (it does include TV cards) and these DriverPacks updated

Touch Pad from 15104 to 15112
Card reader from 15104 to 15112
all these go from 15111 to 15112
Mass Storage

downloaded the big boy version of this tool all 10 gigs worth and ran it on 3 machines

It's a brilliant, simple tool 10gig on a stick just run the exe, click a few boxes job done!

this was using R326

1 x old win 7 x64 updated all perfectly without any issues or effort.  (lots of kit had later drivers)

1 x new build win 7 32 bit Dell Inspiron laptop.  Again dead simple all seems to be working, picked up calling quite few bits of hardware by different names !!!  I didn't get round to checking HDMI sound or the Webcam microphone.  Webcam comes up as windows generic driver 

1 x Vista 32 bit.  This one seems to come up short.  It doesn't check/come up with any new graphics, network or sound drivers.  (nor TV card but is this in the pack ???) even though the ones on the machine are ancient  And one Intel storage Ultra ATA controller (24DB) came up unsigned and waited for me to confirm go ahead anyway.

1 x Win 10 x64, quick pass on same Dell laptop, it only updated the missing Ricoh card reader and one other (I forget what), which seems odd as it was a clean install of Win 10 Pro x 64 lots of the core hardware had Windows generic drivers dated 2006 !!!

BadPointer wrote:

I suggest reading the "Comparison of Snappy Driver Installer(SDI) and Stand Alone Driverpack(SAD)" section there:

to be totally honest I had same problems Cutlass has been having just last week.

I've used SAD a number of times years ago, with changes in PCs etc. I've lost where I put all my driver packs and how I'd set it up.  I used SAD last weekend and couldn't for the life of me remember how to use it, read the instructions and came out more confused than ever.  Tried a few times and got in all the problems Cutlass has been having. 

Now I find a more idiot friendly tool was out there and I knew NOTHING about it yet its works using driver packs own files!

More Marketing required... (no wonder he's not getting much feedback), thanks for this very useful post BadPointer.

TechDud to the rescue again, thank you !!!

Alienware driver you mentioned
Airgo Networks AGN300 driver doesn't look suitable so didn't try
From that driver, EngineVersion=

Netgear one is suitable but its unsigned and (other than that installed without a fight) as you found shows the same detail for version and build date you say
Netgear has {DriverVer   = 06/30/2005,} available for PCI\VEN_17CB&DEV_0001&SUBSYS_000117CB

under winXP with belkin driver installed
PCI\VEN_17CB&DEV_0001&SUBSYS_000117CB&REV_01\4&2D732E57&0&0058: Belkin Wireless Pre-N Notebook Network Card

Under win7 without a driver
PCI\VEN_17CB&DEV_0001&SUBSYS_000117CB&REV_01\5&25814920&0&0020F0: Ethernet Controller

under win7 uing Netgear driver you found
PCI\VEN_17CB&DEV_0001&SUBSYS_000117CB&REV_01\5&25814920&0&0020F0: Airgo Networks True MIMO (tm) Wireless Adapter

Thanks for your comprehensive help TechDud, the PC's round at my parents will try and look over the weekend

It appears there's no win7 driver (nor vista/win8) only XP, I tried using the SAD with the x 86 WLAN pack but it didn't help.

Its a wireless pre n adaptor that goes in a pcmcia slot (the pcmcia card is picked up by Microsoft update but the adaptor can't find drivers.)  I couldn't get the hardware tool from here, no links working !!! so I looked inside the XP drivers from here … e:Software, Drivers %26 Firmware

stupid .... the space between Software, Drivers    in link above are part of the address, this site takes the space and puts the code tags in the wrong place breaking it, Drivers %26 Firmware

in the inf it says its an

[Manufacturer] [Airgo]
; Display Name         DDInstall Section   hardware id
; ------------           -----------------   -----------
%Belkin.DeviceDesc%   = Airgo.ndi,         PCI\VEN_17CB&DEV_0001&SUBSYS_80101799
%Belkin.DeviceDesc%   = Airgo.ndi,         PCI\VEN_17CB&DEV_0001&SUBSYS_000117CB

is there any drivers that will work ?

forget what you think you know and what you think happened.

You need to start with a good image and modify that. 

A good image means an original Microsoft one where necessary, with Microsoft updates / service packs and possibly a few other well known essentials.  The idea is to make a very robust image to save time, not bring in faults or detritus...
the idea to slipstream extras on to your original Microsoft disc/image is build a robust more up to date image that saves time. adding rubbish is a silly idea. If you still have a good image that's close to original and you just want to update driver packs then follow info in this post.If you have a messed up image with lots of extra rubbish and its playing up.... go back to a good image and start again.

if you have problems start again...

don't continually try to repair a pile of rubbish.

symbios24 wrote:

I did everything correct from the beginning...  before the tune up utlities internal addon as i do always

well there's one of your problems!

try a simple search...  Description: TUProgSt.exe is not essential for Windows and will often cause problems

symbios24 wrote:

Hello i have install it also in some newer machines without a problem anyway lets do it correct how do i add it with dpbase ?

Two points,

1) Overflow suggests you probably don't need to update mass storage...  As you say your current image works on yours and other systems.  So for the kit you are working on you don't need to do anything. The only need to update mass storage would be to work with much newer / current hardware.

2) To update mass storage anyway (and from mr_smartepants last post I think he adds clearer advice, and the way I'd do it) you can have a modified image (e.g. where you have added service packs / updates etc.) its just that you should always start from this point and then add driver packs last... and for your project, you will not have full success unless you add mass storage to a previously unmodified by driver packs image

symbios24, I suspect the frustration from those trying to help you is because you are not getting the message on how complex the integration of the mass storage pack is and therefore what its doing to your install image. 

Overflow is clearly saying do it one way only....

Overflow wrote:

in order to upgrade / swap mass storage you must use DriverPacks BASE to slipstream the new version

your way is wrong.

I'm guessing just because you updated it "your way" and seems OK for you doesn't mean your way "works".  Its probably that you have been very lucky and working on really old hardware where its not needed anyway, so you haven't noticed you now have a dodgy image that will crash out if you ever use on other systems/hardware

why doesn't front page ref this version? … 586#p51586

infact what happed to this one?

:: v130627 v3.0 (Erik Hansen)
:: Added 7zip switch -aoa to enable auto-overwrite mode.
:: Removed Win8 leaked build numbers and added Win8.1 preview build number to detection array.
:: Added DIR to CDROM detection array to prevent errors with card readers in system

Thanks Guys,

by the way this FX5700 gives the same lowest scoring win experience index at 3.3 as an intel 4 series chip in a current Samsung laptop and beats an intel 965 which scraped in at 3.1...

Limits listed above of those 3 systems is the 3D business / gaming graphics, (aero interface got 3.7 on 5700).  does their scoring related to anything realistic in real use?

Hi, I loaded Win7 on old hardware and graphics was not recognised at all.  Win Update didn't offer anything either and when I looked it up on Nvidia site they don't support it for win 7.

But the last win vista driver they do say suits the card works properly and installs without argument.  Without the vista driver it would not wake up after the screen went to sleep and you had to crash out windows and reboot

It was a FX5700, and I had same issue on a FX5200 previously, the same vista driver works fine on both.

PCI Devices 
PCI\VEN_1106&DEV_3038&SUBSYS_30381106&REV_81\3&267A616A&0&80: VIA Rev 5 or later USB Universal Host Controller
PCI\VEN_1106&DEV_3208&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_00\3&267A616A&0&03: VIA Standard Host Bridge
PCI\VEN_1106&DEV_3038&SUBSYS_30381106&REV_81\3&267A616A&0&81: VIA Rev 5 or later USB Universal Host Controller
PCI\VEN_1106&DEV_3227&SUBSYS_32271106&REV_00\3&267A616A&0&88: VIA Standard PCI to ISA Bridge
PCI\VEN_1106&DEV_3038&SUBSYS_30381106&REV_81\3&267A616A&0&82: VIA Rev 5 or later USB Universal Host Controller
PCI\VEN_1106&DEV_4314&SUBSYS_43141106&REV_00\3&267A616A&0&04: VIA Standard Host Bridge
PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0342&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_A1\4&354AEA31&0&0008: NVIDIA GeForce FX 5700
PCI\VEN_1106&DEV_3038&SUBSYS_30381106&REV_81\3&267A616A&0&83: VIA Rev 5 or later USB Universal Host Controller
PCI\VEN_1106&DEV_7314&SUBSYS_73141106&REV_00\3&267A616A&0&07: VIA Standard Host Bridge
PCI\VEN_1106&DEV_0314&SUBSYS_03141106&REV_00\3&267A616A&0&00: VIA Standard Host Bridge
PCI\VEN_1106&DEV_3059&SUBSYS_AA011019&REV_60\3&267A616A&0&8D: Realtek AC'97 Audio for VIA (R) Audio Controller
PCI\VEN_1106&DEV_B198&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_00\3&267A616A&0&08: VIA CPU to AGP Controller
PCI\VEN_1106&DEV_0571&SUBSYS_05711106&REV_06\3&267A616A&0&79: VIA Bus Master IDE Controller - 0571
PCI\VEN_1106&DEV_3065&SUBSYS_01021106&REV_78\3&267A616A&0&90: VIA Rhine II Fast Ethernet Adapter
PCI\VEN_1106&DEV_1314&SUBSYS_13141106&REV_00\3&267A616A&0&01: VIA Standard Host Bridge
PCI\VEN_1106&DEV_3104&SUBSYS_31041106&REV_86\3&267A616A&0&84: VIA USB Enhanced Host Controller
PCI\VEN_1106&DEV_2314&SUBSYS_23141106&REV_00\3&267A616A&0&02: VIA Standard Host Bridge
PCI\VEN_1106&DEV_3149&SUBSYS_31491106&REV_80\3&267A616A&0&78: VIA Serial ATA Controller - 3149
18 matching device(s) found.

driver that Nvidia reco for vista on these cards (can we add it??? I looked at the release for A and B but didn't see if the drivers will be suitable or not)


Microsoft Windows Hardware Compatibility Publisher

... same hardware different result depending on op sys used.

running Vista 32 bit in control panel - sound options, you get 2 devices ALL the time
1) Sigmatel audio
2) Intel HDMI, (HDMI is greyed out but comes alive after handshake)

running Win7 32 bit in control panel - sound options, you get 2 devices
1) Sigmatel audio
2) Sigmatel SPDIF digital output (which I didn't think it had)

after I loaded the older driver on win7 I discovered after handshake a 3rd device pops up in the list - the correct Intel HDMI but was not selected for use.  After selecting it once, it continues to work (like I would expect, automatically doing the right stuff in the background unknown to a user and remains like this after rebooting)

but it still lists 2 devices all the time (one of which shouldn't be there - re reading your last post - maybe it should be there in Vista as well?) a third, (the correct secondary device) appears once HDMI handshake has happened

... I'm happy mines working, I was just keen to know if you could check behaviour of the later Intel driver that was added by the driver pack.  I only got things working with the older one but I learnt something on the journey so maybe the later one works as well once you understand its doesn't come set up right just by installing the driver.