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Topic: [PROB] Intel's aarich.sys conflicts with ICH5R driver.

Intel's latest matrix storage drivers no longer support the older ICH5R SATA RAID chip (82801ER). This controller is common on intel 875/865/845 chipset based motherboards. Intel dropped support for ICH5R sometime last year.

I found this out while using base 6.08.4 and masstorage 6.08. Because of how things are integrated, the only way to get my installation going was to uncheck masstorage and do a manual F6.

Intel may start pulling support for the ICH6 series as well, so masstorage will need separate folders within the "IN" folder for these older raid controller drivers. What a pain!

Here is the last driver (from 2005) that officially supports ICH5R / 82801ER:

http://downloadfinder.intel.com/scripts … p;lang=eng

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Re: [PROB] Intel's aarich.sys conflicts with ICH5R driver.

I already AM handling this. I'm using 2 drivers, also for textmode setup!

Please post your HWID so I can find out if I have assigned a HWID to the wrong driver.

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Re: [PROB] Intel's aarich.sys conflicts with ICH5R driver.

Bâshrat the Sneaky wrote:

I already AM handling this. I'm using 2 drivers, also for textmode setup!

Please post your HWID so I can find out if I have assigned a HWID to the wrong driver.

Thanks, I'll post tonight when I get to that specific machine again. It turned out that I had to make a new unattended XPCD without any driver pack integration in order to get F6 disk install to work properly. Disabling the masstorage integration for whatever reason still would not allow for the floppy to copy files at the "copying windows files" stage, even though the floppy was read during F6. sad

The motherboard was the Asus P4C800-E Deluxe.

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Re: [PROB] Intel's aarich.sys conflicts with ICH5R driver.

Fragbert wrote:
Bâshrat the Sneaky wrote:

I already AM handling this. I'm using 2 drivers, also for textmode setup!

Please post your HWID so I can find out if I have assigned a HWID to the wrong driver.

Thanks, I'll edit this post tonight when I get to that specific machine again. It turned out that I had to make a new unattended XPCD without any driver pack integration in order to get F6 disk install to work properly. Disabling the masstorage integration for whatever reason still would not allow for the floppy to copy files at the "copying windows files" stage, even though the floppy was read during F6. sad

The motherboard was the Asus P4C800-E Deluxe.

Your F6 copy files issue is caused by having the "UnattendedSwitch=Yes" in your Winnt.sif file I believe...
I haven't found a way to make F6 work with an unattended disk succesfully yet.

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Re: [PROB] Intel's aarich.sys conflicts with ICH5R driver.

twig123 wrote:
Fragbert wrote:
Bâshrat the Sneaky wrote:

I already AM handling this. I'm using 2 drivers, also for textmode setup!

Please post your HWID so I can find out if I have assigned a HWID to the wrong driver.

Thanks, I'll edit this post tonight when I get to that specific machine again. It turned out that I had to make a new unattended XPCD without any driver pack integration in order to get F6 disk install to work properly. Disabling the masstorage integration for whatever reason still would not allow for the floppy to copy files at the "copying windows files" stage, even though the floppy was read during F6. sad

The motherboard was the Asus P4C800-E Deluxe.

Your F6 copy files issue is caused by having the "UnattendedSwitch=Yes" in your Winnt.sif file I believe...
I haven't found a way to make F6 work with an unattended disk succesfully yet.

Actually F6 worked fine as long as I did not use any driverpacks. My WINNT.SIF was still set as an unattended install. Strange...

Bâshrat the Sneaky - sorry no time last night to get the HWIDs, will do tonight.

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Re: [PROB] Intel's aarich.sys conflicts with ICH5R driver.

oops, typo on my part... it is the OemPreinstall = "Yes" that disables the F6 option.

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Re: [PROB] Intel's aarich.sys conflicts with ICH5R driver.

Here you go Bâshrat, as promised here is my HWID.txt. You'll note that the ICH5R SATA RAID controller is PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_24DF&SUBSYS_80A61043&REV_02\3&267A616A&0&FA

=========== 
PCI devices 
=========== 
 
 
PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4E48&SUBSYS_00021002&REV_00\4&1A99067F&0&0008: RADEON 9800 PRO
PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4E68&SUBSYS_00031002&REV_00\4&1A99067F&0&0108: RADEON 9800 PRO - Secondary
PCI\VEN_1102&DEV_0004&SUBSYS_10021102&REV_04\4&2E98101C&0&58F0: Creative SB Audigy 2 (WDM)
PCI\VEN_1102&DEV_4001&SUBSYS_00101102&REV_04\4&2E98101C&0&5AF0: OHCI Compliant IEEE 1394 Host Controller
PCI\VEN_1102&DEV_7003&SUBSYS_00601102&REV_04\4&2E98101C&0&59F0: Creative Game Port
PCI\VEN_1106&DEV_3044&SUBSYS_808A1043&REV_80\4&2E98101C&0&18F0: VIA OHCI Compliant IEEE 1394 Host Controller
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_1019&SUBSYS_80F71043&REV_00\4&3B3CB9B1&0&0818: Intel(R) PRO/1000 CT Network Connection
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_244E&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_C2\3&267A616A&0&F0: Intel(R) 82801 PCI Bridge - 244E
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_24D0&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_02\3&267A616A&0&F8: Intel(R) 82801EB LPC Interface Controller - 24D0
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_24D2&SUBSYS_80A61043&REV_02\3&267A616A&0&E8: Intel(R) 82801EB USB Universal Host Controller - 24D2
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_24D3&SUBSYS_80A61043&REV_02\3&267A616A&0&FB: Intel(R) 82801EB SMBus Controller - 24D3
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_24D4&SUBSYS_80A61043&REV_02\3&267A616A&0&E9: Intel(R) 82801EB USB Universal Host Controller - 24D4
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_24D7&SUBSYS_80A61043&REV_02\3&267A616A&0&EA: Intel(R) 82801EB USB Universal Host Controller - 24D7
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_24DB&SUBSYS_80A61043&REV_02\3&267A616A&0&F9: Intel(R) 82801EB Ultra ATA Storage Controllers
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_24DD&SUBSYS_80A61043&REV_02\3&267A616A&0&EF: Intel(R) 82801EB USB2 Enhanced Host Controller - 24DD
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_24DE&SUBSYS_80A61043&REV_02\3&267A616A&0&EB: Intel(R) 82801EB USB Universal Host Controller - 24DE
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_24DF&SUBSYS_80A61043&REV_02\3&267A616A&0&FA: Intel(R) 82801ER SATA RAID Controller
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2578&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_02\3&267A616A&0&00: Intel(R) 82875P/E7210 Memory Controller Hub - 2578
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2579&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_02\3&267A616A&0&08: Intel(R) 82875P Processor to AGP Controller - 2579
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_257B&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_02\3&267A616A&0&18: Intel(R) 82875P/E7210 Processor to PCI to CSA bridge - 257B
20 matching device(s) found.
 
 
=========== 
USB devices 
=========== 
 
USB\ROOT_HUB\4&1C4B7D9B&0                                   : USB Root Hub
USB\ROOT_HUB\4&1FCB28C&0                                    : USB Root Hub
USB\ROOT_HUB\4&24D2BE59&0                                   : USB Root Hub
USB\ROOT_HUB\4&CB41D3B&0                                    : USB Root Hub
USB\ROOT_HUB20\4&F180E13&0                                  : USB Root Hub
USB\VID_046D&PID_C221\6&BACBDC6&0&1                         : USB Composite Device
USB\VID_046D&PID_C221&MI_00\7&1D789EAB&0&0000               : USB Human Interface Device
USB\VID_046D&PID_C221&MI_01\7&1D789EAB&0&0001               : USB Human Interface Device
USB\VID_046D&PID_C222\6&BACBDC6&0&4                         : USB Human Interface Device
USB\VID_046D&PID_C223\5&160F4E1&0&2                         : Generic USB Hub
USB\VID_050F&PID_0003\5&3AD090D&0&2                         : Generic USB Hub
USB\VID_051D&PID_0002\NB0206151021__                        : American Power Conversion USB UPS
12 matching device(s) found.

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Re: [PROB] Intel's aarich.sys conflicts with ICH5R driver.

Where would I look in the DP or base to see if the reference ID is correct?

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Re: [PROB] Intel's aarich.sys conflicts with ICH5R driver.

By looking in the .inf file. You will see that your device is supported by the driver in the D\M\IN\1\O directory. (Just verified that.)

I assume you've installed the driver manually now? Since it seems to be installed just fine according to your hwids.txt.

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Re: [PROB] Intel's aarich.sys conflicts with ICH5R driver.

Bâshrat the Sneaky wrote:

By looking in the .inf file. You will see that your device is supported by the driver in the D\M\IN\1\O directory. (Just verified that.)

I assume you've installed the driver manually now? Since it seems to be installed just fine according to your hwids.txt.

Yeah I used the F6 option instead using the drivers I referenced earlier and it installed fine. To test, I used the drivers in "O" on my floppy and F6 *did not* work.

Doing a little more research, it seems that even though your supplied driver states it will support the controller in the .inf - according to intel the last driver release to support ICH5R are in an older release of these drivers and no longer supported afterwards.

Going here - http://downloadfinder.intel.com/scripts … bmit=Go%21 - you will see the latest drivers that state full support of ICH5R are v5.5.0.1035 from 1/5/2006. Your "O" drivers are dated from 2/26/2006. All driver releases (floppy and manager) after v5.5.0.1035 do not list any 8XX series intel chipsets and therefore do not support ICH5R (which is a controller onely used on 875P, 865, and 845 boards). So according to Intel on their own website, despite what their later infs may contain, the last driver to support ICH5R is here: http://downloadfinder.intel.com/scripts … p;lang=eng

If you are keeping two separate driver folders of intel sata raid controllers to keep legacy support, then v5.5.0.1035 is the one you want to keep instead of the later one.

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Re: [PROB] Intel's aarich.sys conflicts with ICH5R driver.

I'm sorry to disappoint you, but those ARE the original files. The date has changed solely because they have been copied once. But please feel free to compare the MD5 checksums. They'll be identical. I am using the right version. I've compared the drivers in detail to avoid problems/mistakes.

By the way, your hwid is this one: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_24DF. That hwid is not supported by the driver in D\M\I... but it is by the one in D\M\I\O, so it CAN'T have installed the newer driver!

What was the exact error/BSOD you had when booting?

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Re: [PROB] Intel's aarich.sys conflicts with ICH5R driver.

Bâshrat the Sneaky wrote:

I'm sorry to disappoint you, but those ARE the original files. The date has changed solely because they have been copied once. But please feel free to compare the MD5 checksums. They'll be identical. I am using the right version. I've compared the drivers in detail to avoid problems/mistakes.

By the way, your hwid is this one: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_24DF. That hwid is not supported by the driver in D\M\I... but it is by the one in D\M\I\O, so it CAN'T have installed the newer driver!

What was the exact error/BSOD you had when booting?

No BSOD, I get the "no hard disk drives can be found" error after the "starting windows" stage of setup (before partitioning and copying). Checking again, you are right, they are the same drivers! AND I made a mistake in my last F6 disk - I copied the later drivers instead. The ones in "O" work when using manual F6 - however, after yet another install using the normal driverpackms for whatever reason the "O" drivers are not recognized/copied. Pathing problem maybe?

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Re: [PROB] Intel's aarich.sys conflicts with ICH5R driver.

Update: I tried a trick where I copied drivers from folder "O" to the "1" directory and edited the txtsetup.sif so that ICH5R is "iastor" instead of "iastrold". I also removed all references to iastrold in txtsetup and dosnet.inf, and the iastrol_.sys in i386. No dice, but then again I'm admittably not quite sure of what I'm doing here.

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Re: [PROB] Intel's aarich.sys conflicts with ICH5R driver.

You can trust me when I say that that that is a trusted method, it's been working for well over a year now. The CABbed file is renamed, but the internal filename remains unaltered, so Windows will still use iastor.sys! wink

It's very odd that it isn't working...

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Re: [PROB] Intel's aarich.sys conflicts with ICH5R driver.

Bâshrat the Sneaky wrote:

You can trust me when I say that that that is a trusted method, it's been working for well over a year now. The CABbed file is renamed, but the internal filename remains unaltered, so Windows will still use iastor.sys! wink

It's very odd that it isn't working...

Bâshrat,

What other troubleshooting steps are there to take? Switching to method 1 shouldn't affect the outcome since we are dealing with txtsetup.sif stuff here, right? I verified that the XPCD and driverpacks work fine on all machines I have used it on this week (about 5 pc's of varying configs), and it just *will not* install the ICH5R driver on a 875P based motherboard. sad

I can only go by a hunch, and a my hunch tells me it's a simple syntax error somewhere, pathing or otherwise.

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Re: [PROB] Intel's aarich.sys conflicts with ICH5R driver.

Second comfirmation of the ICH5R "no hard disk drives can be found" error. This time on Intel's retail 875P desktop board. So that eliminates the possibility that Asus was implementing something non-standard on their 875 board.

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Re: [PROB] Intel's aarich.sys conflicts with ICH5R driver.

Try this: open your txtsetup.sif file, do a search for "SCSI.Load" and now find the line that references "iastor" (i.e. the newer driver, not the old one) and put a semi-colon in front of it. That will prevent this driver from loading. Now retry.

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Re: [PROB] Intel's aarich.sys conflicts with ICH5R driver.

Bâshrat the Sneaky wrote:

Try this: open your txtsetup.sif file, do a search for "SCSI.Load" and now find the line that references "iastor" (i.e. the newer driver, not the old one) and put a semi-colon in front of it. That will prevent this driver from loading. Now retry.

Will do. I'll report back on Sunday.

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Re: [PROB] Intel's aarich.sys conflicts with ICH5R driver.

If that doesn't work, you may also want to comment out the JMicron drivers. They've created a conflict in the past, so...

EDIT: also look WHICH driver is loaded. If you boot from a regular IDE controller, it will say 'atapi' for example. You should see 'iastrold', nothing else.

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Re: [PROB] Intel's aarich.sys conflicts with ICH5R driver.

Bâshrat the Sneaky wrote:

If that doesn't work, you may also want to comment out the JMicron drivers. They've created a conflict in the past, so...

EDIT: also look WHICH driver is loaded. If you boot from a regular IDE controller, it will say 'atapi' for example. You should see 'iastrold', nothing else.

Ok where do I look to see which driver I am booting off of during setup? Or is this something to look for after the fact (which I guess would not be needed since it managed to install smile )

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Re: [PROB] Intel's aarich.sys conflicts with ICH5R driver.

You can see it when you can select your partition. You'll see what I mean wink You cannot overlook it (now you know what you're looking for at least).

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Re: [PROB] Intel's aarich.sys conflicts with ICH5R driver.

Still no dice sad

I marked out both the jmicron and iastor in SCSI.Load of my txtsetup.sif, and I also marked out all lines in the [Data] and [Unattended] sections of my winnt.sif (except for OemPreinstall=Yes) in order to manually select and partition the drive.

Windows simply does not see the RAID 0 array on the ICH5R controller when using MassStorage. Same error, "no hard disk drives".

Any other tricks to try?

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Re: [PROB] Intel's aarich.sys conflicts with ICH5R driver.

UPDATE - WINDOWS FINALLY FOUND THE DRIVE! smile

I decided to remark out *every* single driver in SCSI.Load except for atapi.sys and iastrold. That worked! I could finally partition and install.

So the next step is to find out which driver in SCSI.Load is causing the conflict. Bashrat, you have any other suspects on your list?

I feel finally relieved that a) I'm not crazy and b) your iastrold driver is indeed the right driver to use. Must have went through a dozen DVD burns.

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Re: [PROB] Intel's aarich.sys conflicts with ICH5R driver.

The JMicron drivers. I think you only commented ONE of the TWO JMicron drivers during your tests?

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Re: [PROB] Intel's aarich.sys conflicts with ICH5R driver.

Bâshrat the Sneaky wrote:

The JMicron drivers. I think you only commented ONE of the TWO JMicron drivers during your tests?

I commented out both, the raid and the ahci and still got the error. Are there other jmicron drivers or oem drivers that are similar to jmicron?