Topic: Virtual PC 2007
It is a testing platform of sorts, and I used the beta with satisfaction. And best of all: it's free!
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jtdoom wrote:
It is a testing platform of sorts, and I used the beta with satisfaction.
Same here, and even the RC was nice.
Good to see it moved to final now, whatever that means with MS 
Of course, you can also use VMWare which also supports your physically present USb devices, however, I found VPC to somehow work out better and faster for me.
The thrid big player in the Virtual Machine business is Parallels, however, they merely have a free trial version up.
OTOH, you can also run this on a Mac 
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I wouldn't call Parallels a big player, I believe VMWare has 80% or so of the virtualisation market.
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VMware much better
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The reason for stickying this topic is simple: Virtual PC 2007 is completely free. And it's less limited than VMWare player. That alone should be enough IMO.
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I wouldn't call Parallels a big player, I believe VMWare has 80% or so of the virtualisation market.
I can't give you actual figures, but from my perception they are indeed rather big - at least big enough to be mentioned on the topic of Virtual Machines
Oh, and they definately have a big share of Mac Virtualisation I am sure!
Bâshrat the Sneaky wrote:
The reason for stickying this topic is simple: Virtual PC 2007 is completely free. And it's less limited than VMWare player. That alone should be enough IMO.
That, and the reason I provided linkage to the other two is so that users still have a free choice what to pick
The best is usually to test as many as possible and then choce whatever you like best!
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Helmi wrote:
Bâshrat the Sneaky wrote:The reason for stickying this topic is simple: Virtual PC 2007 is completely free. And it's less limited than VMWare player. That alone should be enough IMO.
That, and the reason I provided linkage to the other two is so that users still have a free choice what to pick
The best is usually to test as many as possible and then choce whatever you like best!
True
I was first using the previous VPC. Then I tried VMWare and I've never looked back. Installations took at least ten minutes less (35->25 minutes or something in the order of that), which is quite some boost IMO!
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""Installations took at least ten minutes less ""
What Installations, the program itself (VMWare)? or instaling WinXp for testing purpose?
Iam just tierd of running WinXP install on VPC it takes 40-60 min. evry time 
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Floppy wrote:
""Installations took at least ten minutes less ""
What Installations, the program itself (VMWare)? or instaling WinXp for testing purpose?
The latter I would assume.
Really, how often do you (re-)install the VM?
Unless it takes several days to do so, that is really negligible.
But if you come to think about how often you (or we at least) install some test version of XP inside the VM, then it actually does matter, even if it's "just" ten minutes less
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Helmi wrote:
Floppy wrote:""Installations took at least ten minutes less ""
What Installations, the program itself (VMWare)? or instaling WinXp for testing purpose?
The latter I would assume.
Really, how often do you (re-)install the VM?
Unless it takes several days to do so, that is really negligible.
But if you come to think about how often you (or we at least) install some test version of XP inside the VM, then it actually does matter, even if it's "just" ten minutes less
Exactly. Testing in VMWare as follows:
1) create ISO
2) in VMWare control center/admin panel/whatever it's called: right click "reference image", clone it, boot it. Voila. Test install is running.
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Bâshrat the Sneaky wrote:
The reason for stickying this topic is simple: Virtual PC 2007 is completely free. And it's less limited than VMWare player. That alone should be enough IMO.
only it SUX
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to speed it up, give it some real memory, and disable its virtual memory.
Microsoft does this in the Internet Explorer readiness toolkit virtual machine
(they made available a virtual hard disk image, with XP and IE7 in a VHD image, free to download.)
the IE7 readiness toolkit image will expire march 30...
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I've used VMWare Workstation since day one.
From memory I had a look at Virtual PC but it didn't grab me as much as VMWare did.
I have 1GB of RAM in my system, and I always allow my virtual machine to have 256-512MB.
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I tried Virtual PC 2007 first (because it was free), but half of my WinXP builds would get an error in a file in a sub-folder of \I386\ASMS\ that would stop the install. It wasn't always the same file, but GDIPLUS.MAN was one of them. I tried VMware with the same ISO's and it NEVER had that error.
It's really too bad... I liked the video driver support better on Virtual PC.
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I never had that gdiplus error and suggest you run a memory test tool.
I do know of a few reported bugs what affect VPC, but I cannot be your watson.
Most issues with VPC got reported and your issue should be reported too, but you had better do that report at a msft site.
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Evil_Ed wrote:
I tried Virtual PC 2007 first (because it was free), but half of my WinXP builds would get an error in a file in a sub-folder of \I386\ASMS\ that would stop the install. It wasn't always the same file, but GDIPLUS.MAN was one of them. I tried VMware with the same ISO's and it NEVER had that error.
It's really too bad... I liked the video driver support better on Virtual PC.
Ed
Are you using VPC to test your .ISO files or the actual burned CD/DVD?
If this is happening with .ISO files, it might be a corrupted gdiplus.dll file. Grab a replacement from here:
http://dll-files.com/dllindex/dll-files.shtml?gdiplus
This error is almost always caused by a botched SP2 slipstream, a dirty disc, or a failing optical drive.
http://www.annoyances.org/exec/forum/winxp/t1017113594
http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/15875/
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thanks.
We learn something new every day.
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Jaak wrote:
thanks.
We learn something new every day.
Yes, Google is a wonderful resource. 
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mr_smartepants wrote:
Jaak wrote:thanks.
We learn something new every day.Yes, Google is a wonderful resource.
If you know how to use it...
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LOL...
Watsons use google.
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I did try to replace the GDIPLUS.MAN as per instructions from google searches. It didn't help. And yes, was using ISO's, which only confused me since most explainations for that problem were blaming CD or CD-ROM problems. Also, I can open the problem files with a notepad and it looked fine. And, the same ISO's worked fine with VMware. Another interesting thing is that of the 3 or 4 different files (different file in different ISO's), some were compressed and some were not.
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Try using a clean XP source and reslipstream SP2 and retest.
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#What Works and What Doesn't in Microsoft Virtual PC (unofficial list of which OSes)
http://vpc.visualwin.com/
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#Virtual Machine Downloads (overlooked-resources, Utilities, Tech-Ref, links, Other-Emulators,nthing)
http://vpc.essjae.com/
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Re: Virtual PC 2007
when i first discovered virtualization it was vmware and often i used "easywmx" with it, but after that m$ rolled out Virtual PC 2007 and it was free, so i started to using it. Now i discovered VirtualBox and i like it. For now i am sticking with VirtualBox coz of ease of use and speed(it is not superb, but it is satisfying)
if you r still wondering wtf is VirtualBox go here:
http://www.virtualbox.org/
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+1 on VirtualBox. It's the only VM I've been using for the past 6 months.
I used to use only VMWare because it was more compatible and was quite a bit faster than VPC. But Virtual Box is the best of both worlds: It's small, fast, and free. (and I haven't had any compatibility issues)
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