Topic: [SOLVED BUG #272] Extra "D" Directory after KTD applied

Is it by design that the driverpacks are moved to

C:\WINDOWS\DriverPacks\D\D

(Notice the double D ...)

Regards,
Phoenix

Re: [SOLVED BUG #272] Extra "D" Directory after KTD applied

No it is not. Please post your export of the following registry value:

HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrenvtVersion\DevicePath

to verify that it's similar there.

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Re: [SOLVED BUG #272] Extra "D" Directory after KTD applied

Devicepath points to C:\D\....etc AND to %KTD%\D\D\....etc

See this:

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Only C:\D is moved to C:\WINDOWS\Driverpacks\D, so devicepath entry's are only for the last half correct ...

System variable KTD is correctly set to C:\WINDOWS\Driverpacks ...

Re: [SOLVED BUG #272] Extra "D" Directory after KTD applied

Ok, so it's actually two issues:

1) the DevicePath value is not cleaned up if you've used method 2

2) KTD is applied incorrectly, though it does work (aesthetical & pragmatic flaw)

Could you please post the Settings section of your DPsFnshr.ini?

Founder of DriverPacks.net — wimleers.com

Re: [SOLVED BUG #272] Extra "D" Directory after KTD applied

My DPsFnshr.ini (NOT edited/changed by me from my .iso, generated by DriverPack Base) :

[Settings]
; DO NOT SET THIS MANUALLY, LET THE DriverPacks BASE DO IT FOR YOU! (may NOT contain any spaced, if it does, all exceptions must be adapted to be compatible!)
DPsRoot	= "%SystemDrive%"
; DO NOT SET THIS MANUALLY, LET THE DriverPacks BASE DO IT FOR YOU!
KTD	= "paths:D"
; system variables supported: %SystemDrive%, %SystemRoot% and %WinDir%, one
; location cannot be used as KTDlocation: the root directory specified in
; [Settings]\DPsRoot
KTDlocation	= "%SystemRoot%\DriverPacks"

Last edited by Toolman (2006-10-03 07:39:38)

Re: [SOLVED BUG #272] Extra "D" Directory after KTD applied

Yep, that's fine. Then it must be my mistake. Will try to reproduce this.

Founder of DriverPacks.net — wimleers.com

Re: [SOLVED BUG #272] Extra "D" Directory after KTD applied

ps.:

I made 1 addition to presetup.cmd (these work flawless) :

REM +==========================================================================+
REM |   Finding CD/DVD driveletter.                                            |
REM |--------------------------------------------------------------------------|
SET TAGFILE=\OEM
FOR %%i IN (C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y) DO IF EXIST "%%i:%TAGFILE%" SET CDDRIVE=%%i:

MD %systemdrive%\D
compact /C /S /I /F /Q %systemdrive%\D

Last two lines create the D-folder with nt-compression enabled for all what is unpacked there.

If all driverpacks are used it saves 1.402.603.873 bytes - 871.864.604 bytes = 530.739.269 bytes when installed ...

Performance would not be an issue in this case I think ...

Re: [SOLVED BUG #272] Extra "D" Directory after KTD applied

That explains alot.

Please remove the compact command. It's completely useless: the %systemdrive%\D directory is only used for temporary storage of the DriverPacks. If you don't use KTD, all DriverPacks are simply deleted, if you do use KTD, then you should apply this command on the directory specified in the KTDlocation entry of your DPsFnshr.ini. I will add this functionality in one of the next versions of the DriverPacks Finisher anyway, by the way wink

That only leaves one of the two issues:

me wrote:

the DevicePath value is not cleaned up if you've used method 2

I've fixed that in the current nightly already!

Founder of DriverPacks.net — wimleers.com

Re: [SOLVED BUG #272] Extra "D" Directory after KTD applied

Thank you ! smile

Re: [SOLVED BUG #272] Extra "D" Directory after KTD applied

same problem here

C:\WINDOWS\DriverPacks\D\D

HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrenvtVersion\DevicePath

is too large for me to post here... (it doesnt let me post it... is there a particular section you need?)

here is a portion

%KTD%\D\D\W\X\5;%KTD%\D\D\W\X\6;%KTD%\D\D\W\X\7;%KTD%\D\D\W\Z\2;%KTD%\D\D\W\Z\3;%KTD%\D\D\W\Z\4
[Settings]
; DO NOT SET THIS MANUALLY, LET THE DriverPacks BASE DO IT FOR YOU! (may NOT contain any spaced, if it does, all exceptions must be adapted to be compatible!)
DPsRoot	= "%SystemDrive%"
; DO NOT SET THIS MANUALLY, LET THE DriverPacks BASE DO IT FOR YOU!
KTD	= "paths:D"
; system variables supported: %SystemDrive%, %SystemRoot% and %WinDir%, one
; location cannot be used as KTDlocation: the root directory specified in
; [Settings]\DPsRoot
KTDlocation	= "%SystemRoot%\DriverPacks"

Last edited by ebin25 (2006-10-03 12:51:53)

Re: [SOLVED BUG #272] Extra "D" Directory after KTD applied

Bâshrat the Sneaky wrote:

That explains alot.

Please remove the compact command. It's completely useless: the %systemdrive%\D directory is only used for temporary storage of the DriverPacks. If you don't use KTD, all DriverPacks are simply deleted, if you do use KTD, then you should apply this command on the directory specified in the KTDlocation entry of your DPsFnshr.ini. I will add this functionality in one of the next versions of the DriverPacks Finisher anyway, by the way wink

That only leaves one of the two issues:

me wrote:

the DevicePath value is not cleaned up if you've used method 2

I've fixed that in the current nightly already!

Actualy it explaines nothing, because NT-compression is transparant to the 'bug' in the driverpack installation ...

Re: [SOLVED BUG #272] Extra "D" Directory after KTD applied

same results with latest release

Re: [SOLVED BUG #272] Extra "D" Directory after KTD applied

Toolman wrote:

Actualy it explaines nothing, because NT-compression is transparant to the 'bug' in the driverpack installation ...

Well, I haven't tested it yet, but I think that command changes the permissions of that directory (and its subdirectories and files), which would cause the copy error. You're the only one with this error, and apart from that: it's useless. It would be useful however to apply that command on the %systemroot%\DriverPacks directory.

ebin25 wrote:

same results with latest release

I'm aware of that.

Founder of DriverPacks.net — wimleers.com

Re: [SOLVED BUG #272] Extra "D" Directory after KTD applied

Hi Wim

got home not too long ago...
before I got to work, I had let the testrig run a KTD install
I just looked at the windows\driverpacks\D\D folder mentioned here.

yep; I got it too, hotfixpacks by RVM/Meulc, then DPsBase 6.10 in method2, KTD all.

hmmm
when you first create a folder %systemroot%\driverpacks\D, and then move /y  %systemdrive%\D %systemroot%\driverpacks\D, you will get a nested D.. or windows\driverpacks\D\D

the desktop.ini thing was there too (which happens here when I do KTD, and not when I don't use KTD)

The answer was 42?
Kind regards, Jaak.

Re: [SOLVED BUG #272] Extra "D" Directory after KTD applied

i see that jtdoom has the same problem as i with the desktop.ini file ... 

did u use nlite ?

i also use methode 2 and KTD base 6.10, nlite 1.2b or 1.2rc


so you see that it is a problem only with DRIVERPACK not with anything else!

Last edited by mikelm (2006-10-06 17:54:35)

Re: [SOLVED BUG #272] Extra "D" Directory after KTD applied

Bâshrat the Sneaky wrote:
Toolman wrote:

Actualy it explaines nothing, because NT-compression is transparant to the 'bug' in the driverpack installation ...

Well, I haven't tested it yet, but I think that command changes the permissions of that directory (and its subdirectories and files), which would cause the copy error. You're the only one with this error, and apart from that: it's useless. It would be useful however to apply that command on the %systemroot%\DriverPacks directory.

ebin25 wrote:

same results with latest release

I'm aware of that.

Persmissions will not change because I turned on compression on that folder.
Compression uses the SYSTEM account, where I checked that persmissions are not changed.
(I am busy with MCSE 2003 and that's why I checked all of this. Windows XP is the exam I may skip, because I have 4 core MCSE 2000 certificates.)

Regards,
The Toolman

Re: [SOLVED BUG #272] Extra "D" Directory after KTD applied

hi
about that desktop.ini popup

I think we should help in trying to narrow down on what causes it.
so; what did I try so far. (so you don't have to, or can verify..)

NO RVM (clean source CD), all packs, KTD all, m2, does it

a suspicion I had about DotnetFX,
I selected the ATI control panel (does not use it), on clean source, m2, ktd.
and got the popup.

unpacked all drivers
searched for a desktop.ini. (nada, zilch)

searched drive what contains the clean source folders.
none in OSes.

will try to eliminate packs, one by one. (each time, M2, KTD all).
will get on the machine I looked at this morning and look at its finisher log.

Last edited by jtdoom (2006-10-07 05:30:46)

The answer was 42?
Kind regards, Jaak.

Re: [SOLVED BUG #272] Extra "D" Directory after KTD applied

jtdoom wrote:

hi
about that desktop.ini popup

I think we should help in trying to narrow down on what causes it.
so; what did I try so far. (so you don't have to, or can verify..)

NO RVM (clean source CD), all packs, KTD all, m2, does it

a suspicion I had about DotnetFX,
I selected the ATI control panel (does not use it), on clean source, m2, ktd.
and got the popup.

unpacked all drivers
searched for a desktop.ini. (nada, zilch)

searched drive what contains the clean source folders.
none in OSes.

will try to eliminate packs, one by one. (each time, M2, KTD all).
will get on the machine I looked at this morning and look at its finisher log.

I'm always amazed by your neverending energy for tracking down these nasty small but annoying bugs! Just saying thanks wink smile

Founder of DriverPacks.net — wimleers.com

Re: [SOLVED BUG #272] Extra "D" Directory after KTD applied

hmmm actually searched for desktop.*

sol.exe to keep the mouse happy wink

the finisher says that it moves the drivers inside "C:\D to C:\windows\driverpacks\D"

now, in windows command, if that D in driverpacks does not exist because you did not create it, and you do
move /y C:\D C:\windows\driverpacks\D
then you do not have the nested D.

BUT, finisher uses another command module, is it not?
HOW does that do things... I dunno

Last edited by jtdoom (2006-10-07 17:04:07)

The answer was 42?
Kind regards, Jaak.

Re: [SOLVED BUG #272] Extra "D" Directory after KTD applied

@ MIKHELM

I actually have used Nlite  for removing DotnetFX and then did NOT select the dotnetFX addon in RVM, then did m2/KTD and remember I still had it. (I should take notes in a testing logbook... memory could fool me, but I doubt it.)
But, When I tried that, Base610xxx was still an RC version... so it don't count in the current "what's been tried" list of things.

I think I'll use the folowing approach
select only four packs, do it to it.
if the issue is gone, test the other four.
if it comes back, test two out of these four.
is it gone?
test one out of remaining 2

if that narrows it down to a pack... which is possible? Then start removing folders in the pack and repack it.
same method.
half / half etc...

something requires a localised resource, and having said that, it could be related to settings in winnt.sif?

next week, I'll probably build me the third testrig, and I have opted for an ATI card (just for testing that other line of thoughts, which is that it could be an NVidia thing...
BUT... The NVidia videodriver control panel is properly localised (it offers me Dutch menus)

Whatever the cause (maybe even that nested D in D), I would like to help nail it.

Last edited by jtdoom (2006-10-07 17:19:59)

The answer was 42?
Kind regards, Jaak.

Re: [SOLVED BUG #272] Extra "D" Directory after KTD applied

i will test other way .. i wil take a pure xp home , with  selfmade winnt.sif for unattended install an then all driverpack , then  i see if it comes up again  or not ..  so we see if there are some interferences between nlite and driverpack , but i did.n´t think that are driverpacks the reason.

another idea  is to use an older base with the newest packs and see if the desktop.ini is still there...

think i would test this at first ...

let you know the result ..

Re: [SOLVED BUG #272] Extra "D" Directory after KTD applied

6.08.6 does not do it, using latest packs.

imho, this kinda narrows it down to the KTD changes done in 09 and 10.

the nested D may very well be at the heart of this.
just saw the popup, with only half and a half.. using the base 610
(I decided to get the ATI out of graphics A)

Graphics A (repacked, put it in third party)
sound A
mass
chips
Lan

Last edited by jtdoom (2006-10-07 18:53:32)

The answer was 42?
Kind regards, Jaak.

Re: [SOLVED BUG #272] Extra "D" Directory after KTD applied

the idea for the changes in KTD was 'erm',  ours.
I had suggested move rather than copy/delete.

already doing a half of the above
I need mass storage, and see no reason THAT will require localised.
Just like chipsets should not be localised.

but also sound control panels can be localised...

since mine only needs the HDaudio by realtek, i'll try with only that subfolder too
( a slimmed sound A, put in third packs)

The answer was 42?
Kind regards, Jaak.

Re: [SOLVED BUG #272] Extra "D" Directory after KTD applied

base 6.086 may do it not but with this autologin dosen´t work with xp home anymore ..  and also not with 6.09. but with 6.10 autologin works again ..

i see no references betwee n all this mess .-(

we are turning in the circle ...

Re: [SOLVED BUG #272] Extra "D" Directory after KTD applied

ok  with base 6.07rc7 it works without deskto.ini and have not selected TEXTMODE drivers ..