Topic: Direct Links
Are there any http links for the x86 Windows 7 packs? torrents are blocked in most corporate networks
- Wim Leers
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We're well aware of this, but unfortunately, that's the only way we can truly be free of very expensive hosting feeds and independent from the goodwill of CDN providers.
We're very sorry.
However, we are exploring the possibility of providing direct download links in exchange for a membership fee. Would you be willing to pay a membership fee for direct download links?
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I find it despicable that DriverPack would resort to this tactic. Where once you could download freely, now you must use Bittorrent. If you really wanna externalise the cost of hosting, then upload to one of the plenty of filesharing sites, like millions of other people. Tell me you are too stupid to have thought of that idea??? Not only do you have people submitting their drivers and work for free, now you wanna charge people for other peoples free work. Despicable. Money hungry. Tell me you can't afford the couple dollars it cost to register a domain name and have a basic text site which allows for forums and such. Did you even think of advertising on your site to earn money, like the millions of other people in the world. I'm in africa, and I manage to host and run a decent site at peanuts cost and I make most of the money through advertising and other internet sources of income. Where once I thought you had a good idea and good intentions, fixing the mistakes that Microsoft doesn't want to, now I see you are holding people ransom for the "privilege". Bittorrent sucks. Get with the program. Their speed is slow and availability is horrible, vs a simple link to any one of the file sharing sites. Now you tell me why should anyone give donations when you wanna hold people hostage, when you haven't even done your homework on internet 101, basic advertising on a site, or even making sure you are using the cheapest web provider etc etc. If I can do, I really don't see how you can't considering it looks like you are well more qualified in I.T. than I am.
AT any rate, if you don't want to provide download links, plenty of other people are willing to do it for you. So why don't you at the very least, provide their links, unless it is all about sucking your patrons dry.
And why shouldn't people stop supporting you and use one of the other free driverpacks available on the net???
Here's some links. I dare you to take them down. Go against the spirit of the web, of free knowledge. Sensor this post coz it will make you more money in the long run.
ANd even if you do take down this post, guess what, I'll just host the links on my site, so people can benefit from it, without any benefit to myself, except the google hits I will get which will increase my income through advertising. Internet 101. People don't mind advertising if they know they getting something out of it.
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Yes. I will gladly pay for direct download links. Currently I am making less than a hundred bucks a month. But I will gladly help support this site.
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I just gave you http download links. For free. Why would you want to pay, for something that is free, literally ONE cm above your question??? Explain your logic to me, like I'm a 5 year old
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heres another site 1cm below your question, for free
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@123456,
You've been banned for one week for violating Forum rule #8.
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Please take this time off to re-read the rules and think about what possible benefit your threatening & abusive behavior could have in these forums where mutual respect is encouraged.
All three of your posts violated the above rule, that's 3-strikes.
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- OverFlow
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Dude you are really trying to tell us you can find a host that will offer us 10 terabytes a month of bandwidth for free? It's not the forum that is the financial drain on this project.
You are mistaken... our CDN partners have donated this service to us in the past, but since goof-balls like you won't sign up for thier services (Conversion rate of zero) They don't want to do if for very long... they have quoted us 800 USD a month for 10TB of bandwith. even all of the "free" sites you mentioned above do and will charge for that kind of bandwidth or pull the links... every one of them. Do you generate that kind of income (over 1,000 USD a month) off your sites ads per month? We aren't holding anyone ransom, anyone can still download the packs for free 
. That is exactly why we have gone to torrents... they are free. If you want professional quality download service to the tune of 10~20 Tera-bytes a month then that comes with a price tag (from ANY provider). I am not going to donate hundreds of hours of my time for free AND dig into my personal wallet too.
If you are going to go off on a rant at least take a full minute to get the all the facts straight. Like the fact we are talking about over a million downloads a month and 10 to 20 Terabytes per month of bandwidth.
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Those USD 800 were their internal costs. The costs they charge their customers is significantly higher. Probably double that.
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Well first off thanks you guys for all your great driver packs over the years.
Well while I am not against paying for direct links per-se, it would be better if you could include something extra for your paying consumers.
Maybe include a shipment of the physical disk as option, and/or a limited edition Bâshrat/overflow autograph DriverPack CD 
.
I also think you should make the prices concrete and not rely on donations.
You guys painstakingly have gone through and removed duplicate drivers, and created one of the leanest best driverpacks around.
Thanks again.... this is very professional project and has helped me greatly over the years. My only criticism is again without providing people either through paying or free http links you are limiting the opportunity for people to use your project where P2P is not an option.
Last edited by adamw (2011-03-31 12:04:11)
- TechDud
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Willingness to pay is one thing. Ability is another. Would a charge for download be tantamount to charging for another's SW? I recall the experience of Daniel_K being sued by Creative (until literally thousands of users on Creative's forums complained - & they couldn't keep up with the posts they 'needed' to delete), just because he had repackaged their faulty, feature-disabled software-drivers, enabled full 7 support (even for the SB Live! series) & was accepting donations. 
Last edited by TechDud (2011-04-01 15:53:08)
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- OverFlow
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the signifigent difference is we don't modify / rewrite the drivers. He actually hacked their drivers.
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adamw wrote:
Maybe include a shipment of the physical disk as option, and/or a limited edition Bâshrat/overflow autograph DriverPack CD
I also think you should make the prices concrete and not rely on donations.
That Idea has merit... I think that is a workable solution...
What is a fair price, I wonder out loud.
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I would pay $20.00 "USA" funds a year for access to Driverpacks.
- mr_smartepants
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Interesting idea about the disc distribution. All the current DriverPacks will fit on a single DVD and SAD2 would be included.
Hmmmm...
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That's exactly what I was going to suggest. A compilation DVD with ALL of the DriverPacks on it, for all architectures including the DriverPacks Base package.
I hate using BitTorrents. FTP or HTTP is fine for me, as I can, and do setup cron jobs to download 4GB DVD ISO images overnight, when there is unlimited bandwith with my ISP.
I reckon distributing all the DriverPacks on one DVD would bring in the required donations for the project.
Then there's softpedia. The DrivePacks Base package is on there already.
http://www.softpedia.com/get/System/Sys … BASE.shtml
Is there a problem with uploading the latest versions of the DriverPacks to softpedia for direct http download?
What about if you said that everyone who donates $20 USD or more to the project will get a free compilation DVD of all the latest DriverPacks for all architectures posted in the mail, with no restrictions on making further copies for redistribution?
Another option is to sell something like an 8GB USB Flash Drive, with all the DriverPacks installed ready for use. (IIRC, somebody sold a USB flash drive with a bootable version of Linux on it. So they were only selling the USB drive - the software was an added 'free extra'.)
Here's a short tutorial on using DriverPacks from a USB flash drive.
Apparently, using the USB drive is alot faster than running from the DVD drive.
"Installing Drivers from an ISO image located on a thumbstick."
An video tutorial on how to install a network driver (or any driver) from a 'DriverPacks.net' driver pack iso image located on a USB thumb drive.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XeMFrK0jqDE
Personally, I'd prefer the option of purchasing a USB flash drive with all the DriverPacks pre-installed on it.
a) The USB drive can be alot larger than a DVD disk, so there is room to add other things to the USB flash drive.
b) It works alot quicker that the DVD disk.
c) If the DriverPacks were supplied on the USB flash drive as ISO images, like in the video above, that would give the member the option of also burning the image to a CD/DVD disk - just in case the USB ports on a particular machine are not working.
Maybe we can have some sort of forum members poll, to see what other options for obtaining the full set of DriverPacks members would prefer to use (instead of BitTorrents,) and also what each member would be willing to pay for those other options? So free BitTorrents downloads would still be an option, plus some others as well.
I guess USB drives could be bought in bulk, and a nice tidy profit made on these to help finances for the project?
Personally I'd be pleased to shell out $20.00 for the complete set of DriverPacks on an 8GB USB flash drive.
Maybe we can see what results a poll on this would produce - if PunBB supports polls, and the admins are up for that?
Regarding distributing the USB flash drives, if this is going to be a viable option:
The payment can be made to the project leader, and the USB flash drives could be made and shipped from the members own country locally, possibly by a willing project leader/admin?
That would save on international shipping costs.
Last edited by DDR-333 (2011-08-31 07:24:57)
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"Personally, I'd prefer the option of purchasing a USB flash drive with all the DriverPacks pre-installed on it."
I also would gladly pay $20.00. For a USB flash drive.
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Technically, that would violate our own rules.
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Donations is one thing. Selling for profit is quite another.
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USB stick is a great idea... but SAD2 from a USB stick would be a far superior method to the manual one he demonstrates. I personally like a single click soulution. his method takes a LOT of user input. I worked in a shop and would typically have four to eight PC's on my desk at a time hooked to a KVM. No way i would have time to go through all those steps on each one (baby sit). Set SAD in motion and move on to the next unit... When you get back it's done. time is money. Even if i only had one PC to fix I could be working on something else while the drivers installed. (multitasking)
Smart is right about the rules... However Wim makes the rules, and mr_s and I have some input on all subjects DriverPacks related. Further it states "users" may not... We are the main team .
Let's get the ideas flowing and if something seems popular and feasable then we can decide if it is doable and within the rules and can be done in good faith with all concerned parties.
We could potentially get around the issue of making a sale by saying a Preloaded USB stick would come FREE with any donation of over $20.
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"Back to school" and "Black Friday" sales are coming up. We should keep an eye out for good opportunities.
This topic has strayed way beyond anything to do with the Graphics packs. Moving to a more appropriate area...
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The rules are indeed a protective framework. They ensure that 'DriverPacks' will be around long after WinXP support is cancelled. Whom else is better positioned to provide "worgink" drivers for the newest x86-based MS OS's? 
Long-term success may depend upon what MS does in the next few months.
I see that you have at least two 'varsity sponsors. Perhaps your contacts there may provide a wealth of ideas.
Another avenue may be small-business-based tech stores. (plain-jane retail may express interest sooner, though) Wouldn't one of the first questions of a prospective client be 'how soon can you send me samples?', or 'how long until you can send me a 1000-lot?' Beware the freetards!
Perhaps the first job is educational; teach others why updated drivers are so important. I know it, you know it; if we didn't believe this, none of us would likely be here (perish the thought). If many don't know that they need you, what will encourage them to 'pay' attention? Global financial outlooks seem over-optimistic to me; yet despite this type of financial climate, there will be opportunity. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Think_%28IBM%29
You are correct about the documentation, Mr_Bashrat, it is advising people to:
It is highly recommended that you use either nLite or the RyanVM Integrator to integrate all current hotfixes prior to integrating DriverPacks.
When integration questions are asked in the forums, i see mr_smartepants having to preempt the attempted DP integration with nLite by 'noobs. I have no experience integrating any install disks yet (vanilla installs only), has anyone noticed? ?
Getting back to the main topic; i love the µTorrent download approach. Can't stand html links for the DriverPacks; that was slow for me. If my bandwidth wasn't subject to over-usage tariff, i'd pull out my DD-WRT box & start serving & 12Mbps. I don't know if it's because of the updated drivers, yet downloading DP_Sound_A & B averaged 750kB/s each concurrently over my little 54g connection @ 25% power with 0 packet loss for the whole day (i did use the WiFi utility long ago to hop to a well-separated channel!)
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We could potentially get around the issue of making a sale by saying a Preloaded USB stick would come FREE with any donation of over $20. big_smile
How about all the DriverPacks and the Base Pack, plus SAD2 (whatever that is?)
I tried to unpack all the latest DP's that were just under 3GB size in .7z archives. I ran out of disk space after unpacking about 11GB's worth of 7z archives.
Suggestion: Maybe a preloaded 8GB flash drive, (FAT32 is apparently supposed to cause less wear on the flash memory that NTFS) with all the DP *.7z archives on it?
This will allow space for the DP archives to grow, and also plenty of other space to store ones favourite applications to work with the DriverPacks, such as the 7zip program, and HW detection tools? Also one could manually extract a particular archive to some space on the flash drive, for installing drivers manually on a ad-hoc basis, as and when required?
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DDR-333 wrote:
I tried to unpack all the latest DP's that were just under 3GB size in .7z archives. I ran out of disk space after unpacking about 11GB's worth of 7z archives.
Why did you try this?
What purpose does it serve?
(FAT32 is apparently supposed to cause less wear on the flash memory that NTFS)
Use exFAT, it's designed for flash drives!
FAT32 is ancient and obsolete (if only most stand-alone HW would support anything else than FAT16/32...).
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I'm a total newbie to DriverPacks, and thought this would help with me to manually install some missing drivers for a laptop.
So I'm just getting my head around the beginner's tutorial now:
http://driverpacks.net/docs/beginners-guide-windows-xp
DriverPacks were created for integrating drivers directly into your Windows setup CD, which also happens to make an unnattended installation easier.
Which is exactly what I want to do!
DriverPacks BASE is an integration program that will take individual DriverPacks (downloaded here or created by yourself) and integrate them into a local 32-bit Windows source for installation on another PC. (installing from the slipstreamed CD or from a RIS networked image.). At the time of this writing, you can use DriverPacks BASE to slipstream the Driverpacks into a Windows 2000, XP or Server 2003 source.
In this tutorial, we will be using a Windows XP Home OEM CD-ROM as source, and DriverPacks BASE 7.04.
Before we start, there are a few items you will need.
1. Local Windows source (That is a copy of the original Windows CD in a folder on your hard disk.)
2. DriverPacks BASE
3. DriverPacks for your hardware — you must not extract them!
4. Optional: 7-zip (free). (Needed for creating or modifying DriverPacks)
OK. I think I'm getting the idea now. I only want to build my own slipstreamed XP DVD for home use, with missing drivers added to it. So do I need the network installation package mentioned in the MSFN UXPCD tutorial?
I found RyanVM's MSFN files page late last night. So now I know about the hot fixes, and where to get them form!
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DDR-333 wrote:
I'm a total newbie to DriverPacks, and thought this would help with me to manually install some missing drivers for a laptop.
If it's for an online system, use SAD instead.
Which is exactly what I want to do!
For integration into an offline installation medium, use the BASE, disc option and method 2 for a rough guide.
No extraction of DriverPacks required (now will it work with extracted packs, anyhow...).
OK. I think I'm getting the idea now. I only want to build my own slipstreamed XP DVD for home use, with missing drivers added to it. So do I need the network installation package mentioned in the MSFN UXPCD tutorial?
No, you only need to have the ISO of the install medium extracted to HDD (or have the contents of an install disc copied over - make sure to not miss hidden and system files etc. when copying with Explorer - I use nLite for the task, much preferred for newbies!).
Then, DL and install BASE and DL the DriverPacks you want, putting the *.7zs into the DriverPacks folder.
Start BASE, follow on-screen hints...
I found RyanVM's MSFN files page late last night. So now I know about the hot fixes, and where to get them form!
Has nothing to do with drivers nor DriverPacks in generall.
It is recomneded to work with an SP3 image.
nLite may be used for hotfix and SP slistreaming (but NOT for anything driver-related!).
GL!