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hi, i'm a little confused when to use this and at what stage,

i have created a system (virtualbox) win7 and ready to sysprep it (ghost the image)

on my host (WAIK & supplement sp1 installed)
and put in MDT 2010 update 1

i'm now in deployworkbench (and there is out of bos drivers)

but this is where i'm lost.

where do i run the script,

can't i just put all the drivers in the deploymentworkbench, or am i completely in the wrong place?

this is the scenario that i'm aiming for.

create a universal image

Virtual Box (windows 7 starter installed)

sysprep this image,

deploy image on Desktop PC's/laptops

upgrade anytime to relevant level (if pc/laptop has key for pro, then upgrade to pro level, then use that key to activate)

of course i wish to insert drivers into the main image itself (i don't wish to utilize network shares for problems like connection issues, or network card not found problems (laptops sometimes use weird network systems))

i want the image to be self sufficient as possible and method 1 seems the best choice

i just don't know where driverpacks fits in, i tried to use winintergrator but my host is XP sp3 so it didn't work (strange as even WAIK and MDT 2010 is compatible with XP sp3 which i was amazed that MS went through that trouble kudos to MS for that)

appreciate any feedback,

thanks.

http://www.vernalex.com/tools/spdrvscn/#instructions

very intuitive, i did email him some time back to see if he would ever update his guide with respect to new utilities such as "Offlinesysprep" and "Mysysprep", he did say he would get round to it, but clearly nothing yet.

i have personally read his guide several times in the past, very intuitive and well written,

you were right, thanks, it took 5 attempts of download, strangely enough though 7Zip extracted without any errors?

anyway the file exists now, just about to create a LiveXP project, thanks bigfoot, I would have never imagined it was a corrupt download, I assumed that 7Zip would always do a full CRC32 check on extraction, any mismatch would lead to an error, clearly I was mistaken. thanks again,

Doesn't DriverPacks have a built in SHA5 or MD hash (or what ever it's called) validator, given the nature of how sensitive these driver packs are....

just checked, the 2K problem still exists though, file is considered corrupt every time,
as well as many others I have tried of the internet, my gut tells me that AHCI7xx just isn't 2K Compliant,

Winbuilder now works, thanks,

"you will have to choose an alternate host to do RIS without one..."
Won't "Tftpd32" resolve that issue, as it works very well for PXE Booting,

or does AutoImage insist on having a windows server?

i think you need mysysprep that will get around the problem of WHQL, which is well mentioned many times here in these forums,

not sure what you mean when you say "My questions (finally) are, can I extract the driver packs to c:\drivers INSTEAD of manually looking around for all the drivers for the dell pcs like Vernalex does?"

if you mean without sub directories, no because of the ini (inf) files will clash

my sysprep scanner documentation should tell you about it's limitations, but to my knowledge the sysprep scanner was designed to get around the registry limitations entirely,

driverpacks always looking to expand it's database, if you do a roll out and you notice a driver was not found, then find the HWIDS and let driverpacks know, and they will no doubt add it in at a future date,

note, whether they will add specific DELL hardware drivers in or not i'm not sure,

does that mean if using mysysprep program get used, then SysPrep Driver Scanner is no longer needed,

http://www.vernalex.com/tools/spdrvscn/

was reading up further, and found that live compression can help upto 40%,

what i mean is many files on windows xp setup cd are in fact compressed with CAB compression
I.E. explorer.exe but on CD it would be explorer.ex_
now this underscore at the end of the extension tells windows setup it needs to be de-compressed, could this be utilized, or would this invalidate what M3 is about, not sure, as of course M3 is probably been designed to fulfil more then one roll,

just an idea out loud, as compression would improve file access times as the work load would be lowered on the drive and shifted over to the CPU and HD (HD depending on buffers or cache of course)

i think you made the issue a little more complex then it has to be,

to my knowledge, acronis will take care of HAL, and SATA, but not other hardware, which is why the bootcd is so small (i think it supports raid as well, but don't hold me to that)

now the idea of acronis is to have a clean drive system, what i mean by that, is to only have windows drivers installed, so create a windows setup, but do not install any drivers at all, of course this is limiting considering how old windows xp driver database is.

to utilize driver packs, all you need is the system to start up enough for sysprep to do it's work, as long as the registry has been told where the drivers are located on the hard drive then sysprep will do the hardware device scan and find what it can, so in your case, you need to to a sysprep, then run below program, point to driverpacks, then create a image,

on roll out, acronis universal image will correct HAL and sort out SATA, enough to stop BLUE screen at least, then sysprep will take over, sysprep with the help from program below will run through hardware device scan utilizing all the drivers found in told location and hopefully bootup into windows desktop,

a little tip, from my experience do not install any graphics drivers, in base image, and don't include graphics driverbase, because there is a strong chance of bad install and blue screen, graphic drivers is very error proan, especially ATI and Nvidia. everything else is ok,

Accept for Nvidia Motherboard chipsets, these are a nightmare, especially NForce 1-2-3 Nforce 4 and above is not too bad.

there are other tips i could put in, but what's here covers the most part,

I'm quite sure you will need this

http://www.vernalex.com/tools/spdrvscn/

now i have not tried the above myself, due to the fact that acronis bootcd is not 100% compatible with all systems, because of the utilization of a GUI it uses, I've had some systems keyboard and mouse show very erratic behaviour which can't be resolve (some systems don't like so many resources being loaded in such a low environment) so i continue to use Ghost for this reason. ghost is simple, but it works on any system even all laptops that make it indispensable.

goodluck,

hi, some of the things in the latest change log are a little unclear to me,

quick question, does the new version (8.05) now natively support network share installs, or is the above information (instructions) still needed, thanks,

hat off, understood this topic quite well, this is what i do really, as in ghosting at present,

a little tip for imaging, if you want to utilize full UDMA functions with ghost try this

http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stu … dma/devel/

2.7 version is very stable, and use the overlap switch "/O" for extra reliability, yes a small hit in performance is hit, but still Ultra DMA will be active, so a lot faster either way, speed difference to expect in ghost 30 to 60% increase in speed and because the CPU will not be getting pestered by the hard drive any longer, compression speed will increase a lot aswell, comes in handy when multicasting for sure, and the extra speed at compressing can't help, but of course there is always a downside, it doesn't always work, 2% of the time it may fail, so out of a 100 machines it may fail on 2 (and one more thing, do not try this in VMWare, version 5 supported this, but version 6 does not, DMA functions are already in VMWare by default, so this program will corrupt DMA memory)

there's other versions there on the site, like XDMA and some other, but in all honesty i have not tried them, took a while to create a cd with this version, and i had 2 cd's, one with and one without (yes i could of created 1 cd and create a bat file that showed a choice if to enable it or not....problem is i don't know how, scripting is not for me i can tell you)
and it was difficult to get it integrated with this http://www.netbootdisk.com/

but got there in the end

however XDMA unlike UDMA works with chipsets that don't utilize the south bridge, at the time of me using this driver in dos environment the systems we had were all old, so i chose to safer option and used UDMA2, however i may try out XDMA as i'm using ghost on new systems now, and motherboard companies are trying to eliminate the need for southbridge chipsets, as southbridge's actually degrade performance now because system are getting so fast

just thought you should know, (unless of course you already do)

OverFlow

you mentioned about RIS, (http://forum.driverpacks.net/viewtopic. … 82&p=3) and been reading a lot over at MSFN, i knew it existed, but never could entertain it, as it requires windows server 2003, which i've tried, and to be honest, i was messing around with security options, and i broke it, it wouldn't let me install programs,

i only tried it because it's been a long time since trying windows 2000 server (i was young then)

but the fact is, i was in way over my head, windows server 2003 was....well to much, too many options, and the manual and help files makes the bible look small you know,

and the fact that i broke it within 2 hours, well we all have our limits, and our maximum potential, well windows server edition's of any kind is way over my I.Q. level (no time for beating about the bush), and i admit it,

so without windows server RIS is out of the question (or at least not practical to use)

but you and people in MSFN i have to admit got me curious, so whilst digging around for info on "CD image ISO for PXE booting" and "UBCD4 Windows booting via PXE", i kept running into people having wars with each other which is better Imaging based, or RIS installs, this got me curious even further,

so after more digging (and listening to more people fighting with each other what method is better or not, (i say if there both good, then learn both)) i surprisingly found this very interesting website, and obviously my eye's lit up,

and i was hoping if you or anyone here could shed some light,

(i apologize, i know this is off topic, however i have every intention of utilizing Driverpacks with this program)

i found this topic so instead of posting in above i posted here, and put link above so you know what I'm talking about and where I'm connected to

anyway this is the website and program,

http://www.windowsdream.com/

i just wondered because of this

http://www.windowsdream.com/winner.html

seems really interesting, hasn't been updated for a while, but if it allows me to create a RIS, without having to learn RIS, well that would be great,

could you shed some light on this, is it good, no good, throw job, or good for windows for dummies (ME) but doesn't nor would it ever replace a full on RIS set-up.

thanks for the info, i knew about ghost, as i set up cybercafes, done 14 now,

the image itself is tailored for cybercafes, which is why fresh setup's isn't really the way for me to go,

you see, customers want to use the machines, and what they hate the most is NAG screens,

they don't like things keep coming up what shouldn't,
i don't want to go into detail, but lets say, over a 1,000 settings have been adjusted to make the experience for the customer the best it can be,

that means, security, update settings, privacy settings, some kind anti-key logging software, and of course browser, messengers, well the list goes on,

with every program installed by default (from image) every program has been updated and settings configured for public use,

Nettime software helps a lot

and of course Goback 4.02 protects the systems from tampering,

so you see, (i should of explained this to begin with, i apologise) the image has a specific function,
and is tailored for a specific purpose, and it has tacken many many adjustments to iron out hundreds of little settings just to help out the customer more,

so getting back on topic, although reading WPI is intriguing, i can't let go of the image i have, for it has way to much time and resources from me to start again,

and the registry is quite clean, there are cleaners, and reg defraggers that can help with this process,
tuneup utilities was all i used, but CCleaner is something i now use aswell,

i was hoping that i could find a way of using UIU (which handles all sysprep functions for me, and enhance it somewhat) further and try and find a way of downloading HAL info, and make UIU just as effective as it has been all this time,

because UIU does everything for me, that is explained in this topic, and with the help from driverpacks, it is just as powerful as if it was the latest version, only i'm worried that it doesn't have the NEW HAL's drivers for modern day processors, and neither does driverpacks,

perhaps i should try and work out how UIU works, perhaps it uses something like "Mysysprep" already, and if it does, perhaps i could alter something that will make it future proof,

thanks any way, and if any one else here could shed some lite, perhaps someone has used UIU (universal imaging utility) themselves and have found a wau of making it understand future processors without having to use the latest version,

but thank you OverFlow, i did not know about "WPI", looks very interesting, could defiantly come in handy with fresh installs (coustomers repairs, not the main image needed for cybercafes only).

and thank you for your patience, like i said before, it was my mistake, i should of explained that the image is tailored for cybercafe roll out's.

and for the record, as much as i would love to do what UIU does manually (without the need of UIU), i'm just not as intelligent as you people here,

I'm 28 years of age, and things are not as easy to pick up as it once was, when i was 19, things were easy and fun, but these days, my mind has to try now, and things don't come as natural as it use to, I'm getting old,

so with respect, a lot of stuff here about using sysprep with scripts, and creating a database for HAL info with mysysprep, man i have to say, i feel a little intimidated, I'm just not that good,

to sum it up, i was hoping some one here could help me cheat, and enhance UIU further so i don't have to dive in to this deep stuff that you people here seem to know so well.

it was a long shot a best, i know not many people even know about UIU, so, still it was worth a try,

if you don't ask, then you will never know.

thanks anyway,

and sorry for any spelling mistakes, my spell checker in firefox isn't activated for some reason, will sort it out now, as I've edited this post, 5 times already,

well, onto learning WPI, sounds good.

see ya

edited, spell checker working again, corrected this post.

ok a little of topic here, but here goes,

i use a program called universal imaging utility,

story is, i use to work for a company that used this program, and they brought a volume license (which they now don't do)

the version i have is version 2, there on version 3.5 now, but i don't have a license for series 3, i only have a license for series 2, which of course they no longer support, nor am i valid any longer for updates of any kind,

now the program works fine, and under my license agreement i can continue to use it, but it's obviously it's well out of date, and so are the drivers, and i can't no longer update it because of no support,

http://binaryresearch.net/products/the_ … ng_utility

now what i do,

i have a setup which has 2 years of tayloring added to it,

so not to make things confusing i will explain what i do first then ask the question at the end,

01. i load up my master image
02. i make the changes i need to make
03. i run UIU (UIU puts all the drivers into INF\UIU\ location)

bare in mind these drivers are very old, and i have no support so i can't update them using UIU

04. UIU after putting drivers into location, then runs Sysprep in the background.
05. UIU is then finished and i exit UIU.

system is now in ready be shutdown and sysprep has already been run and finished removing all the necessary hardware, and a image should be tacken but i don't do this yet,

06.  i now decompress all driverpacks in to windows\inf\UIU directory
07.  i now use http://vernalex.com/tools/spdrvscn/index.shtml scanner
08.  i tell scanner to load windows\inf\UIU\D\ (tell sysprep to check these drivers first)
08a scanner is then told to check UIU after driverpack (in other words when loading up sysprep will use driverpack drivers first, if a driver is not found then it will resort to using the old UIU drivers if need be which is good, because UIU contains HAL information which driverpacks doesn't have) i think.

09. i shut down the system, and create a ghost image ready for deployment.

now my question and explanations,

the reason i use driverpack is obvious, UIU drivers are old so driverpacks make up the difference,
UIU version 2 (i have) is no longer supported, and there license system has changed, and i no longer work at my company where we used it, and i asked for a copy as i was made redundent (cut backs), the head technician gave me version 2 which they had, as they didn't need it any longer, as they now buy version 3 licenses.

now my question is, is the proceadure i'm doing above valid, i've read a lot of material concerning the sysprep scanner, and everything has always worked ok, but i'm getting worried because after reading all the info in this topic, people are talking about dual cores, and multi-cores HAL's, and i'm concerned that UIU version 2 will suddenly stop working because it won't have the updated HAL's needed for modern day processor's

also could any one suggest any way of improving my proceadures above, or perhaps suggest a alternative
perhaps there's a way of downloading some new HAL drivers i could put into my UIU folder so UIU will continue to work,

i know the best method would be to purchase version 3, but that is out of the question, as they now sell them on a per license basis, and beside the UIU i got is ok, i'm just worried it won't support the new HAL's needed for modern day processor's, and all i need is to download the latest HAL drivers,

as i don't need the latest UIU drivers, as i use DRIVERPACKS, all i need is the latest HAL drivers,

sorry to make this so long, i never meant to make this post to be so long,
but i appreciate any help, as the above mentioned here concerning mysysprep, and the methods making sysprep work without UIU seems way to complicated for me,

thanks, and i please don't have a go at me for making such a long post, i'm new to here.