@mr_smartepants You missed an awesome opportunity at a quote pyramid... aaaagh!
I was trying to keep the length down... and gave up. LOL.
after thought... I'm admin, I could still add the pyramid to your post rofl
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@mr_smartepants You missed an awesome opportunity at a quote pyramid... aaaagh!
I was trying to keep the length down... and gave up. LOL.
after thought... I'm admin, I could still add the pyramid to your post rofl
Two points,
1) Overflow suggests you probably don't need to update mass storage... (snip)
2) (Snip)... the way I'd do it) you can have a modified image (e.g. where you have added service packs / updates etc.) its just that you should always start from this point and then add driver packs last... and for your project, you will not have full success unless you add mass storage to a previously unmodified by driver packs image
That is how I do it that is how I tell everyone to do it. Run DriverPacks BASE and add DriverPacks to a COPY of your final image. If you want to add DriverPacks again make another copy of your final add it to that. Big GOLD STAR and two points awarded to botus for good form on our forum.
I would like to say at this point that the last line of your statement is not entirely accurate.
IF you add DriverPacks LAST (note the big if and the big last)
AND IF you have NOT changed the image. (AT ALL)
THEN you have two, count them two, One...Two. Two options !
Option one. Remove DriverPacks. Run DriverPacks BASE on the source with no packs selected. Poof, it's gone.
Option two. Update DriverPacks. Run DriverPacks BASE on the source with updated packs selected. (it's removed first, then updated )
Special note... If those "if"s are not met... and changes were made after DriverPacks was added. It makes pea soup out of your core windows installation files. you were working on a copy right?
Extra special note: Windows does not run on pea soup alone.
I told you before ... dp_install_tool has NOTHING to do with installing drivers DURING windows setup. You could REMOVE dp_install_tool.cmd and windows would install the exact same way... <-read that again [no really read it] We put it on there as a convenience to tech's, they can drop in the install disk and update and older machine by running that script. It's an after thought, a freebee, extra, a perk, Icing on the cake, independent, unrelated, unique, never to be used during windows setup ever. It IS to be used on a RUNNING WORKING system.
You are trying to put a square peg in a round hole. Doesn't work that way.
you said you followed all the directions for SAD... And you probably did them perfect.
but since you updated a POST install tool it did not affect your INSTALL.
You did not update your install, and, I know it is hard to belive, BUT it is not updated. Because you never updated it. It's that simple.
I am sure you worked really hard, but you worked on the wrong thing.
Forget what you know, it does not apply to your current task. (second time i told you this)
I would expect nothing different if you did that correctly one thousand times over...
You built a really nice screen door, NO you can not install it on a submarine. Sorry.
Did you download this image off the net?
Until you understand that integrating drivers into an installation is different than updating drivers on a working system we are not going to be able to go any further in your education.
your failure to understand this simple fact is why your windows 7 lite image fails.
pay attention. Stay on point. (we are not talking about Win7 ATM)
I can't cram ten years driverpacks experience into a post, you need to accept that I have 6000 more posts and Admin status for a reason. Been there done that got the t-shirt. I can bet money on your next mistake and nobody would take that bet .
you are doing fairly well so far you got the first half right. answering questions, asking fair questions, you are polite.
the second half of the process here is; now you need to listen, carefully, apply what is given (test advised action) and report back. (Do NOT deviate from specifically given instructions, at least not until I have granted you "the right to run with scissors"... or you are successful)
Bomb expert on radio to field tech. "Cut the red wire"
Field tech {muttering to self} "Old f*ck don't know sh*t"
BOOM!!!!
first half good, second half bad... work on that second half
http://driverpacks.net/driverpacks/wind … ss-storage
also give me the same... Emailing Wim now (AKA Bâshrat the Sneaky)
Yes we can add missing torrent files but I am having trouble remembering how. I also have a very impressive (read; allmost every pack ever) archive of DriverPacks if needed
Found my notes, i can refresh files if anyone wants me to.
mass storage has to be integrated into the disc with DriverPacks BASE. It becomes a part of the installation file set. Otherwise your install would not be able to find a HDD to install onto.
in order to upgrade / swap mass storage you must use DriverPacks BASE to slipstream the new version. It is unlikely that you need a newer version. has your install failed on a machine?
where did you get your install disc?
this is starting to remind me of F*cnutFour...
replace chipset and CPU with chipset.
replace any other pack you like.
Don't mess with Mass storage unless you want to recreate the disc.
TEST that much... Does it work?
Forget SAD, ERASE ERASE ERASE... SAD stands for Stand Alone, you are not doing stand alone you are doing an install, totally different. doesn't apply. doesn't matter. is not a factor. Unrelated. horse of a different color. Apples and oranges. Cart before the horse. dissimilar.
it's either or. A) you are doing an install OR B) you are using SAD on a running machine.
It can't be both, you are doing a windows install... SAD does not do windows install.
SAD is for installing drivers when you are NOT DOING AN INSTALL. Thus the name Stand Alone Driver install It doesn't require windows setup to work... It can STAND ALONE.
there is no program to update during an install, since there is no program. the program is windows setup and it's included with windows.
Quit trying to make something so simple seem hard. It's not. Wim and I wrote this stuff to be super easy for an entry level tech or advanced user, and it is. You are WAY overthinking this.
ONE step at a time. just update the existing packs and test. and report here
"Just Do It"
Nike
Where did you get this install image?
click on search at top of page. enter "nightlies" as the search term and "subject only" as where to search, all forums as the scope. - BAM... list of public nightlies. Sorted by date, most recent on top.
PS if you ask the same question again for the fourth time i am going to make fun of you. I have answered your question in detail four times now. the answer is not going to change even if you ask again a thousand times.
@techdud Way over his head dude... baby steps
Woo HOO , taht sounds awesome !!!!
yes, chipset drivers should only be for on the motherboard hardware .
Good to see you Ultravy
Tech!! Good to see you... thought you got sucked into a black hole or something
you may add any packs you like, or remove them, simply by adding or removing them. (8.3 filename applies)
except mass storage... you must slipstream mass storage.
All the other packs are extracted and processed at the time of the installation. Whatever is there gets processed .
IDK what your HWIDs are. you can always search for the HWIDs of your hardware in the packs, that's what I'd do.
i tested two of the listed packs, and the new dll was not required. techdud left them as they should be packed for DriverPacks BASE XP slipstream. Try it just replacing the packs first. (except mass storage, mass storage must be slipstreamed with DriverPacks BASE)
yes if you want to be able to support any video card, even really really old ones then add the 3rd party DriverPack.
Did you make any changes to your XP install disc after you added DriverPacks?
Did you fail to make a copy of the disc from immediately before you added DriverPacks?
if the answer to either of these questions is yes then it is unlikely that your mass storage drivers can be updated.
the other drivers may be updated simply by replacing them with newer versions (woo hoo)
it's that simple for all but mass storage
All of those packs require SAD3??? I don't think so. What did i miss?
edit.....
did Techdud pack them with newer 7zip?... ack!
See this topic,
http://forum.driverpacks.net/viewtopic.php?id=5928
if he did we simply update the DLL on your disc, no problem.
IDK until you answer my question
IF a nt5x86 pack is SAD3 dependent. (This should NOT be the case.)
Please give details IE links to these packs and list of affected drivers.
Are you trying to update a DriverPacks slipstreamed XP install disc?
or are you trying to add SAD3 as an additional feature to an Install / repair disc?
Help me to help you
[GUIRunOnce]
%SystemDrive%\Dp_Install_Tool.cmd
is the short answer... BUT what NT5 packs "require" SAD3???
Related help: http://unattended.msfn.org/unattended.xp/view/web/18/
this is going to require some detailed / specific instructions from me to make work...
IF a nt5x86 pack is SAD3 dependent. (This should NOT be the case.)
Please give details IE links to these packs and list of affected drivers.
There will be issues with the GUIRunOnce listed above... related to timing
http://unattended.msfn.org/unattended.xp/view/web/31/
Guirunonce runs AFTER user logon as that user, RunOnceEx runs PRIOR to user logon. If AutoLogon is enabled they will seem to run at the same time . We will not be able to run commands after a command that requires / forces a reboot, the rest won't run or will be ended while running
. I have similar requirements for my UAXP install and have working scripts
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the included version of SAD works just fine with windows XP. the newer versions support newer OS's.
the newer versions don't do a better job for XP. They simply work with NT6, and the original does not.
Why do you wish to KTD (Keep The Drivers), which is supported in all versions of SAD.
again vague, no details or examples, no logs, no HWIDs, no drivers mentioned, no OS version (SP3, MCE, Pro) no description of your process or environment or application. is this one PC or many, how many. During install, post install. is this a machine you are attempting to repair?
so here is an answer befitting your question.
yes you can install some (not all, not even most, just some... a few, ... depending) drivers with no user input, as described in my last post.
NO you CAN'T make a windows install that you can just plug anything you want into it and it won't ask for a driver. NO you must do something (driver install like SAD) post install of most core hardware.
pre - during install
1=If driverpacks has been added to your install media and you install clean you won't see any driver prompts. .
post install
1-extend windows native support KTD only works with very simple drivers, IE monitor drivers. It will FAIL with any driver that requires an installer (video), and will fail with most drivers that are more than a simple INF/SYS file arrangment
2-Run SAD after hardware upgrade
or stop wasting my time and ask a question with a specific problem
(The specific OS, the specific device and it's HWID, a link to the driver for that device, the versions of everything and a description of how to duplicate the issue. I think that last one you got half right)
I could ask you "I have a truck that gets ten miles to the gallon, can you tell me how much gas is in the tank?"
you could probably guess that it's not much, but telling me "Not Much" isn't a useful answer is it. but it's the best answer you got for me with the details i provided ain't it.
It's supposed to come up when you plug in new hardware, that is what it does.
Not sure what the question is here? It's working correctly... but you want to fix it?
Perhaps you mean KTD (Keep The Driver). That is useful for like monitors and HID, and a few years ago Modem packs. KTD only works for really simple driver types. KTD can be selected when you slipstream the DriverPacks. It's possible to do KTD post install but you will have to do a little dance. KTD never worked very well, (read) there may be no fix .
please be more clear / specific for a better answer
Since Vista and Win7 are both NT6 The methods are extremely similar. Should be no issue to repeat what you already did, and make a few adjustments as required.
put a link up to the file and we'll see if we get any testers
Good work!
There has been some debate about two packs or one.
USB seems to be a chipset level driver... If something makes sense to you try it .
could split out the two fat cats into a 3rd party DriverPack making it an option... with or without utility.
good question,
Best option is delete them. And nothing halts the driver install, and nothing is annoyed in Device Mangler, and no annoying missing file popups. A test will be required. Several would be better .
What is the result of said test? ... I can fix that... if needed.
changing files can and will invalidate a driver to windows setup.
(Break Driver Signing)
the full explanation is here http://forum.driverpacks.net/viewtopic.php?id=2461
but basically you just
1) remove the folders and the associated entries in the packs INI file.
2) use 7zip to repack.
Optional:
If you are really living large you can use this method to pack it. http://forum.driverpacks.net/viewtopic. … 538#p57538 That helps some of our sister sites to use our packs more efficiently with their tools and we release them officially this way as good will gesture.
test, update, retest, reupdate,... success, share
you can remove drivers easily, adding them is hard.
it makes sense that it would be the U... folders, i haven't worked on this pack myself yet.
Why do you want them out?
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