• DaveWI
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Topic: Dell Lan Drivers

Hello, I hope this is in the right forum.

I am working on a hardware independent Windows XP image for my company. This is a new project, we have never done this before. We are small, and have a diverse list of Dell PC's in our group of ~80 workstations. While using MSFN's forums for most of my planning and testing stage all has gone ok, and I have used the driver packs here to support this project. I have done a few test deployments, with the same result each time. I am deploying via a DVD.

The trouble PC is one of my test machines, a Dell Dimension 1100.

The driver packs have provided drivers for many things, but every time I try this Dimension 1100 the LAN drivers for the Intel PRO 100 VE network card are not found. I obtained the driver here:
http://support.dell.com/support/downloa … eid=136609

and it installs correctly of course. The trouble is this is an exe, and setup won't find the drivers without my interaction manually running this installer.

I searched the forum for any mention of the Dell Dimension 1100 to no avail. Most all the results were for much newer model Dells.


My questions are thus:
Are these older Dell drivers in the driver packs?
What about newer model Dells, I have about 11 different models I am going to be dealing with?
If Dell drivers are not in the packs, is there a Dell pack of drivers I haven't heard about?
Does anyone have any suggestions on my best course of action?

<EDIT> BTW Looking at the inf, it is the Intel 8255x and a search of the forum for "Intel 8255" also had zero results.


Thank you.

Last edited by DaveWI (2010-03-26 03:37:11)

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Re: Dell Lan Drivers

Welcome to DriverPacks.net!
If i have guessed correctly based on "hardware independent Windows XP image" 
Sounds like SysPrep, Um... nope, not in the right forum...
SysPrep would belong in "Universal Imaging"
NBD its tough to figure that out, big_smile - I'll move it

We can't possably help you without you providing the requested info. (IE Read BEFORE you post AKA Rule #0)
Rule #0 was presented to you when you clicked / affirmed that you had read and agreed to our rules... you did read that right? wink

Since devices are installed by their HWIDs (and not by name)
you won't find anything here listed by name (since the name is not relevant)

If you wish to discover why a particular device did not install,
or if it is included, then you must provide it's HWID.
Since devices are matched to drivers by their HWIDs it is the ONLY relevant info.
to you, to us, to the device and to the driver...
Since that is not what you searched for... no surprise you found nothing big_smile
- I am quite happy about the fact that you did in fact attempt to search... well done! - most people don't.)


Also from rule #0
Can we reproduce your issue just based on the info contained in your first post?
I have no idea What OS you are using... XP OK... But is that with no SP?, SP1?, SP2?, SP3?, is that OEM, MSDN or Retail?... I suppose i might assume that you were using Professional... but you know what happens when one assumes smile wink if it is slipstreamed with a SP, or did the original disc provide the current SP level. if you did apply a SP how? Were there other patches applied to the image? If so how? manually, RVMI, nLite, Serabys, hfslip, other? What was your process? did you use OLSP? did you do a -bsmd... have you used OEMpnpPath? Did you use DriverPacks BASE? are you using SAD. have you implemented KTD? Did you read any of the other SysPrep related topics here? Did you use one of them as a guide? How exactly did you implement the packs? Which packs did you implement? What were there versions? Did you get them from us?

Basically you have not provided not one single useful bit of info for us to use to help you...

MINIMUM requirements are a DPs_BASE.log and your HWIDs (HWIDs tool in my signature)  Please read "Read BEFORE you post." AKA rule #0
Fill in the blanks... Then we will see if we can help.

Hint we have about three million downloads a week and nobody else is reporting this driver as missing, think about it for a second. Then... explain in detail what YOU did so we can figure out what you did differently than thousands of other people. big_smile. - If you want help we need details...

Here is an analogy i am really fond of... suppose I were to ask you
"Why won't my car run?"
- Not much to go on is it? (you dont even know if i have an electric car, or internal combustion)
- That is the same thing you just did to us wink
check out the links for HWIDs tool and read before you post in my signature
It would probably also be in your best interest to read the stickied threads in universal imaging big_smile

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Re: Dell Lan Drivers

OK, first off I don't think I asked a question as simple as "why won;t my car run?"

Second, I have no idea what these things are:
RVMI, Serabys, hfslip, OLSP, OEMpnpPath, SAD, KTD, HWID

I don't know everything, and I don't profess to. You want to know my process? fine, this is going to be a looooong post, as this is mine and our companies first attempt at this (no one here has ever done it, and we are still testing if it can be done, hence the question about the driver).

To start I have a network folder with my driver resources \\myfolder\testing\drivers

In that folder are drivers I collected with 2 methods. first:
Using driverpacks base, 8.12.5 I choose english, stand alone drivers, selected is chipset 10.02, cpu 9.12, lan 10.03, massstorage 9.01, method 1, disable qsc, other optional settings not available. When complete I moved the contents of c:\driver packs test\ready\driverpacks.net  to the network share folder. \\myfolder\testing\drivers\DriverPacks
log file:

2010-03-26 09:33:41 : <INIT> DriverPacks BASE 8.12.5 initialized.
2010-03-26 09:33:41 : <INIT> Host environment: WIN_XP Service Pack 2 on X86 CPU.
2010-03-26 09:33:41 : <INIT> Created temporary working directory.
2010-03-26 09:33:41 : <INIT> Imported proxy settings from Internet Explorer.
2010-03-26 09:33:41 : <INIT> Start scanning for DriverPacks for the wnt5_x86-32 platform.
2010-03-26 09:33:41 : <INIT> 	Detected DriverPack Chipset 1002!
2010-03-26 09:33:41 : <INIT> 	Detected DriverPack CPU 912!
2010-03-26 09:33:41 : <INIT> 	Detected DriverPack Graphics A 1003!
2010-03-26 09:33:41 : <INIT> 	Detected DriverPack Graphics B 1003!
2010-03-26 09:33:41 : <INIT> 	Detected DriverPack Graphics C 912!
2010-03-26 09:33:41 : <INIT> 	Detected DriverPack LAN 1003!
2010-03-26 09:33:41 : <INIT> 	Detected DriverPack MassStorage 901!
2010-03-26 09:33:41 : <INIT> 	Detected DriverPack Sound A 1003!
2010-03-26 09:33:41 : <INIT> 	Detected DriverPack Sound B 1003!
2010-03-26 09:33:41 : <INIT> 	Detected DriverPack WLAN 1003!
2010-03-26 09:33:41 : <INIT> 	Could not detect any 3rd party DriverPacks for wnt5_x86-32.
2010-03-26 09:33:41 : <INIT> 	Finished scanning.
2010-03-26 09:33:41 : <INIT> Detected settings file "C:\Test Software\Drivers\Driverpacks Install folder\DPs_BASE.ini".
2010-03-26 09:33:41 : <INIT> [Settings]\DPsMethod not specified: default (2) was set.
2010-03-26 09:33:41 : <INIT> [Settings]\finisherMethod not specified: default (GUIRunOnce) was set.
2010-03-26 09:33:41 : <INIT> [OptionalSettings]\KTD not specified: default (none) was set.
2010-03-26 09:33:41 : <INIT> [OptionalSettings]\QSC not specified: default (yes) was set.
2010-03-26 09:33:41 : <INIT> [OptionalSettingsOther]\ATI_cpl not specified: default (None) was set.
2010-03-26 09:33:41 : <INIT> [OptionalSettingsOther]\Nvidia_cpl not specified: default (None) was set.
2010-03-26 09:33:41 : <INIT> wnt5_x86-32_StandAloneDrivers is the selected installation platform .
2010-03-26 09:33:41 : <INIT> Imported settings from settings file.
2010-03-26 09:33:41 : <INIT> [OptionalSettingsOther]\ATI_cpl not specified: default (None) was set.
2010-03-26 09:33:41 : <INIT> [OptionalSettingsOther]\Nvidia_cpl not specified: default (None) was set.
2010-03-26 09:33:41 : <GUI>  Initialized GUI.
2010-03-26 09:33:41 : <GUI>  Created a list of all available language files.
2010-03-26 09:33:41 : <GUI>  Set the last used language, English, as the GUI language.
2010-03-26 09:37:35 : <GUI>  Refreshed UpdateChecker with success.
2010-03-26 09:37:39 : <GUI>  Closed GUI.
2010-03-26 09:37:39 : <GUI>  Saved settings!
2010-03-26 09:37:39 : <CLNP> Temporary working directory successfully deleted.
- = DriverPacks BASE ini settings used = -
[General]
; preferred language
prefLang	= "English"
; yes/no, enable or disable the wizard-style buttons, if not specified: yes
wizardButtons	= "yes"
; yes/no, enable or disable the GUI, if not specified: yes
GUI		= "yes"


[Settings]
; disc/bartpe/multibootDisc
instPlatform	= "StandAloneDrivers"
; trailing backslash is allowed, but not necessary
location	= "C:\Test Software\Drivers\Driverpacks Install folder\ready"
; none/all/select, if select, specify them below, if not specified: all
DriverPacks	= "select"
; 1/2, method to install the DriverPacks, if not specified: 2
DPsMethod	= "1"
; GUIRunOnce/RunOnceEx/custom, if not specified: GUIRunOnce
finisherMethod	= "GUIRunOnce"


; this section is optional!
[OptionalSettings]
; none/all/select/paths/patterns, enable or disable Keep The Drivers (KTD) , if not specified: none
KTD		= "false"
; <path>, to specify a custom KTD cache location, if not specified: default (%SystemRoot%\DriverPacks)
KTDlocation	= "%SystemRoot%\DriverPacks"
; yes/no, enable or disable QuickStream Cache (QSC), if not specified: yes
QSC		= "no"


; you should only add this section if you've set [Settings]\DriverPacks to "select"
[SelectDriverPacks]
DP_Chipset	= "yes"
DP_CPU		= "yes"
DP_Graphics_A	= "no"
DP_Graphics_B	= "no"
DP_Graphics_C	= "no"
DP_LAN		= "yes"
DP_MassStorage	= "yes"
DP_Sound_A	= "no"
DP_Sound_B	= "no"
DP_WLAN		= "no"
DP_MassStorage_textmode = "no"
2010-03-26 09:37:39 : <CLNP> Create a DPs_Base.log backup @ C:\Test Software\Drivers\Driverpacks Install folder\LogFiles\DPs_BASE_10-03-26_09-37.log
2010-03-26 09:37:39 : <CLNP> Program terminated.

Second I used the tool here: http://www.msfn.org/board/topic/83960-u … er-backup/ and saved the drivers in directories based on the pc model. I then moved those into the network share also. \\myfolder\testing\drivers\PCNAME

I then copied the contents of the network share \\myfolder\testing\drivers to c:\windows\driver cache so now in c:\windows\driver cache there are 2 directories i386, and drivers.


Since this is a test situation, not everything is set up yet. I am using a Dell Optiplex 320 with the OEM installation of XP pro, service pack 3, and all current updates as of 3-1-2010. After a clean install, I run setupmgr, and create a new answer file. I choose sysprep setup, xp pro, fully automate, default display, time zone -6, product key, automatically generate a name, administrator password encrypted, typical network settings, join domain, default telephony, default regional, default languages, no printers, no run once, no additional commands. 
I modify sysprep.inf to the following:
InstallFilesPath="C:\WINDOWS\Driver Cache"
DriverSigningPolicy=Ignore
UpdateInstalledDrivers=Yes

and
[SetupMgr]
DistFolder="C:\WINDOWS\Driver Cache"

and add
[SysprepMassStorage]

I then run the tool here: http://www.vernalex.com/tools/spdrvscn/
following their instructions on proper usage.

I then run sysprep –bmsd, then I make sure the pc is set to acpi. Install internet explorer 8, foxit reader, and 2 other base programs we use at our company. I then run mysysprep, choosing minisetup, and reseal.

Once the machine is off I boot to a winpe disk, and capture the WIM image to a network folder. I then use petools to create an iso, burn a dvd, and the deployed the image to a Dell dimension 1100 test machine. everything worked except the network driver.

Here is the HWID file from that PC:

=========== 
PCI Devices 
=========== 
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_1050&SUBSYS_01D51028&REV_02\4&1C660DD6&0&40F0: Intel(R) PRO/100 VE Network Connection
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_244E&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_C2\3&172E68DD&0&F0: Intel(R) 82801 PCI Bridge - 244E
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_24D0&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_02\3&172E68DD&0&F8: Intel(R) 82801EB LPC Interface Controller - 24D0
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_24D2&SUBSYS_01D51028&REV_02\3&172E68DD&0&E8: Intel(R) 82801EB USB Universal Host Controller - 24D2
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_24D3&SUBSYS_01D51028&REV_02\3&172E68DD&0&FB: Intel(R) 82801EB SMBus Controller - 24D3
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_24D4&SUBSYS_01D51028&REV_02\3&172E68DD&0&E9: Intel(R) 82801EB USB Universal Host Controller - 24D4
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_24D5&SUBSYS_01D51028&REV_02\3&172E68DD&0&FD: SoundMAX Integrated Digital Audio
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_24DB&SUBSYS_01D51028&REV_02\3&172E68DD&0&F9: Intel(R) 82801EB Ultra ATA Storage Controllers - 24DB
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_24DD&SUBSYS_01D51028&REV_02\3&172E68DD&0&EF: Intel(R) 82801EB USB2 Enhanced Host Controller - 24DD
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_24DE&SUBSYS_01D51028&REV_02\3&172E68DD&0&EB: Intel(R) 82801EB USB Universal Host Controller - 24DE
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2570&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_02\3&172E68DD&0&00: Intel(R) 82865G/PE/P/GV/82848P Processor to I/O Controller - 2570
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2572&SUBSYS_01D51028&REV_02\3&172E68DD&0&10: Intel(R) 82865G Graphics Controller
12 matching device(s) found.
 
=========== 
USB Devices 
=========== 
USB\ROOT_HUB\4&1897A88C&0                                   : USB Root Hub
USB\ROOT_HUB\4&211EE94A&0                                   : USB Root Hub
USB\ROOT_HUB\4&900482C&0                                    : USB Root Hub
USB\ROOT_HUB20\4&B643904&0                                  : USB Root Hub
USB\VID_0557&PID_7000\5&10AD4F7A&0&2                        : Generic USB Hub
USB\VID_413C&PID_2106\6&3FBCD94&0&1                         : USB Human Interface Device
USB\VID_413C&PID_3012\6&3FBCD94&0&2                         : USB Human Interface Device
7 matching device(s) found.
 
============= 
Input Devices 
============= 
HID\VID_413C&PID_2106\7&18941B42&0&0000                     : HID Keyboard Device
HID\VID_413C&PID_3012\7&2BB6D9D5&0&0000                     : HID-compliant mouse
2 matching device(s) found.
 
============ 
ACPI Devices 
============ 
ACPI\FIXEDBUTTON\2&DABA3FF&0                                : ACPI Fixed Feature Button
ACPI\GENUINEINTEL_-_X86_FAMILY_15_MODEL_4\_0                : Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.53GHz
ACPI\PNP0000\4&1506BB2E&0                                   : Programmable interrupt controller
ACPI\PNP0100\4&1506BB2E&0                                   : System timer
ACPI\PNP0200\4&1506BB2E&0                                   : Direct memory access controller
ACPI\PNP0401\4&1506BB2E&0                                   : ECP Printer Port (LPT1)
ACPI\PNP0501\1                                              : Communications Port (COM1)
ACPI\PNP0800\4&1506BB2E&0                                   : System speaker
ACPI\PNP0A03\4                                              : PCI bus
ACPI\PNP0B00\4&1506BB2E&0                                   : System CMOS/real time clock
ACPI\PNP0C01\1                                              : System board
ACPI\PNP0C01\B                                              : System board
ACPI\PNP0C04\4&1506BB2E&0                                   : Numeric data processor
ACPI\PNP0C0C\2&DABA3FF&0                                    : ACPI Power Button
ACPI_HAL\PNP0C08\0                                          : Microsoft ACPI-Compliant System
ROOT\ACPI_HAL\0000                                          : ACPI Uniprocessor PC
16 matching device(s) found.
 
============ 
 HDA Audio 
============ 
No matching devices found.
 
============ 
RAID Devices 
============ 
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_24DB&SUBSYS_01D51028&REV_02\3&172E68DD&0&F9
    Name: Intel(R) 82801EB Ultra ATA Storage Controllers - 24DB
    Hardware ID's:
        PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_24DB&SUBSYS_01D51028&REV_02
        PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_24DB&SUBSYS_01D51028
        PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_24DB&CC_01018A
        PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_24DB&CC_0101
    Compatible ID's:
        PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_24DB&REV_02
        PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_24DB
        PCI\VEN_8086&CC_01018A
        PCI\VEN_8086&CC_0101
        PCI\VEN_8086
        PCI\CC_01018A
        PCI\CC_0101
1 matching device(s) found.

Is that enough information?

  • DaveWI
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Re: Dell Lan Drivers

Oh, and BTW if you didn't read my first post thoroughly I only asked:

My questions are thus:
Are these older Dell drivers in the driver packs? Simple question, didn't need all that information
What about newer model Dells, I have about 11 different models I am going to be dealing with?Another simple question
If Dell drivers are not in the packs, is there a Dell pack of drivers I haven't heard about?

I never asked to help me fix this, as I solved my problem on my own. I only wondered about Dell drivers in general in relation to the driverpacks. But there's you information anyway, since I don't need any help with universal imaging, is this in the correct forum now?

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Re: Dell Lan Drivers

the answer was equally well stated
- You were given a simple answer; sorry you did not include the HWIDs, the question can't be accurately answered.
- We can't tell you if a driver is included unless you provide the HWID. Which you did not. Even though it was requested...

- since we have users deploying to tens of thousands of dells, and it has not been reported as missing, common sense tells us that it must be included. Did you not read the part about three million downloads a week, you just figure none of them have any dells? (yet another simple answer to your question)

the point of driverpacks is to include every known driver, and we have been doing it for 7 years... what do you think the odds are a major manufacturer like dell is not included.

- Since you don't need any help with sysprep i guess we are done here, have a nice day

- missing code tags added to your post

- PS since its not a driver issue then it must be a SysPrep issue and is therefore in the correct forum.

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Re: Dell Lan Drivers

Hi Dave.
Welcome to DriverPacks.net.
Sorry, but OverFlow is correct in a way.  We really can't help without at least the HWIDs of the system in question.  We're working on a web database that will let users look up their hardware and tell them what DriverPacks will support them.  But that's a ways off yet.
I'm pretty sure that HWID is supported, I'll have a look.
*Edit
Yup, it's supported in DriverPack LAN \d\l\i1\e100b325.inf (signed too).
If you take a look in the %systemroot%\setupapi.log you'll find the driver installation step by step and the clue to why it failed may be in there.  Just open it in notepad and do a search for your HWID. (VEN_8086&DEV_1050)

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Re: Dell Lan Drivers

Well, something's fishy then with either the method of install, or the dvd.

Thank you for the replies, I don't know what went wrong. I'll be trying again this week and we'll see what happens.

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Re: Dell Lan Drivers

the best course of action is to not reinvent the wheel...

SysPrep is a real PITA, and it is way too easy to mess yourself up!
I won't even do sysprep unless a gun is held to my head wink.
But... there are a lot of you crazy sysprepers that are on our team!

There is over five years of experience here on these pages...
Please read through them and avoid the pitfalls / mistakes made by others.
One bad decision can cost you a lot of hair pulling and grief...
Even if it took you a week to read through this forum you would be months ahead in the long run big_smile tongue.
That is a fact, and not an exaggeration...

It has to be the method... Again, Please look to see what others have implemented and have succeeded with!

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Re: Dell Lan Drivers

Well I am following someone over at MSFN's step by step, but I can't do it all exactly because she used VMware Workstation, and my company won't purchase a license for it, so I'm doing it on a live box. That's the only difference basically.

Well back to the grind.

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Re: Dell Lan Drivers

Just an FYI it worked this time with no issues. Either the last DVD was corrupt, the file was corrupt, or something irregular. It pulled the driver from the driverpacks folder according to the log.

oddball one.

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Re: Dell Lan Drivers

Glad to hear it!

I wish you continued success!

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