Topic: e7221 intel driver for xp64

Greetings Sirs,

I want to thank you all for your valuable work. Since discovering your site just a short time ago, I am very happy to say my work as a shop tech has become much sharper. Thanks!

I am coming in hopes that the minds here can solve a problem that I have had for a few months now.

I received a Dell Poweredge SC420 back in the summer. I got it to test 64-bit XP professional, to see if XP would run faster on a 64-bit processor. Its been a wonderful machine, and has in fact become my main box, but here's the problem: there doesn't appear to be a driver for the on board E7221 Intel graphics chip designed for this OS, only Server 2003.

I've tried looking throughout the web, but after many long hours and downloads that didn't work, I have to admit defeat. Not easy for me to do: I honestly consider the web to be able to produce anything I need, and I encourage googling to my customers as the first point of attacking any problem outside my realm of knowledge.

Can anyone here help with this? Much thanks for your time,

P.S. Oh, I forgot to mention that I searched through the threads before posting. Someone last year posted a link to a driver from Fujitsu, but the link is dead.

BS

Last edited by Bob Spornak (2010-11-10 14:04:37)

Re: e7221 intel driver for xp64

Welcome Bob!

Thanks for the props! Music to our ears. That's certainly why we are here an what we are about.

Did you read any of our posts related to XP 64 and DriverPacks for it (Feature Requests has a very long thread about it)?

XP 64 bit has a handful of very enthusiastic followers. Unfortunately it is junk. It was a very shortlived MS experiment that was abandoned quickly in the shadow of Vista, both by MS and by hardware suppliers. I recomend you go to Win7, your hair will grow back out and that bruise on your forehead will heal tongue. If you really hate the idea of moving to Win7 (IE as much as I hate Vista) then perhaps you should explore a Win 2k3 to workstation conversion instead of fighting with xp64. That will be a much more successful / productive investment of your time.

I know that is not what you wanted to hear and I am sorry for that because i was really impressed with your first post.

Welcome to DriverPacks and have an Awesome Day!

Jeff

PS did you try to force install the 2k3 drivers for your hardware? IE modify the the appropriate 2k3 drivers INF file?

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Re: e7221 intel driver for xp64

Hi Jeff, and thanks heartily for your time and expertise! Forgive me if this sounds like a 'Dear Diary,' but I feel the need to ask higher-ups for their wisdom and guidance.

Your advice is understood, and no worries about the answers, I am beginning to understand why I have this problem. I had never used XP 64-bit before. On the advice of a friend who works with servers more than PCs, and who sold me the machine, I thought it would be better to use XP 64 on this 64-bit processor than the good-ole XP Pro which I use on all my other machines. Until now, all of my experience and troubleshooting has been with User-oriented OS's. I'm green on how to use a Server OS, and although I've sat on the trigger to make the switch to 2003 (or any other if you think it wise), I was afraid to pull for fear of getting out of my depth. Once before I installed 2003 for a client. It didn't seem to be as simple to use as a regular OS, and I was glad that someone else was going to handle the setup once I was done. I know this kinda sounds lame, but I really have no background on server OS's. Even though I have a network, I don't have  to run an actual server, so I couldn't see investing the time to learn 2003 and hence know nothing about it. I could make the change, though, if I could learn where to learn, so to speak.

Shoehorning a driver into working with a different OS? Oh yeah, done that lots of times. That's what is hacking me off about this one--it won't play nice. I'm not sure how to force it. Change the INF, maybe, but I spent time today looking through it and I can't tell where the INF signals which OS its for. I didn't even want to post back a reply until I had given it a good go. But, man up I must, and face that I'm out of my depth. I'm not hung up on XP64, I'm much more practical than to give my heart to one particular OS. If you have time for advice, I'll gladly take it to heart coming from the pros.

You guys are the best!

BS

Re: e7221 intel driver for xp64

post the drivers INF file in code tags and i'll mod it for ya to run a test with, if you like.

My best advise is to go to win7 it's quite nice and will unleash the power of your x64 processor as best as can be had with a windows OS. Simplest Easiest First...

More on 2k3 Workstation. You don't need to understand server to install 2k3 because you won't be useing any of the server features. in it's basic form it's not much different than XP. If you can repair XP then you fully understand 2k3 (Short of the server specific features that you won't need or use or install.) Before 2k3, server and workstation were the same OS (aside from any server specific features like DNS server etc...) IE windows 2000 server and windows 2000 workstation. MS does not provide a 2k3 workstation edition (xp64 was a half finished attempt to release "2k3 workstation")... however there is much documentation on how to hack 2k3 server into a viable 2k3 workstation (A working and better supported xp 64 solution). I think you would be amazed how similar XP and 2k3 are at least at the root level. The biggest downside is you would need a 2k3 server license, Since you work in a shop I am guessing you can get one without much trouble.

Again win7 is better and easier... i only suggested 2k3 workstation as a solution because i did not know if you had a specific reason to be married to XP. If there isn't one don't bother just get NT6 in your life!

Jeff

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Re: e7221 intel driver for xp64

I wouldn't bother using any nt6 OS, the hardware wouldn't handle it.
  Checking the spec sheet here the server came with a Pentium 4.  Which is not a 64-bit processor.
That's why there are no 64-bit drivers on the Dell site.  While the chipset supports 64-bit memory addressing, the CPU must also be 64-bit for the OS to work properly.

I think you're just asking for a world of hurt going this route.
Stick with W2k3 (32-bit) or XP.  You'll be much happier.

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Re: e7221 intel driver for xp64

Ah... NIce pickup Mr_S - I simply assumed based on his query that he had a 64 bit platform... My mistake

I am so glad you have my back! TY

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Re: e7221 intel driver for xp64

@Jeff

I'm not sure it was your mistake. If I am in fact mistaken about my system's processor, then I have to take it from there! Thanks again for your kind assistance.

@Mr S

You seem fairly confident in your reading of the situation. Since it challenges a rather basic assumption I've been working under, I'll need to beg some more time from you, if you will so indulge, to explain how.

I'll offer up that my operating assumption is based upon the fact that my SC420 BIOS states that the processor is a 3.4GHz, 64-bit processor that is 64-bit capable, i.e. capable of running 64-bit software. All the research I have done seems to support the belief that the EM64T processor is a 64-bit processor within the definition of a CPU that is capable of running, among other things, a 64-bit OS. I do know there is a difference in name between the PEntium Ds and the Pentium 4s, but I'm not sure how that precludes a P4 from the '64-bit club?' I'll offer up two brief examples of what I have found. First, from IBM's website:

   "The discussion whether or not EM64T and AMD64 really are 64-bit processors can be confusing to some because Intel calls its architecture “Extended Memory 64 Technology”. We know that it extends the IA32 instruction set. Therefore, are EM64T and AMD64 processors “real” 64-bit chips? The answer is absolutely yes. When these processors operate in 64-bit mode, the addresses are 64-bit, the GPRs are 64 bits wide, and the ALUs are able to process data in 64-bit chunks. Therefore, these processors are full-fledged 64-bit processors in this mode." (http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/tips0475.html)

Also, an extract from Wiki's article entitled "64-bit:"

   "64-bit microprocessor architectures (as of 2010[update]) include:

    * The 64-bit extension created by AMD to Intel's x86 architecture (later licensed by Intel); commonly known as "x86-64", "AMD64", or "x64":
          o AMD's AMD64 extensions (used in Athlon 64, Opteron, Sempron, Turion 64, Phenom, Athlon II and Phenom II processors)
          o Intel's Intel 64 extensions (used in newer Celeron, Pentium 4, Pentium D, Xeon, Core 2, Core i3, Core i5, Core i7, and Atom processors)
          o VIA Technologies' 64-bit extensions, used in the VIA Nano processors"

Two things. First, its essentially a moot point for my machine, as I don't want to use either Vista or 7 (no disrespect to the eminent Jeff!!)  Second, I have no doubt in your knowledge or experience, so I'm not looking to win an argument with my betters. I'm trying to understand where I could have gotten it wrong, and also to help anyone else who also may believe mistakenly about the 64-bit architecture who stumbles into this thread.

(By the way--I know the message boards are full of what seem to be endless hairsplitting arguments over which definitions are the correct ones, and anyone intelligent enough to understand the material also knows that those sorts of arguments are essentially unwinnable. I won't carry the argument any further, I will just read what you or others have to say. And please forgive my error if this is in the wrong section.)

So, thanks so much for any time you feel to take, and I will assume no wrong if you do not wish to spend anymore. You guys are still the best, and your site will always have my support.

BS

Re: e7221 intel driver for xp64

here is a no brainer way to find out

http://downloads.vmware.com/d/details/p … hkYmRwKg==

That app is provided by vmware so users can easily determine if a machine is eligible to run a 64 bit version of an OS (be it windows, linux or other). Run it and you have your answer.

Can't make it any easier than that big_smile


PS are you going to try the 2k3 workstation route if you do in fact have a 64 bit machine? I would if you aren't interested in going with Win7. Vista and XP64 are garbage.

PSS It's entirely ok if you don't personally like NT6, you are certainly entitled to have an opinion. It's your machine after all. That was why I gave you several viable options and also offering the option of trying to help you fix / force the xp64 driver (though not recomended... lead a horse to water wink). Even after I said that my experience is that xp64 is not worth the trouble ;P.

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Re: e7221 intel driver for xp64

I used to own a Socket 478 P4 (2.8GHz) and it was not x64 capable (even with the extensions, which only allow for more RAM).  IIRC, the only Socket 478 CPU that supported 64-bit was the xeon.
Your system uses Socket-T, so it's possible.

Well, every document I can find at Dell states 64-bit OS are not supported (by omission). XP64 wouldn't install at all if the system didn't support it.  You'd get a cryptic error at the end of txtsetup "not supported".  So if it installed at all, then I guess it's supported.

OverFlow wrote:

Even after I said that my experience is that xp64 is not worth the trouble ;P.

Indeed.  I installed XP64 on exactly 3 machines and they have collectively been a support nightmare far surpassing all other machines combined!  Migrating them to Vista 64 was the best move for me (Win7 is 1000% better).

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