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MeOW wrote:Also, note the 'vibe' XP64 enjoys on ptp: " WAREZ ARE NOT TOLERATED LINK REMOVED Jeff "
Pathetic. I wasn't even linking to "warez", I was pointing out a tendency that ANYONE with an internet connection can see using Google or any other meta ptp search engine.
Bunch of hypocrites. As if you are remotely "legal" with the inclusion of drivers in packs. Give us a break and grow up!
And the Troll has resurfaced! With your type it's not good enough to leave well enough alone. You linked to a warez/ptp site. That's not allowed. You could have just stated what you said in the quoted text and would not have been in violation of the rules of the forum.
In regards to the legality of the Driverpacks, as far as I know there hasn't been even one cease and desist letter to pull one driver from the packs. If there was we would certainly comply. We aren't really doing anything differently than driverguide.com, drivershq.com, pcdrivers.com, etc. We are packaging the files, editing a couple lines in the INF to clean them up because of bad coding and hosting the driver itself. We aren't modifying the actual drivers sys/dll/cab code at all which would certainly be illegal.
Good point. I didn't think about that. See thats why your the man with the master plan.
Move the slipstream button the the location of the next button at the very last step in the Base program.
Why?
I find that it's kinda klugey to always have the slipstream button there when really the only time you can use it is at the end of the process, after you've configured everything. Why not just have the back and next buttons and then when you get to the last step remove the next button and replace it with slipstream?
There's a option in dpinst.exe that allows you to override "if newer". I just don't remember what it is.
Hi Doody,
Honestly the easiest way to do it is described here...
http://forum.driverpacks.net/viewtopic. … 585#p29585
Like vernalex's tool. I see. I wrote a function like that into Driverforge way back when.
You need to contact Acronis in order to add drivers to your Acronis boot disk. We don't have a way to do it. IF you have an account you can contact them through it. If not then I suggest you buy a copy.
Fair enough. I just thought it would be a nice added feature is all. Galapo, does your program work with LiveXP and all its variants?
Also, Ian I found something that you might find helpful.
This is what teamwork is about! I'll try and test it out at some point.
Galapo, could you add an option to mount a VMWare image and use that for the target?
Ian, you can change one number in the reg binary of the msoobe registry key and call the msoobe activation and it will ask for a new number.
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/328874
With sysprep.exe you can use -mini -reseal for re-entering the activation key.
Again, it seems you can't read, so I'll post them again:
... 30 second google searched websites ...
Also, note the 'vibe' XP64 enjoys on ptp: --- perhaps you don't know the rules ---It's no coincidence that these guys: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1GBPreUPXk&fmt=18 do all their testing on custom XP x64 installations. I do honest testing with many qualified users. You are the sheep behind Microsoft's push-market. Which by the way belongs to the dark-ages, seeing as it has destroyed your economy. Stop thinking you need to 'grow' or 'upgrade' when things are working just fine for most users out there. XP64 ain't broken, there is no need whatsoever to regard it as such.
Where does that nonsense about "making up fake statistics" come from, show me where they have been made up. They haven't. Accusing people of things they haven't done is really dumb.
Forcing people to upgrade (their hardware and operating systems) for no apparent reason is really dumb too, by the way.
*bleating /on*
Posting Google searches wont get you anywhere. You obviously have an issue with being even slightly wrong. May I ask how old you are? Is English your secondary language? Maybe there's a language barrier. Insulting members who've actually contributed to the cause will only get you banned. I'm trying to civil and you keep insulting people.
If you're going to go the route of not being a "sheep" why use Windows at all? Why don't you go to a 'true' OS like Redhat or the many other *Nix variants? But, alas, it is you who truly cannot read or you choose to not understand what is said. You haven't definitively answered the question I posed. And you continue to twist the argument and leave out portions of what has been stated. You have to remember that there many people in this world, many much smarter than yourself, many who disagree with you and perhaps some who agree. You need to stop whining and accept that.
Eventually we will need to "'grow'" and "'upgrade'". That's life. I'm not saying it needs to be now, not saying it needs to be in a year or two, but eventually. The whole industry drives it. Tell me, in the future, if there's an application that you need to use in order to be paid and it requires Window 7, will you say no out of sheer stubbornness? And what if you were to work for a company that uses Windows 7, will you tell them to downgrade because it's your preference to use Windows XP 64bit? I'm also not saying I want it. I have to support and deploy it, remember.
You also need to know that just because 64bit has worked for you, it won't work for everyone and every hardware. The many testers here can attest to that even with 32bit OS and the complexities that introduces. These manufacturers can't get their act together with that how in the world will they for 64bit?
The fake statistics are here http://forum.driverpacks.net/viewtopic. … 040#p28040 - I'd like to see where you got 99.9% from. As for the Youtube video, ugh, really? Windows 7 isn't out yet. The video is posted from Nov 25, 2008, why would they be using Windows 7 for testing? Your argument holds no water, of course they would use 64bit 2003/XP because of the 4gb limit of 32bit.
*bleating /off*
kickarse wrote:Meow, your just going to have to accept at some point that XP is going away
You have no idea what you're writing about. It's not going away anytime soon; http://support.microsoft.com/lifecycle/?p1=3198 As long as microsoft releases updates for 2003 SP2 x64, any XP x64 user will be able to apply them. Even better:
http://support.microsoft.com/lifecycle/?p1=8599 <- There isn't even an end date set for XP x64 yet!There is no need to upgrade AT ALL. XP x64 will be running JUST FINE for years on end, and I see no reason to stop using it if it's THE BEST O.S. on the market right now.
Your claim in favor of "upgrading" to bloated slow untested and generally dumb new operating systems is really sad and unfounded. XP x64 is by far the most effective OS at this time, for Quad Core and Dual Core processors and DDR3. This has been proven time and again, and is a known fact for Microsoft as well.
By the way, it's "you're" not "your". Maybe learn some grammar and spelling first, then think about having an opinion on the lifespan of operating systems.
You've certainly got your skirt in a bunch huh? Talk about a grammar Nazi, geez. I can cherry pick your incorrect grammar and sentencing structure as well. You're just arguing and it's not helpful.
Though, I'm fairly positive that my 10 years of professional/business computing experience (and many more non-professional years), and continued experience, gives me warrant to make substantiated claims about certain things regarding the operating systems we have used, currently use and will acquire.
The point I was making was and is from a business stand point, and perhaps, therein lies the problem. Microsoft will be end life cycle on Windows XP, at least 32bit, soon. We don't use or support 64 bit in our environments and I have not seen a need to deploy it. Perhaps I was too general in saying 'XP was going away'. A mute point, but I never said that XP 64bit was itself going away soon. But when one goes the other is usually short to follow.
We can also all just keep plugging along on Windows 2000 or 98, too! And why not? If you don't see a need to upgrade then don't. But the world around you will. And as unfortunate as that is, that's the way it is.
To quote, "There is no need to upgrade AT ALL. XP x64 will be running JUST FINE for years on end, and I see no reason to stop using it if it's THE BEST O.S. on the market right now." Seriously, really, honestly, more and more software will come out that will abandon support for OS's past. Years to come you will have a piece of software you will want or have to use that will need some newer OS. It's quite obvious to me that you fit into one of these roles: you haven't been in the IT business at all or a very short time or your a regular consumer or kid trying to make a 'point' or some computer science major who thinks he knows how the world works.
By the way, I never claimed to hate XP 32 or 64 bit. In fact I love XP in all forms. Nor do I feel it particularly necessary to upgrade to Windows 7 or Vista. But, Windows 7 is hardly untested and bloated. And it will/should be out by end of year. Microsoft cannot afford to make the same mistake twice. The MS behemoth will die and people will continue to use XP 64bit "for years on end", "bloated" Vista and never upgrade, forever.
Honestly, you still sound like a troll, arguing over silly things that'll obviously get the goat of many here. Still, what are you going to to about helping with getting 64bit drivers for XP? Donate all your time and money? And this was one of the other points I was making. The majority of users are with 32bit XP right now and we only have so much voluntary, unpaid staff. So instead of fighting over it, help.
And stop making up fake statistics it's really "dumb".
Great work guys! Just wish Vista-Tools has a cooler name
Meow, your just going to have to accept at some point that XP is going away, like 2000, 98, 95, 3.1 before it. Windows 7 will be the cats meow, pun intended. It's Vista, but better. Vista is to W7 like ME was to XP.
Yes, Driverpacks currently supports XP. But now driverpacks are starting to support Vista too, eventually Windows7. I don't see the justification of adding 64bit for a smaller base of users than the those using OSX.
I digress, I think that more people would use XP 64bit if the drivers/software was more readily available. I just don't see us having the unpaid, voluntary, manpower to accomplish the task of also doing a set of 64bit drivers.
Stop getting all pissy about it and DO something about it Meow. I can google search a whole bunch of XP 64bit websites too! So why don't you start working on drivers for mass storage 64bit. Because as of right now all you sound like is a troll.
It's too bad we can't use ntldr, ntdetect.com to query the sub system and gather the appropriate information.
I for one am very pissed that MS didn't keep the detecthal option on boot. Wtf! But what this does mean is that it is possible, as long as we build our own lol.
I wonder if there's a way to piggy back off of the loader exes?
Also, there's the PantherXP way of doing it, injecting drivers into a WIM. The guy is on the boot-land.net forums.
Honestly, the HAL isn't the issue for me because I can set all my options using the boot.ini and then do the set the appropriate HAL when loaded into windows. The issue for me is selecting the drivers, not going past the memory limit and not crashing the system on next boot.
So, now, basically we run OSP on a live system, turn the machine off, capture the image, then deploy the image, turn the newly deploy workstation on?
I'm happy I was able to help the infamous Galapo!
I would love to test it out, I would love to see the process behind the scenes too.
What about some help
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/q176695/
http://freenet-homepage.de/gborn/WSHBaz … itWin3.htm
http://www.astahost.com/info.php/Window … t4290.html
http://www.codeproject.com/KB/dialog/Ra … ticle.aspx
http://www.vbaccelerator.com/home/vb/ti … rticle.asp
What about WMIC (WMI Console)
WMIC OS Where Primary=TRUE Call Reboot
or with Devcon.exe (non-distributable)
devcon reboot
WSH VBS
Set OpSysSet = GetObject("winmgmts:{(Shutdown)}//./root/cimv2").ExecQuery("select * from Win32_OperatingSystem where Primary=true")
for each OpSys in OpSysSet
OpSys.Reboot()
next
Found here http://www.robvanderwoude.com/shutdown.php with other examples
Nice!! What type of shutdown app are you needing?
Also, did you write it using part of the source of crystal program? Are you just initially setting the HAL to the one HAL that works with most systems? or is it where it truly finds the HAL before loading NTLDR?
Good find bud! That might actually work nicely. I wonder if we could instead load it into an SDI and boot the cd without even having to setup another partition?
Described here using RDPath - http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysi … 63892.aspx
and
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library … ed.5).aspx
http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?showtopic=118332
So perhaps the option is to on the next boot have the system load BartsPE (as small of a load as possible) from the drive itself, have Galapo's utility run automatically (set HAL and mass storage) and reboot the machine?
OT: Or do something with WIM and RIS
I really wish that 911cd.net would load... it always errors out for me.
Sounds good I'll check them out. Thanks!
Ian, the only reason why I suggest it is because of the development already done with it with UDA...
http://www.ultimatedeployment.org/forum … &t=295
http://www.ultimatedeployment.org/about.html
http://www.ultimatedeployment.org/forum … um.php?f=1
Its possible we could adapt it to work without having to PXE boot and work on a currently installed OS.
I don't think people would care if 10-50mb of space is used. They take that up easily by temp history by surfing and some drivers are easily double, triple that. And I believe you can load an img file with Grub so you wouldn't have to create a separate partition.
But then again you'd have to worry about TWO distro's of OS seeing hardware instead of just one. Ugh...
//----- Chris
Hi Doody,
My program is called FindHWIDS. However, I do not use regular expression to find the HWIDS. Mainly because of how the INF files are created and the ability to filter what your looking for.
You might find RogueSpears tool helpful in the regular expression area, which IS called ListHWIDS.vbs, located here http://forum.driverpacks.net/viewtopic.php?id=3148 . He hasn't updated it in a while and it's essentially broken.
Though, I don't know if I feel comfortable giving my code away to a non-regular. What are you looking to use the code for?
Also, for anyone interested, I'm going to be adding code to check for HWID strings that might have a continuance of hwids using the backslash symbol inline. Documentation says that it'd be a backslash and line feed (@LF), the next line will be a comma then one (or more seperated by comma's) hwids.
So mysysprep.exe still is held back by the mass storage devices being installed by the sysprep pre setup. Can you call MySysprep via the registry without running the MySysprep installer and see if it works?
I think building upon Galapo's experience will help us tremendously in finding out what we need to change to the window OS install to make it universal. But to do it in a way that Sysprep does without the need of external media.
Perhaps using GRUB to run a Linux live boot or console on next reboot, running a script to find the OS, OS arch, CPU type/model/procs, Mass storage controllers, storage device that windows resides on, edit ntfs data for the HAL, edit registry for storage controller/disk and reboot.
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