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I also found that the ATICCC install bug was caused by an undocumented dependency on .NET 2.0 AND VC++ redistributable!
Good job! It's always nice to see those un-documentations getting documented. 
I'm currently in Germany, but I'll start working on this idea when I get back.
Oh, nice. I wonder if they still got any "concentration camps" remnants over there.
Concerning the driverpacks, I've done the test with the 90902 & 90903 (posted on page 2). I'm not too sure how "good" those news are for us. But let me publish facts first and then you masters can analyze those and then tell us what it all means:
- first, good news: graphic driverpacks worked good on me! (NVIDIA GeForce 7300 LE);
- in the Device Manager, there are no yellow marks! (second good news);
- my onboard "HD audio" seem to work correctly, too! (only good news!?);
- now, for the audio drivers test (remember, .ini removed from root of .7z). I'll let you decide if those are good news or not!
- - I'm not too sure, but I think that in Control Panel, I had an item titled "Audio Console" that disappeared;
- - in "C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Start Menu\Programs\Creative," I have two items, so one more than I used to have;
- - I'm not too sure either, but I think that "Creative Audio Control Panel" was named "Creative Audio Console" before (does the same thing anyway);
- - I haven't seen anything about that "full-fledged" console, but only that good old "classic," and "sufficient-for-me," audio console;
- - the new item I've talked about earlier in the start menu folder is titled "Creative Software AutoUpdate," linking to "\Creative\Shared Files\Software Update\AutoUpdate.exe." That AutoUpdate software automatically fired up when Windows was installed and I logged in for the first time;
- - besides that somewhat annoying program, as far as I can tell everything is working as good as before.
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PCI Devices
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PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_01D1&SUBSYS_034B1462&REV_A1\4&399D3C6A&0&0008: NVIDIA GeForce 7300 LE
PCI\VEN_1102&DEV_0005&SUBSYS_00311102&REV_00\4&31B6CD7&0&08F0: Creative SB X-Fi
PCI\VEN_1106&DEV_3403&SUBSYS_83841043&REV_00\4&8AC94B5&0&00E3: VIA OHCI Compliant IEEE 1394 Host Controller
PCI\VEN_1814&DEV_0301&SUBSYS_25611814&REV_00\4&31B6CD7&0&00F0: Ralink Turbo Wireless LAN Card
PCI\VEN_1969&DEV_1026&SUBSYS_82261043&REV_B0\4&20515DB1&0&00E5: Atheros AR8121/AR8113/AR8114 PCI-E Ethernet Controller
PCI\VEN_197B&DEV_2361&SUBSYS_824F1043&REV_02\4&34EBACD6&0&00E4: JMB36X Standard Dual Channel PCIE IDE Controller
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_244E&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_90\3&11583659&0&F0: Intel(R) 82801 PCI Bridge - 244E
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2E20&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_03\3&11583659&0&00: Intel(R) 4 Series Chipset Processor to I/O Controller - 2E20
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2E21&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_03\3&11583659&0&08: Intel(R) 4 Series Chipset PCI Express Root Port - 2E21
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A16&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_00\3&11583659&0&F8: Intel(R) ICH10R LPC Interface Controller - 3A16
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A20&SUBSYS_82D41043&REV_00\3&11583659&0&FA: Intel(R) ICH10 Family 4 port Serial ATA Storage Controller 1 - 3A20
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A26&SUBSYS_82D41043&REV_00\3&11583659&0&FD: Intel(R) ICH10 Family 2 port Serial ATA Storage Controller 2 - 3A26
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A30&SUBSYS_82D41043&REV_00\3&11583659&0&FB: Intel(R) ICH10 Family SMBus Controller - 3A30
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A34&SUBSYS_82D41043&REV_00\3&11583659&0&E8: Intel(R) ICH10 Family USB Universal Host Controller - 3A34
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A35&SUBSYS_82D41043&REV_00\3&11583659&0&E9: Intel(R) ICH10 Family USB Universal Host Controller - 3A35
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A36&SUBSYS_82D41043&REV_00\3&11583659&0&EA: Intel(R) ICH10 Family USB Universal Host Controller - 3A36
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A37&SUBSYS_82D41043&REV_00\3&11583659&0&D0: Intel(R) ICH10 Family USB Universal Host Controller - 3A37
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A38&SUBSYS_82D41043&REV_00\3&11583659&0&D1: Intel(R) ICH10 Family USB Universal Host Controller - 3A38
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A39&SUBSYS_82D41043&REV_00\3&11583659&0&D2: Intel(R) ICH10 Family USB Universal Host Controller - 3A39
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A3A&SUBSYS_82D41043&REV_00\3&11583659&0&EF: Intel(R) ICH10 Family USB Enhanced Host Controller - 3A3A
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A3C&SUBSYS_82D41043&REV_00\3&11583659&0&D7: Intel(R) ICH10 Family USB Enhanced Host Controller - 3A3C
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A3E&SUBSYS_83AE1043&REV_00\3&11583659&0&D8: Microsoft UAA Bus Driver for High Definition Audio
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A40&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_00\3&11583659&0&E0: Intel(R) ICH10 Family PCI Express Root Port 1 - 3A40
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A46&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_00\3&11583659&0&E3: Intel(R) ICH10 Family PCI Express Root Port 4 - 3A46
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A48&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_00\3&11583659&0&E4: Intel(R) ICH10 Family PCI Express Root Port 5 - 3A48
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A4A&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_00\3&11583659&0&E5: Intel(R) ICH10 Family PCI Express Root Port 6 - 3A4A
26 matching device(s) found.
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USB Devices
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USB\ROOT_HUB\4&14D59EDA&0 : USB Root Hub
USB\ROOT_HUB\4&1BD273F9&0 : USB Root Hub
USB\ROOT_HUB\4&1D34232F&0 : USB Root Hub
USB\ROOT_HUB\4&3141BC6C&0 : USB Root Hub
USB\ROOT_HUB\4&33D5EF4B&0 : USB Root Hub
USB\ROOT_HUB\4&67E9D0C&0 : USB Root Hub
USB\ROOT_HUB20\4&290CAFBE&0 : USB Root Hub
USB\ROOT_HUB20\4&3097EDFD&0 : USB Root Hub
USB\VID_045E&PID_00E1\5&35EDA8E7&0&1 : USB Human Interface Device
9 matching device(s) found.
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Input Devices
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HID\VID_045E&PID_00E1&COL01\6&39B61218&0&0000 : HID-compliant consumer control device
HID\VID_045E&PID_00E1&COL02\6&39B61218&0&0001 : HID-compliant mouse
2 matching device(s) found.
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ACPI Devices
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ACPI\ATK0110\1010110 : ATK0110 ACPI UTILITY
ACPI\FIXEDBUTTON\2&DABA3FF&0 : ACPI Fixed Feature Button
ACPI\GENUINEINTEL_-_X86_FAMILY_6_MODEL_23\_0 : Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E8400 @ 3.00GHz
ACPI\GENUINEINTEL_-_X86_FAMILY_6_MODEL_23\_1 : Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E8400 @ 3.00GHz
ACPI\INT0800\4&2BC541BA&0 : Intel(R) 82802 Firmware Hub Device
ACPI\PNP0000\4&2BC541BA&0 : Programmable interrupt controller
ACPI\PNP0100\4&2BC541BA&0 : System timer
ACPI\PNP0103\4&2BC541BA&0 : High Precision Event Timer
ACPI\PNP0200\4&2BC541BA&0 : Direct memory access controller
ACPI\PNP0303\4&2BC541BA&0 : Standard 101/102-Key or Microsoft Natural PS/2 Keyboard
ACPI\PNP0501\1 : Communications Port (COM1)
ACPI\PNP0800\4&2BC541BA&0 : System speaker
ACPI\PNP0A08\0 : PCI bus
ACPI\PNP0B00\4&2BC541BA&0 : System CMOS/real time clock
ACPI\PNP0C01\1 : System board
ACPI\PNP0C01\A : System board
ACPI\PNP0C02\0 : Motherboard resources
ACPI\PNP0C02\10 : Motherboard resources
ACPI\PNP0C02\11 : Motherboard resources
ACPI\PNP0C02\2E : Motherboard resources
ACPI\PNP0C02\3 : Motherboard resources
ACPI\PNP0C04\4&2BC541BA&0 : Numeric data processor
ACPI\PNP0C0C\AA : ACPI Power Button
ACPI_HAL\PNP0C08\0 : Microsoft ACPI-Compliant System
ROOT\ACPI_HAL\0000 : ACPI Multiprocessor PC
25 matching device(s) found.
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HDA Audio
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HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_1106&DEV_0397&SUBSYS_104383AE&REV_1000\4&320758EB&0&0001: VIA High Definition Audio
1 matching device(s) found.
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RAID Devices
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PCI\VEN_197B&DEV_2361&SUBSYS_824F1043&REV_02\4&34EBACD6&0&00E4
Name: JMB36X Standard Dual Channel PCIE IDE Controller
Hardware ID's:
PCI\VEN_197B&DEV_2361&SUBSYS_824F1043&REV_02
PCI\VEN_197B&DEV_2361&SUBSYS_824F1043
PCI\VEN_197B&DEV_2361&CC_010185
PCI\VEN_197B&DEV_2361&CC_0101
Compatible ID's:
PCI\VEN_197B&DEV_2361&REV_02
PCI\VEN_197B&DEV_2361
PCI\VEN_197B&CC_010185
PCI\VEN_197B&CC_0101
PCI\VEN_197B
PCI\CC_010185
PCI\CC_0101
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A20&SUBSYS_82D41043&REV_00\3&11583659&0&FA
Name: Intel(R) ICH10 Family 4 port Serial ATA Storage Controller 1 - 3A20
Hardware ID's:
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A20&SUBSYS_82D41043&REV_00
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A20&SUBSYS_82D41043
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A20&CC_01018F
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A20&CC_0101
Compatible ID's:
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A20&REV_00
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A20
PCI\VEN_8086&CC_01018F
PCI\VEN_8086&CC_0101
PCI\VEN_8086
PCI\CC_01018F
PCI\CC_0101
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A26&SUBSYS_82D41043&REV_00\3&11583659&0&FD
Name: Intel(R) ICH10 Family 2 port Serial ATA Storage Controller 2 - 3A26
Hardware ID's:
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A26&SUBSYS_82D41043&REV_00
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A26&SUBSYS_82D41043
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A26&CC_010185
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A26&CC_0101
Compatible ID's:
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A26&REV_00
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A26
PCI\VEN_8086&CC_010185
PCI\VEN_8086&CC_0101
PCI\VEN_8086
PCI\CC_010185
PCI\CC_0101
3 matching device(s) found.So, um, what does it all mean, doc?
Alright! Just the kind of reply I was waiting for.
A quick test would be to just delete the .ini from the root of the sound DriverPacks and then repackage/rebuild your disc and test.
I don't quite understand the function of those .ini files, but whatever, I'll follow your "one-line" (but seemingly thorough!) walkthrough and report back in a few days. (EDIT: that's because I have to download from school.)
I kinda like this idea. Having a Third Party DriverPack to cover additional control panels for all the DriverPacks. That would save considerable space and make it easier for admins who want a stripped OS (like we had at work)!
Exactly! Just because (as a part-time admin) space matters.
Hmmm. Smelly cooking, boys! Can't wait for that "taste of the results!" 
Wait till you have teenage kids... then talk to me about time and energy
Yeah.
Well. Might be a good idea, as you said. Let's see where it leads!
Yours,
twipley
Hmmm. Unfortunately, being a student in a non-computing field would require me to study the internal processes of driverpacks installation before getting things done. My energy being committed in major part to my field of study, I cannot afford such deviations in energy spending, and that, in spite of my interests in the project.
We would basically need somebody else to produce the split. If that ever happens, then I will of course be able to help testing.
So you people might check this out if you have the chance before publishing?
You mean it would not be possible to integrate those "extras" into third-party driverpacks?
Hello OverFlow.
Oh, you mean the "basic" audio console (http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/images … onsole.png)
will get upgraded to the full-fledged one
http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/6541 … umenw1.gif
http://aphnetworks.com/review/auzentech … de/ss0.png
? I've personally went a long time without feeling the need for those. Not too convinced the average user really needs those? I would rather include the "extra," often (in my case, always!) unneeded stuff in third-party driverpacks. What do you think?
Creative installers? Do you care to elaborate? i.e. what has changed, concretely, and abstractly? :)
Alright. Thanks for the info. I'll wait for Major to finish what he's doing, then I'll test those out.
EDIT: is it just me or the files are bigger than they were last time? (doesn't seem to fit on my CD.)
I might need someone answering my previously asked questions (#29), though.
But did you need someone testing the HD audio for the P5Q or have I just hallucinated that? I cannot find this any mention of this anymore...
So you wouldn't (expressly) need me for testing this time? (Even if I wouldn't really mind to.)
What about me reinstalling Windows with RC sound drivers, testing the motherboard chipset's audio drivers? Thing is, I also have a standalone Creative sound card installed. Usually, before installing Windows, I disable the audio support from the motherboard (in the BIOS) so that in the first place the corresponding drivers won't get installed, and in the second place so that there won't be any conflict with two audio devices installed at the same time.
What do you think, if I let the audio support from the motherboard on and reinstall Windows, wouldn't there be audio conflicts? Or potential slowdowns of my system at startup, since both drivers will get loaded? Or could those slowdowns be remedied by disabling the unwanted device (i.e. the motherboard audio support) from the device manager afterwards?
Thank you for helping me helping.
Well, I have a P5Q board, but never had the chance to test Bâshrat the Sneaky drivers on it. I have been following this thread for a while, but unfortunately those days (months!) I haven't got the time to test such things. :(
I'd test this for you next summer guys, but by then you'll probably have it out as "stable."
So good luck, and continue the good work.
twipley
Well, all went seemingly well without having to use any tag files. So after all it would seem the only needed things are the I386 and OEM folders.
For those who wonder, here is what it gave me:
2611ef098086608329e65e5bd10742f7
6be38d901d23c79a5561d0bd38289c4b
SOUNDB and CPU checksums not available from the main download page: temporary issue?
What about IEEE-1394 (FireWire)?
This is off-topic, but wouldn't it be simpler for newbies to read (at http://driverpacks.net/driverpacks/latest) "Graphics Languages (3rd party driverpack)" instead of just "Graphics Languages?"
In BASE it is easy to see which are the "standard" driverpacks because of the way the application is built, and thus for the newbie to let out the third party ones, because often the latter are of obsolete use in newer systems.
What do you think?
cheers,
twipley
they are just as safe and just as well tested big_smile -
They are just as well done as the main packs.
-- Yes, I have known them for a long time, but have been told to stay away from them.
But, as you are saying to me today, the status quo yet has changed... and again, for the better.
-- Anyway, I do not seem to need them for most computers that I am building. When you say you might add them to the home page, you mean on a different page than the other "standard" driverpacks, right?
comrade
twipley
I am glad to learn that all is normal, after all.
P.S.: I've meant, "officially" supported. I am not really interested in third party driverpacks. Thanks for the links, though!
love,
twipley
Yes, there was a modem in my system, which was removed yesterday. As you have guessed, the yellow mark has since disappeared. Do you support modem drivers? Or are these too deprecated to be supported?
Do you still need the DPs_BASE.log file? If yes, where can I find (or how can I produce) it?
thanks,
twipley
And if you modify driverpacks thereafter, I assume you too need to extract the whole "Windows" folder? This is just as curiosity, but I will for sure test it sooner or later.
twipley
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