There is a tutorial specific section, look here: http://www.boot-land.net/forums/?showforum=31
1 2008-07-04 07:59:09
Re: [project] UXP - multiboot Install CD with DriverPacks & LiveXP (17 replies, posted in Installation Platforms)
2 2008-07-04 03:19:54
Re: [project] UXP - multiboot Install CD with DriverPacks & LiveXP (17 replies, posted in Installation Platforms)
Hi Echo_Platoon,
Very good to hear that an alternative to the restrictive FAT16 and 2Gb limitation is possible.
Maybe a tutorial on boot land would be a good idea to teach others (including myself) your used method.
Would be nice to maybe attempt to also automate all the steps on the uxp project for example.
Be well.
3 2008-06-10 23:50:07
Re: [project] UXP - multiboot Install CD with DriverPacks & LiveXP (17 replies, posted in Installation Platforms)
Hi Siginet!
If you liked wb just wait for next stable release. On our beta testings the script processing speed has been reduced to half - which means that a huge project like uxp would take a little more than 10~20 minutes to complete a full boot disk.
Basically what i planned on doing was allowing Addon creators the possability to refference a txt file hosted somewhere that the integrator would download which would hold any info on updated versions of the addon and so on. Then the integrator would simply download the update.
Yes, we're doing this with wb scripts.
Each wb project has a server to download files from. On the root of the folder there is a text file that will list all files that are supposed to be present on the server along with their respective versions. If it's a binary file then we use MD5 for a quick checksum compare with the file on disk (if any).
@Nuno Brito do you think there could be some way on implementing the RVM Integrator or Windows XP PowerPacker into your project?
Sure there is, Carfan from boot-land has become the UXP project manager and already began working on the next version since two weeks ago. Now it's the perfect time to add more tools such as yours.
If you get in contact with him, I'm sure you'll both get along quite well.
http://www.boot-land.net/forums/?showuser=5809
On my side, I'll be working on the winbuilder beta and stay around to explain whatever doubts you have regarding anything wb related.
UXP is one of my favorite projects so it would be a honor to see included some of your tools on this platform.
4 2008-04-27 03:00:29
Re: Vista driverpacks and slipstreamer (74 replies, posted in Vista-Tool)
There is already a lot of good projects that can be used to learn how to tweak a Windows Vista/2008 DVD.
Allanf has released a new project that allows to completely customize a Windows PE 2.x:
http://www.boot-land.net/forums/index.p … topic=4431
And Markus8 released an open source Windows PE driver integrator: http://www.boot-land.net/forums/?showtopic=4357
Hope these works can help driverpacks.
5 2008-03-30 13:00:48
Re: Vista driverpacks and slipstreamer (74 replies, posted in Vista-Tool)
Good luck with the codings!
6 2008-03-30 10:13:24
Re: Vista driverpacks and slipstreamer (74 replies, posted in Vista-Tool)
We due respect I think that we still don't need .NET to handle anything related to Vista and we've been proving this point with the VistaPE project for nearly two years now.
vLite is using the wimfltr files that are shipped with the WAIK and this is likely the only critical matter that any Vista tool will have to handle. Driverpacks can achieve much better results with any other coding language not based on .NET.
I know vLite good enough and we (at boot land) are also hosting vlite and nlite for some time as well (look on the links at each download page) and knowing well the weakness on these tools, I think that we can code much smaller and efficient binaries to run without restrictions and working flawlessly out of the box.
Also worth mentioning that the use of WimFltr both by Nuhi and AllbertS is highly questionable as it only comes from the WAIK and the respective EULA doesn't allow redistribution even thought we all close our eye to this details and ignore the obvious - but how long will MS close their eyes? (maybe a similar future to autopatcher awaits?)
I am actively looking for a freeware/open source solution to solve this matter and already have a few good ideas on how this can be achieved with free tools.
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Mono is only allowed for Novel customers and developers because of their joint patent agreement with MS.
I don't use Java, delphi 7 is my weapon of choice but there are many other options out there.
7 2008-03-27 11:55:09
Re: Vista driverpacks and slipstreamer (74 replies, posted in Vista-Tool)
It's a true nightmare to support .NET inside Windows PE 1.x/2.x and when thinking about a tool to customize Vista it would be wise to think about portability.
Also the same applies for everyone else looking forward to run these tools on other OS's like reactOS or *nix's wine in the future.
Look at the discussion for the mentioned tool from AlbertS and read the amount of posts regarding people trying to run it let alone do some real work.
So many other coding languages available and I'd really prefer to see java being used as it is much easier to carry around and install.
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Why should a person install a 200Mb framework to run a 200Kb program that could be coded using any open-souce or freeware available coding language like autoIt and such?
I say move away from MS claws to gain overall work efficiency.
8 2008-03-25 11:21:22
Re: Vista driverpacks and slipstreamer (74 replies, posted in Vista-Tool)
I've checked his tool but it was coded in .NET 3.5
Using my Vista x64 wasn't possible to run unless I downloaded the whole .NET framework.
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Also asked if he would be available for an open source solution but no reply back from Albert (the author)
Please consider coding a tool non-depending on .NET
I really don't understand why people keep pushing .NET when it's so heavy, slow and creates all sort of obstacles to work right.
9 2008-03-24 07:55:05
Re: Vista driverpacks and slipstreamer (74 replies, posted in Vista-Tool)
These are excellent news!!
Welcome to the testing team!
10 2008-03-23 04:05:35
Re: OPEN: Windows Vista support [APPROVED] (88 replies, posted in Feature Requests)
Take a look on the "Vista Update Integrator"
Features
- Driver Integration
- Language Integration
- Update and Service Pack Integration
- Image Rebuilding
- Iso Image Creation
http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?showtopic=114365
Maybe the author is interested in releasing it as open source?
11 2008-03-15 02:44:19
Re: Vista driverpacks and slipstreamer (74 replies, posted in Vista-Tool)
Hi Jaak!
I completely subscribe your opinion, my laptop uses a Vista x64 and I guess that these installs are far more popular than XP x64 ever was.
12 2008-03-15 00:55:08
Re: Vista driverpacks and slipstreamer (74 replies, posted in Vista-Tool)
Vista compatible driverpacks are being discussed at this moment on these links:
http://www.boot-land.net/forums/index.p … mp;p=31341
http://www.boot-land.net/forums/VistaPE … t3992.html
The NT5 driverpacks have been used and slipstreamed into WinPE 2.x but this also brings some incompatibilities so NightMan began collecting NT6 specific drivers for the hardware not supported by driverpacks.
I'll ask him what is the status of his collection and hopefully it can be used as a good research to this project.
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btw: Probably you already know this but you can make Vista run much faster in your current XP machine if you disable some of the memory hungry services and then it should work much better. Was enough to make my 1Gb laptop fly when these redundant services were disabled.
13 2008-03-14 22:22:16
Re: Vista driverpacks and slipstreamer (74 replies, posted in Vista-Tool)
I'd be happy to become just another beta tester but if you need additional hands to work on this goal then it would be honor to be your right hand!
14 2008-03-14 21:47:43
Re: Vista driverpacks and slipstreamer (74 replies, posted in Vista-Tool)
Count with me as beta tester for Vista experiences and I know a few more good people who are available to do heavy testings and report back their experiences.
The Vista Install DVD already comes with a very significant repository of drivers and they are separate in two components.
- The drivers that are included inside Windows PE 2.x
- The drivers inside the windows folder meant to be used by the installed windows.
WinPE 2.x will surely need support for LAN/WIFI and Mass Storage drivers as newer hardware will likely require drivers not included by default on the DVD files.
15 2008-03-14 20:48:02
Re: Vista driverpacks and slipstreamer (74 replies, posted in Vista-Tool)
These are good news!
So what should the first step be to start working on this?
16 2008-03-14 20:38:52
Re: [project] UXP - multiboot Install CD with DriverPacks & LiveXP (17 replies, posted in Installation Platforms)
Yes I did, thank you!!!
17 2008-03-14 12:15:31
Re: [project] UXP - multiboot Install CD with DriverPacks & LiveXP (17 replies, posted in Installation Platforms)
Windows Post-Install Wizard is also in the process of being automated.
A tool to batch convert nLite addons into WPI packages was created to ease automated creation of a config.js file needed by WPI.
18 2008-03-13 21:44:45
Re: Vista driverpacks and slipstreamer (74 replies, posted in Vista-Tool)
Hi,
A driverpacks for Vista (>NT6) would be welcome.
There are a few discussions on boot land regarding the lack of drivers and need for a good method to include them on WinPE 2.x boot disks.
http://www.boot-land.net/forums/index.p … topic=4150
We can also help with testing and providing feedback regarding how it works under VistaPE/WinPE
19 2008-03-11 08:43:44
Re: [project] UXP - multiboot Install CD with DriverPacks & LiveXP (17 replies, posted in Installation Platforms)
Please do sign me on the testing team - it would make really happy.
There are also a few suggestions by members on msfn that could be added so I'll work a bit longer to see them included on a newer version and also help out with any testings needed on driverpacks.
20 2008-03-10 08:42:33
Topic: [project] UXP - multiboot Install CD with DriverPacks & LiveXP (17 replies, posted in Installation Platforms)
Hi everyone!
My first introduction to this project was this introduction from Bashrat:
I've started these DriverPacks because I wanted to achieve a Uniform UXPCD. Why in the world would you want support for all available hardware, I hear you thinking. Well, that's easy to explain: to be able to use these unattended Windows XP installation CD's on any computer (of course one that's capable of running Windows XP).
So in that thread at MSFN.org I asked how I could do that. Of course people were laughing at me (a quote: "I think you'd be naive to think you'd be able to fit the (latest) drivers of every device made since XP was launched, on the one cd").
And when I clicked on the link to learn more about this Uniform UXPCD - I've sadly noticed that MSFN had removed this important page: http://forum.driverpacks.net/viewtopic.php?id=1792
For those who don't know me - My experience is focused on boot disks based on Windows XP PE (Pre-Installed) environments and myself along with a talented group of people came a long way developing advanced tools to create these boot disks using all sort of available methods and even proposing new techniques to do things in a more efficient way.
One of our initial attempts was this project here: http://forum.driverpacks.net/viewtopic.php?id=1792
This is the reason why I've become so interested in supporting the effort of the driverpacks team since it unlocked the lack of hardware support to further expand the features found on these boot disks that we've been using so extensively over these last few years.
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So, in tribute to this goal I present here the uxp project in the hope to see this concept of the "uniform XP" alive and well.
It's a platform designed to automatically build a huge sized XP DVD with all sort of features desired by computer techs.
Simplicity is the goal as it allows newbies to get their results with a few clicks and be used as power tool for advanced administrators.
Users can use it to automate the process of including driverpacks, downloading updates with WUD and slipstreaming programs or tweaks with nlite.
As I've mentioned before, our area of expertise are boot disks and this special project comes with one of the finest boot disk ever made available for the XP PE environment - LiveXP.
For demonstration purposes, another project called WinRoot will create a XP PE boot disk sized in 5Mb.
Using multiboot provided by BCDW, users can select between installing Windows, running LiveXP for diagnostics/rescue of their machine or try out WinRoot for fun.
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What is the practical use for DriverPacks?
It will automate the steps of selecting a valid Windows XP source, creating a new copy of the source folders to where the driverpacks can be slipstreamed and create a new ISO image.
Right after these steps, a computer emulator (virtual box) is launched and imgburn runs right after to burn a new DVD/RW.
We can also add nlite, wud, Ryan VM or any other tool desired to perfect the install disk - the important part is that all these components are optional and can either be removed, run separately or all together.
With WinBuilder it also becomes simple to update scripts with newer versions and do all sort of operations needed to tweak windows files such as handling registry hives, modifying files and automating complicated/lengthy steps.
This way every newbie user will have a good platform to create their first "complete" install CD/DVD's without need for complications and for those who value customizations this becomes a very handy tool to quickly create very complex results and share them with others.
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Full screenshot presentation of this project can be found here:
http://winbuilder.net/e107_plugins/auto … ojects/uxp
This project was previously released on boot-land and msfn for beta testing purposes and further discuss improvements, please read them to know more details:
http://www.msfn.org/board/project-uxp-t113249.html
http://www.boot-land.net/forums/project-uxp-t3651.html
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I'm quite sure that very few projects ever got this far regarding the efficiency in combining several different tools into a single package and I'm now proudly presenting this project as a gift to the DriverPacks team.
From this moment forward I hope you consider this project as your own since you can do whatever you wish with this build platform as it is completely royalty free and all included third-party software is open source or freeware with respective permission to be distributed exclusively on the driverpacks.net site.
Our community on boot land is mostly inclined to develop boot disks as it is what we do best and I'm quite sure that here is where the experts regarding Windows Installs are found - so our attention will continue focused to a few other projects, but I'll always provide full support to teach other DriverPacks team members to modify the scripts and add more features and tools whenever you require.
Sorry for this lengthy post.
Hope you enjoy this free platform and long life to DriverPacks!!
21 2007-12-13 03:08:14
Re: [Final] Mass Storage 711 (36 replies, posted in DriverPack Mass Storage)
Also working well enough on most machines I've tested at my workplace
Used source:
XP PRO SP2 Portuguese
+ nlite and addons
+ updates from MS
+ All latest driverpacks available on the download page this monday
Hardware:
Pentium IV
256Mb~512Mb
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Rebuilt several times in different configurations and also tested under Virtual Box emulator.
Only noticed a glitch when adding the graphic card driverpacks as it was needed to cancel the generic monitor display - nothing to do with mass storage anyways.
[General]
prefLang="English"
wizardButtons=no
GUI=no[Settings]
instPlatform="disc"
DriverPacks="select"
DPsMethod="2"
finisherMethod="GUIRunOnce"[SelectDriverPacks]
DP_MassStorage=yes
DP_MassStorage_textmode=yes
DP_Chipset=yes
DP_Chipset_textmode=yes
DP_CPU=yes
DP_CPU_textmode=yes
DP_Graphics_A=yes
DP_Graphics_A_textmode=yes
DP_Graphics_B=yes
DP_Graphics_B_textmode=yes
DP_Graphics_C=yes
DP_Graphics_C_textmode=yes
DP_LAN=yes
DP_LAN_textmode=yes
DP_Sound_A=yes
DP_Sound_A_textmode=yes
DP_Sound_B=yes
DP_Sound_B_textmode=yes
DP_WLAN=yes
DP_WLAN_textmode=yes
DPs_3rd_party=yes[OptionalSettings]
KTD=none
22 2007-07-24 21:47:07
Re: [project] Unattended XP Install with DriverPacks. (8 replies, posted in Installation Platforms)
Hi twig123!
An MD5 check is done on each downloaded file - this ensures some integrity when downloading files.
These files are first downloaded to a temporary location and only if they pass the MD5 test are copied to the definitive position overwriting older files (if any).
Never worked with RyanVM - would be great to have more people with experience explaining what can be done next, it's all free and modifiable - really meant to make things simple.
23 2007-07-23 23:32:43
Re: [project] Unattended XP Install with DriverPacks. (8 replies, posted in Installation Platforms)
Hi Helmi!
Thanks for trying, I've finally managed to get some real hardware were I could properly test things.
It seems that xpsetuplauncher itself is not working well and needs some extra parameters when calling winnt32.exe
On this project you can install XP from command line using WINNT32.EXE /MAKELOCALSOURCE - this should be enough to launch the setup process and place all files on disk - do you know any way to workaround this limitation?
Also been having an error with DPSbldr.exe when installing windows and no driverpacks seems to get installed - looked up the forums and found no reference to this file, but was hoping you would have a better idea on why KTD is not being applied - is something needing to corrected on the scripts that add support to driverpacks?
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We also use individual downloadable scripts/apps because each script can use it's own version and people might not need them all (some are too big sized to be included by default)
Would be really great if you or anyone else with more experience could help us correctly implement the driverpacks itself - as you see - it's possible to completely integrate it along with other tools in a automatic fashion but this still needs to be tested and improved and I lack a lot of experience installing windows (our boot land talks are mostly focused on PE based boot disks).
No changes need to be made on DriverPacks - and hopefully this sort of developments will become acessible to a whole lot more people that will also certainly contribute to keep this project alive and well.
We are however discussing a complete replacement of the windows install setup and directly install windows on a machine without fuzz - this would make windows install probably be complete under less than 10 minutes (no need to make local sources or text mode setup) with extra flexibility to apply this as we need and already running from ISO images or USB drives.
Look here: http://www.boot-land.net/forums/index.p … topic=2690
Windows Install is simply too limitative and we already know how to do it better.. :)
24 2007-07-23 03:24:10
Re: [project] Unattended XP Install with DriverPacks. (8 replies, posted in Installation Platforms)
Still a lot to learn from driverpacks - do let me know what you think that can be changed or improved - would be good to also add more tools, but my experience with Windows Installs is very reduced.
After this will start writing some pages on the wiki to help others getting started..
25 2007-07-22 09:40:05
Topic: [project] Unattended XP Install with DriverPacks. (8 replies, posted in Installation Platforms)
Unattended XP Install
This is a simple project that will allow to re-create a XP Install disk with our custom changes.
Download here (~900Kb)
This zipped file contains a custom wb with predefined web server - you only need to press the download button and follow the step-by-step instructions or read the quick start guide.
To start press Play
Main advantages
- Adds all known driverpacks automatically (including third party packs) - which includes a very extensive support for SATA, LAN and WLAN
- Add a liveXP project with extra tools to help cleaning up the drive of rescue/reorganize files before installing XP to disk (mmc also enabled)
- Launch the XP instalation in unattended method using XPsetupLauncher with your configuration (license key, username, etc)
- Do all these actions automaticaly
Known Issues
Wasn't tested on real hardware and installing XP under qemu took a long while - also had to be launched typing winnt32.exe /makelocalsource - for some reason I couldn't run xpsetuplauncher (but this might not be needed on real hardware).
You need to have web access to download the selected driverpacks from the web when running the project for the first time - they were too big to be included (>300Mb when all packs are selected), and they are automaticaly downloaded while the project is building if not already found on disk.
Takes some time to finish the project - on my machine it took around 15 minutes for a complete build (at least it's still much faster than doing all these actions manually by yourself)
Expect a very large ISO when adding all driverpacks (>1Gb)
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DriverPacks was kind enough to offer their help and allowing for the whole slipstreaming process to be completely automated inside the overall project build.
http://forum.driverpacks.net/viewtopic.php?id=1536
A big THANKS to the driverpacks development team!
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Please test and let me know your opinion on what needs to be changed or improved.
Would really like to know if the xpsetuplauncher can really work on real hardware and effectively install unattended windows as expected.
I've done this project mostly because it was very time consuming to do all the above steps by myself, maybe next step is adding grub4dos so that the setup install can also be launched at boot time.
You can also use other liveCD projects like nativeEx - there's a script that let's you decide which project to run - but this has been targeted to XP, so using vistaPE is not yet supported.
Also worth mentioning that driverpacks will slipstream the drivers onto the Windows Install Folder. LiveXP already contains SATA drivers, maybe a LAN pack should be added soon as a script if time helps or someone volunters to this task.
Have fun!