If trying on a network share without the ability to change files could be another possible cause.

That is correct.  If you utilize DP Mass Storage txt mode, and your required drivers are included, you will be able to utilize the CD you create without the need for anything else.

Jake, my test has been on Audigy (PCI\VEN_1102&DEV_0004&SUBSYS_10021102&REV_04\4&11C9F252&0&08F0) and Live 5.1 (PCI\VEN_1102&DEV_0002&SUBSYS_80611102&REV_07\3&61AAA01&0&80) sound cards.

Well, I finally got it working with the unsigned drivers.  While the Creative Driver Update window still pops up, just like the signed driver version, I do not get the Unsigned Driver Pop up window when Windows is finalizing settings.  Uploading newer version to the FTP server (will use the same name, so if you want to save the one I already posted, please rename it or i can upload it with a dif version number)

Uploading my working Sound Pack A now.... still testing with the unsigned versions now.... IF this still provides the same issues I have seen with unsigned driver, how bout I add the changes for all other devices to the test pack I uploaded....

My hush got deactivated due to inactivity, please use the hotmail i added

Uploading my working test Sound Pack A now, but I don't think it will be finished before I will have to leave for work.

Cross posting smile

Yes, I had also noticed the same devices covered by both sets of drivers with the one "saved" includes one additional hardware device.  I was working on consolidating and correcting when I came upon this test thread.  The one issue I notice is that the driver you chose to keep is an unsigned driver, which is why I went digging on Creatives site.  I have yet to locate the DriverVer=08/17/2006, 5.12.06.1187 fileset. 

Working on my most recent test of adding the support structure and relocating the applicable files in the original location.  The main issue I am trying to address is why I seem to get the Unsigned Driver window before DSPDsbler can prevent it. 

Also note: I don't recall ever having this issue when using Update and Addon packs, but am doing current testing with a pure WinXP_SP2 source for optimization.  I'm thinking maybe the additional items may have caused the timing to allow DSPdsbler to work prior to any driver implementation.

I can certainly upload the version I created that presented no issues for my Creative products if you'd like.

OK, that method got rid of the Unsigned Driver popup when finalizing windows setup, and resulted in having a signed driver.  However the window for the Creative Driver Update Utility still presented itself at about 60% of T-37.  It appears the /S command switch is no longer valid, so I am editing my inf to try the /Q command switch.

If I get this working, I will try the same efforts on your test pack to see if it works as expected.

I am not sure where you got the drivers you are using in the newer packs, the newest I could find on Creative site is the one I am utilizing.

EDIT: /Q did not work for suppressing the Creative Driver Update Utility.  I will now try to implement your drivers in my configuration and see if I can get the Unsigned Driver window suppressed.

OK, here's what I'm seeing even with the new test packs....

Windows XP Professional SP2 (made using the /integrate option of SP2 to CLEAN, COMPLETE disc structure so there is nothing on this other than MS's stuff)

Integrating using ALL driver packs, NO 3rd party, M2, RunOnceEx (default 937), KTD for ALL driver packs (default location), QSC Enabled, ATI CCP.

Soundblaster Audigy sound card. (PCI\VEN_1102&DEV_0004)

At T-34 (approx 60% of T-37 installing devices) window pops up Creative Driver Update Utility, does its thing, goes away. 
Finish setup.
Reboot to Finalizing Settings.
Finalizing Settings window with DriverPacks Finisher pops up, AND the Driver Not Signed window, click continue anyway.
DPSdsbler window pops up, sets the registery value.
Everything finishes, Driver is not signed for sound card.

AFTER that test, I chose to try some things on my own.  What I am attempting at this time is removing all the extra lines in the CR section of the inf, since all the files are already extracted those lines are not necessary.  My current test is using the following modified sections in the inf file:

[CR-1]
; REQUIRED
exc_count		= 1
; OPTIONAL
exc_1_tagFiles	= 2
exc_1_tagFile1	= "%SystemRoot%\system32\drivers\ha10kx2k.sys"
exc_1_tagFile2	= "%SystemRoot%\system32\drivers\ha20x2k.sys"
exc_1_+hwids	= 0
exc_1_-hwids	= 0
exc_1_+infFiles	= 1
exc_1_+infFile1	= "%DPSROOT%\D\S\CR\1\*.inf"
exc_1_-infFiles	= 0
exc_1_commands	= 3
exc_1_command1	= "cmd.exe /c copy /y %DPSROOT%\D\S\CR\1\common\i386\CtCtlPan.cpl %SystemRoot%\system32\"
exc_1_command2	= "cmd.exe /c copy /y %DPSROOT%\D\S\CR\1\common\i386\CtPanel.exe %SystemRoot%\system32\"
exc_1_command3	= "%DPSROOT%\D\S\CR\1\support\i386\CTZAPXX.exe /S"


[CR-2]
; REQUIRED
exc_count		= 1
; OPTIONAL
exc_1_tagFiles	= 2
exc_1_tagFile1	= "%SystemRoot%\system32\drivers\P17.sys"
exc_1_tagFile2	= "%DPSROOT%\D\S\CR\2\Ctzapxx.ini"
exc_1_+hwids	= 0
exc_1_-hwids	= 0
exc_1_+infFiles	= 1
exc_1_+infFile1	= "%DPSROOT%\D\S\CR\2\*.inf"
exc_1_-infFiles	= 0
exc_1_commands	= 1
exc_1_command1	= "%DPSROOT%\D\S\CR\2\CTZapxx.Exe /S"

Please note the change in location of CTZapxx.exe in [CR-1] this is because I extracted the drivers from Creative site (Modified Date: 11 August 2006  Version: 2.09.0016.3) and removed all extra stuff, but left the CTZapxx.exe in the support\i386 folder since both the driver and support\i386 folders had ctzapxx.ini with differing contents.

I will let you know the outcome of this test.

Well, the updates to your CR sections may fix the issues I have been resolving on my own, I will certainly download, test and keep you informed of all situations i can.

Thank you for your hard work, after digging through so much lately, I do feel I can contribute significantly to our efforts here now.

The one advantage I would see in this would be not needing to copy over ALL drivers to the system being installed, as with hardware changes, one could simply use the CD used for installing.  Perhaps simply changing the KTD path to point to the UNCOMPRESSED DriverPack folder on the CD after installation would be the simple solution.

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(16 replies, posted in DriverPack Graphics)

The best I have been able to locate thus far is the driver for WinNT.

If you would like to try that driver, I will gladly dl it and post for you.

The newest edit did in fact work on WinXP and Win2k:

[P-1]
ms_count=1
ms_1_deviceName="Promise FastTrak Controller"
ms_1_tag="fasttrak"
ms_1_sysFile="fasttrak.sys"
ms_1_hwids="PCI\VEN_105A&DEV_0D30&CC_0104,PCI\VEN_105A&DEV_1275&CC_0104,PCI\VEN_105A&DEV_4D30&CC_0104,PCI\VEN_105A&DEV_4D30&SUBSYS_4D39105A,PCI\VEN_105A&DEV_4D38&CC_0104,PCI\VEN_105A&DEV_4D38&SUBSYS_4D39105A,PCI\VEN_105A&DEV_6268&CC_0104,PCI\VEN_105A&DEV_6268,PCI\VEN_105A&DEV_6269,PCI\VEN_105A&DEV_5275,PCI\VEN_105A&DEV_5275&CC_0104,PCI\VEN_105A&DEV_7275&CC_0104"
ms_1_isBusExtender=false


[P-1-k]
ms_count=1
ms_1_deviceName="Promise FastTrak Controller"
ms_1_tag="fasttr2k"
ms_1_sysFile="fasttrak.sys"
ms_1_hwids="PCI\VEN_105A&DEV_4d33,PCI\VEN_105A&DEV_4D38&SUBSYS_4D39105A,PCI\VEN_105A&DEV_4D30&SUBSYS_4D39105A,PCI\VEN_105A&DEV_4D30&SUBSYS_4D32105A,PCI\VEN_105A&DEV_6268,PCI\VEN_105A&DEV_6269"
ms_1_isBusExtender=false
ms_1_exc_skipIfOS="wxp,wk3"

[P-1-k3]
ms_count=1
ms_1_deviceName="Promise FastTrak Controller"
ms_1_tag="fasttrk3"
ms_1_sysFile="fasttrak.sys"
ms_1_hwids="PCI\VEN_105A&DEV_4d33,PCI\VEN_105A&DEV_4D38&SUBSYS_4D39105A,PCI\VEN_105A&DEV_4D30&SUBSYS_4D39105A,PCI\VEN_105A&DEV_4D30&SUBSYS_4D32105A,PCI\VEN_105A&DEV_6268,PCI\VEN_105A&DEV_6269"
ms_1_isBusExtender=false
ms_1_exc_skipIfOS="w2k,wxp"

This allowed it to use the driver it sees as available for the drivers, it will replace the drivers in the default P\1 folder with the one in the P\1\K or P\1\K3 if the hardware id is present in Win2k or Win2k3 installations, and will use the driver in P\1 if the hardware id is only listed and is matched in the [P-1] section.

It appears that it is failing with Win2K due to the fact that the hardware ID needed for my MB FastTrak 133 Lite Raid controller is not included in the Win2k driver any longer.

PCI\VEN_105A&DEV_5275

Current method testing is removing the skipifOS from the [P-1] section and leaving the rest as above.

The above method failed to locate disk with the Win2K install, still researching.

I can now confirm that the method has worked for WindowsXP with my Promise Fasttrak Raid controller built into my motherboard.  Next test is with Win2K to confirm that the above changes will work with it as well.

After making above changes and recompressing the DriverPack MassStorage 7.0.9.1 driverpacks, I do now see the driver being listed in the txtsetup.inf file.  Since this issue does not present itself in a virtual machine test, I am currently creating the disc for actual hardware testing....

Will keep ya posted

I am going to do another test utilizing DriverPack MassStorage 7.0.9.1 by replacing ms_1_tag in [P-1] [P-1-K] and [P-1-K3] :

The test I am currently attempting is replacing all [P-1x] sections as follows:

[P-1]
ms_count=1
ms_1_deviceName="Promise FastTrak Controller"
ms_1_tag="fasttrak"
ms_1_sysFile="fasttrak.sys"
ms_1_hwids="PCI\VEN_105A&DEV_0D30&CC_0104,PCI\VEN_105A&DEV_1275&CC_0104,PCI\VEN_105A&DEV_4D30&CC_0104,PCI\VEN_105A&DEV_4D30&SUBSYS_4D39105A,PCI\VEN_105A&DEV_4D38&CC_0104,PCI\VEN_105A&DEV_4D38&SUBSYS_4D39105A,PCI\VEN_105A&DEV_6268&CC_0104,PCI\VEN_105A&DEV_6268,PCI\VEN_105A&DEV_6269,PCI\VEN_105A&DEV_5275,PCI\VEN_105A&DEV_5275&CC_0104,PCI\VEN_105A&DEV_7275&CC_0104"
ms_1_isBusExtender=false
ms_1_exc_skipIfOS="w2k,wk3"


[P-1-k]
ms_count=1
ms_1_deviceName="Promise FastTrak Controller"
ms_1_tag="fasttr2k"
ms_1_sysFile="fasttrak.sys"
ms_1_hwids="PCI\VEN_105A&DEV_4d33,PCI\VEN_105A&DEV_4D38&SUBSYS_4D39105A,PCI\VEN_105A&DEV_4D30&SUBSYS_4D39105A,PCI\VEN_105A&DEV_4D30&SUBSYS_4D32105A,PCI\VEN_105A&DEV_6268,PCI\VEN_105A&DEV_6269"
ms_1_isBusExtender=false
ms_1_exc_skipIfOS="wxp,wk3"

[P-1-k3]
ms_count=1
ms_1_deviceName="Promise FastTrak Controller"
ms_1_tag="fasttrk3"
ms_1_sysFile="fasttrak.sys"
ms_1_hwids="PCI\VEN_105A&DEV_4d33,PCI\VEN_105A&DEV_4D38&SUBSYS_4D39105A,PCI\VEN_105A&DEV_4D30&SUBSYS_4D39105A,PCI\VEN_105A&DEV_4D30&SUBSYS_4D32105A,PCI\VEN_105A&DEV_6268,PCI\VEN_105A&DEV_6269"
ms_1_isBusExtender=false
ms_1_exc_skipIfOS="w2k,wxp"

Hopefully this will resolve the issue of the driver not being implemented in the txtsetup.sif

The implementation of certain features in the [P-1] [P-1-K] and [P-1-K3] are preventing any of the fasttrak.sys drivers being utilized on my winxp installation.

For this to work with DriverPack MassStorage 7.0.9.1 I had to utilize the [P-1] section from DriverPack MassStorage 7.0.9.0 and then i removed the [P-1-K] and [P-1-K3] sections of the ini file and recompressing.

It seems that DP_Base believes ALL excludes are met, and does not implement the driver.

The implementation of certain features in the [P-1] [P-1-K] and [P-1-K3] are preventing any of the fasttrak.sys drivers being utilized on my winxp installation.

For this to work with DriverPack MassStorage 7.0.9.1 I had to utilize the [P-1] section from DriverPack MassStorage 7.09.0 and then i removed the [P-1-K] and [P-1-K3] sections of the ini file and recompressing.

It seems that DP_Base believes ALL excludes are met, and does not implement the driver.

also noticed a change in DriverPack MassStorage from 7.0.0 to 7.0.9.1 causing Promise FastTrack Raid controller on motherboard no longer finding drive.

The problem lies in the ini file withing the 7z driver file. Specifically withing the [P-1] through [P-1-k3] sections.

The implementation of certain features in the [P-1] [P-1-K] and [P-1-K3] are preventing any of the fasttrak.sys drivers being utilized on my winxp installation.

My resolution was to extract the 7.0.9.1 driver pack file to a folder, deleting the exclude line in [P-1] section, completely removing [P-1-k] and [P-1-k3] sections and recompressing the driver file.  This in effect uses the [P-1] section from DriverPack MassStorage 7.0.9.

Also if you use QSC remember to delete the folder for 7.9.0.1 so it can be recreated.
As an alternative, I believe you could simply make the edits to the ini file within the QSC folder for DriverPack MassStorage 7.0.9.1

It seems that DP_Base believes ALL excludes are met, and does not implement the driver.

I hope this resolution works for you as well.

48

(33 replies, posted in Other)

The method I have documented in other posts works flawlessly.

Removing setupold.exe at the end of implementation would eliminate the need for it to be done on a new setup with presetup.cmd.

Or you could include the deleting of setupold.exe at the beginning of presetup.cmd as documented.

As discussed in the other threads you referenced, place the beginning of the presetup.cmd file as follows:

prepxp.cmd:

if exist i386\presetup.cmd type i386\presetup.cmd |find /V "\system32\setup" > PRESETUP.ORG
if exist presetup.org copy /Y PRESETUP.FIX + PRESETUP.ORG PRESETUP.CMD 
if exist presetup.cmd move /Y PRESETUP.CMD I386 
del /F /Q PRESETUP.*

contents of PRESETUP.FIX used above:

DEL /F %systemroot%\system32\setupold.exe

Using this method places the deleting of setupold.exe at the beginning of the presetup.cmd

Another minor correction to your original post in this thread, the upg / mig folders are not needed for a repair option.

jtdoom wrote:

hi again

people tell us that their solution to this was something they added at the bottom in presetup.cmd
(they do this before they burn.)

REM +==================================+
REM |   Make CD usable for XP UPGRADE REPAIR method.  |
REM |   \386\WINNTUPG folder is needed for this.               |
REM +==================================+
DEL /F %systemroot%\system32\setupold.exe

EXIT

Tip;
use Rewritable media..
There will be updates with fixes and new drivers..

I implemented utilizing my methods by putting this at the beginning of presetup.cmd  If at the end I won't assure it will work.