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You could, but there's reason they haven't been finalized.

They are more of an intermediate experimental release for the testers to try out new features.

As Jaak wrote in the other thread, the shortened file paths of some of these packs does break Finisher and KTD.

Ok, that may be an issue, I haven't considered that.
As for portability - while I am using a plethora of portable apps on my USB stick, I don't wuite see any need for such a tool on it.
Also, you'd still have to install the WIM filter drivers which certainly cannot be done in a true portable way (ie not installing/touching anything on the host system), so that could be a dead end.

Well, what about Mono?
Isn't that exactly supposed to run .NET programmes on *NIX systems?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mono_%28software%29
Oh, and what about portable.NET?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portable.NET

Yeah, had some problems myself.
Simply didn't slipstream the SP1 no matter what I tried.
Don't think it's neccessarily .NET-related.

While I personally do not object Java, there's a lot of people who dislike it (just as there is for .NET).
Doubt there's be less problems, though, as I suppose that is rather due to slipstreaming SP1 generally being unsupported by MS.

True, any framework only pays off if you are using a lot of apps that are based on it (so the app size can be smaller because a lot of stuff is in the FW).
But as I said initially, some ten years ago or so, you'd need a plethora of runtime files for all the various programmes and languages that were used.
Then you had version conflicts and whatnot.
Therefore, I do see the FW as a step forward.

Anyway, vLite ( http://vlite.net/download.html ) has been released in a new version that also supports SP1 slipstreaming.
Granted, it also uses .NET but maybe that will work better for you

See my other thread for the solution.

Please do not post virtually the same topic on two different threads.
If they have a common topic (in this case: "How to get the URLs of drivers listed at WIndowsUpdate?") they should be within the same thread.

Thank you.

Well, it sort of is, already.

Unless you go for one of these butt-ugly (did I mention they almost had a full hall of those at CeBIT? At least they got cut down from two and a half halls last year...) cheapo plastic cases that look closer to a kid's Transformers toy than a serious PC part, a nice metal case (aluminium preferred but even steel will do its job) does help cooling down the "environment" (air) temperature inside the case.
Which is precisely why putting noise dampening mats on the inside of your case is a bad idea.
Firstly, you are using them to silence your fans, and secondly, you will need even more fan power because they insulate the case so well that heat builds up...

Anyway, yes, it would be a great idea of those heat pipes were directly leading to the case where they would be provided perfect contact with the surface.
Of course, the case temp would rise a bit then (you could then attach some nice "Only touch with gloves" sticker on it ).
I think, this is how it's done with these fan-less industrial PCs that have cooling fins on the sides of the case.
Also tend to get a little hot there (maybe 40-50°C), but nothing that really burns your fingers immideatly.

Yes, I believe the Intel Design Guide specifies around 460g of max weight for the cooler.

Part of the reason why I didn't get the full-copper model but the copper/aluminium one (it's a Zalman and not nearly as spectacular as Erik's, hence no pics ).
Anyway, I didn't move my case that often afterwards so I really could have got the heavier one.
Really only matters during transportation (LAN party anyone), and then you best lay it flat on the right side (some folks apparently dismount their coolers - well I certainly don't feel like reappling thermal paste each and every time).

Anyway, the problem with the specification is that it only mentions the weight but does not specify how far it may extend from the ZIF socket.
Obviously it does matter wheter it is close to the center or extended by some 30 cm...

That thing portraited in the pic is so huge I'd probably try to fix it to the opposing case side just to be sure

Anyway, I believe I saw its bigger borther at CeBIT (need to go through my pics, maybe it did take one of it...)

Personally, I would prefer an addon, because if you just add the drivers, I fear the virtual machine might not detect the VW additions to be installed properly (as the installer never run) which again might result in some undesired behaviour (ie, drag&drop not working between host and guest).

Just something to consider.

Same here.
Am really fond of the cases (both looks - stylish and simple - as well as funtionality).

Yeah, got that on my board, too, though I haven't had to make any use of that, yet

That might be, never really heared about it, though.
You could have went with Win 2003, though, if you wanted a more modern kernel than the one in XP.
Anyhow, the question remains whether even if Vista provides better multi-core support on an system-based level, you are actually experiencing any performance gains compared to XP because of the overall more resource-hungry OS.
Some real-life benchmarks would be nice.

Doing that myself, and it works great under XP (at least what I can tell from the task manager's core utilization).
Doubt there would be any noticeable difference, really (as said above, those optimization, if present, probably only affect system-level processes, not end-user software).

BTW: SMP-optimized games are coming out more and more.
I doubt, though, that the use of XP would help much (apart from the fact that XP is faster than Vista in general) for non-SMP games.
That's what you'd need Reversed HyperThreading (making one core out of two) for, unfortunately, that is just still a theory.

True dat.

I have been trying Vst on my main rig (dunno if it was still beta or already RC) with a "mere" 1GB of RAM and it was utterly slow.
While I did not really notice (that is not to say there weren't any, I did not run any benchmarks/FRAPS for hard figures, just from what the game feels like) any slowdown, the loading times of games definately increased.
Also, getting back to the Desktop after a game session was horribly slow, thanks to paging the Kernel, I guess (OTOH, this probabaly did make the game run ok).

Heh, didn't even know testers were entitled to a licence (I take, the disc alone is not that useful )!

Well, I did order myself a disc through the (now shutdown...) Anytime Upgrade service and since you can test it for 30 days (120 if you know how), I think that's a fair price for the ~€4 it cost me.
Didn't really convince me to put it on and keep it, though (won't be going Vst if at all with less than 2GB of RAM again).

I was hoping to be able to order another DVD with SP1 included that way but alas, as I said, they discontinued the service...

Now, ain't that always the best about it! :>

(just like LEGO in the old days, assembling the stuff was great fun, playing with it afterwards just ok... )

Hah, and I thought the main reason for a gamer to get a new OS was Vista and its DX10 support!

Do the old games not work on Vst or do you want to keep the OS clean (for instance of nasty copy protection that gets installed along with the games...).

Yeah, just read about that, too.

As I said initially, vLite might not be such an easy solution to the problem as it is with nLite seeing as it cannot directly slipstream the SP1 into the source.
Still involves a lot of manual steps but I do hope and am confident, nuhi will find a way around that, too!

Although there's nothing like having the properer slipstreamed original press DVD, seeing as you and me both probably customize a lot on the discs (hence including the need to burn it again anyway), getting an ISO is more than a fair trade-off.
At least they do hand them out (if only to subscribers).
Still would have preferred a proper slipstream installer switch, heh.

Didn't take a look at that case and its fans specifically, but you may be right.
If you don't favour the idea of having water circulate in your case, and also do not mind louder fan noise while gaming (eg because you use a headset for that anyway or turn up your speakers anyway), using ATiTool (despite its name also works with nVidia cards) to throttle the fan speed can be a great idea to silence it during 2D (desktop) usage.

You may need to check out the latest beta version for compliance with your card, btw.

I think it's even 640*480 if you only got the default VGA drivers installed.

If I don't enable the option to use 800*600 as a default res in nLite, when installing to a VM with no VM additions included, it will be set to that res and ask to be switched to at least 800*600 because that is the minimal resultion needed by XP to display all GUI entries properly (otherwise, some ok buttons and the like will get cut off and you will have to move the window to see/reach them or guesstimate by tabbing through).

Just FYI, anyhow. :>