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Re: BASE1006 Mass+Chip1206, nLite w/NOdrivers: 0x7B Dell Inspiron1525 Sata

null@example.com (OverFlow) — Wed, 19 Dec 2012 04:07:22 +0000

definately not...

DriverPacks BASE is designed to do a very specific task... integrate drivers into a NT5 ODD based unattended setup.

To use it for anything else is not supported. Therefore no BUG.

HOWEVER we could always improve the process if it makes sense .

Re: BASE1006 Mass+Chip1206, nLite w/NOdrivers: 0x7B Dell Inspiron1525 Sata

null@example.com (TechDud) — Sun, 16 Dec 2012 08:06:50 +0000

verified. setupp.ini, then dosnet.inf

Edit: Did OldB find one of those 1-in-a-million "bug"s in BASE?

Re: BASE1006 Mass+Chip1206, nLite w/NOdrivers: 0x7B Dell Inspiron1525 Sata

null@example.com (TechDud) — Sun, 16 Dec 2012 07:41:00 +0000

Maybe i was a little hasty.

the other file was setupp.ini. I have to read these as they load off the disc.
...venturing to get my camera's battery charged to "tape" it to be certain.

a look in layout.inf reveals no dosnet.inf reference.
here is the reference to setupp.ini:

setupp.ini = 1,,63,,,,_x,,3,3

The full error screen reads:

Windows XP Professional Setup
==============================

Setup cannot find a previous version of Windows installed on your computer.  To continue, Setup needs to verify that you qualify to use this upgrade product.

Please insert one of the following Windows product CDs into the CD-ROM drive: Windows XP Home Edition (full version), Windows XP Professional (full version), Windows 2000 Professional, Windows Millennium, Windows 98, Windows NT Workstation 4.0, Windows 95, or Windows NT Workstation 3.51.

     - When the CD is in the drive, press ENTER.
     - To quit Setup, press F3.

I copied layout.inf, dosnet.inf, & setupp.ini to the root of the thumbdrive to no avail.

Re: BASE1006 Mass+Chip1206, nLite w/NOdrivers: 0x7B Dell Inspiron1525 Sata

null@example.com (OverFlow) — Sun, 16 Dec 2012 07:03:32 +0000

don't be so quick to be sure...

I had this issue with BartPE too... I wondered why PEBuilder did not copy the files that were added to the I386 folder from a source slipstreamed with DriverPack MassStorage to the PE build... the answer was related to the files PEbuilder uses to figure out what to copy... one of those files was layout.inf... If they are using a similar method then the issue may be a result of our lazyness . We update enough files to make it work for what we do, but we do not update it as well as say a service pack would .

Re: BASE1006 Mass+Chip1206, nLite w/NOdrivers: 0x7B Dell Inspiron1525 Sata

null@example.com (TechDud) — Sun, 16 Dec 2012 06:50:58 +0000

one is dosnet.inf

Re: BASE1006 Mass+Chip1206, nLite w/NOdrivers: 0x7B Dell Inspiron1525 Sata

null@example.com (TechDud) — Sun, 16 Dec 2012 06:49:49 +0000

I do not blame DP_BASE. I "blame" Rufus. Everything is the same other than the media used and file layout.
If i can find which two files are read from the disc, they can be manually copied onto the root of the thumbdrive, then this issue is history.

Re: BASE1006 Mass+Chip1206, nLite w/NOdrivers: 0x7B Dell Inspiron1525 Sata

null@example.com (OverFlow) — Sun, 16 Dec 2012 06:43:36 +0000

TechDud wrote:

It would seem that WinSetupUSB & Rufus might have a bug in common for at least this controller
on an Inspiron 1525.

Agreed
Works on ODD fails at USB...

Seems to be Error @ usb preparation.

However, this error may be related to DriverPacks BASE not updating the layout.inf or some other catalog type files.

Re: BASE1006 Mass+Chip1206, nLite w/NOdrivers: 0x7B Dell Inspiron1525 Sata

null@example.com (TechDud) — Sun, 16 Dec 2012 06:32:04 +0000

Installing from a DVD+RW worked like a charm. Driver v7.8.0.1012 is installed; although not what i had hoped, yet understandable considering dps6AHCI, dps6Stor, dps7AHCI & dps7Stor.inf are non-WHQL'ed and depreciated by Windows because of this.

The "new" driver (v11.2) worked, yes, although i have to update it manually and both the driver and executable are seen as non-WHQL, despite the executables being signed.

=====================================================================

I have been able to replicate my issue of a non-visible HDD using AHCI.

I used the same ISO file as the one used successfully on a DVD+RW disc.
I used Rufus to burn this image on a thumbdrive.
It saw the partition that i wanted to install on, and had previously, configured as AHCI.
I deleted that partition after booting my thumbdrive.
I then created a new partition.
The next step was to restart using .

Upon restart, after the drivers loaded, i was presented with the same error message "Setup cannot find a previous version of Windows installed."

I restarted with the previously made DVD+RW (same ISO) and was greeted with a visible drive.
I deleted that partition and created a new one.

A restart with the thumbdrive instead of the DVD+RW yielded the same error.
At the error page (it requests the Windows CD, BTW) i inserted the disc, a couple of files were read, then the partition was visible. The odd thing is that the thumbdrive is seen as a second drive, yet is listed first (that is the odd thing).

OldB wrote:

"I *then* used the tool at http://www.msfn.org/board/topic/120444- … -with-gui/ to transfer the folder onto a bootable USB memory stick.
When I use the stick in a Dell Inspiron 1525 set to IDE-mode then it all works but when I try it with the BIOS set to "[AHCI]"-mode the install fails as it tries to do the "final" boot."

It would seem that WinSetupUSB & Rufus might have a bug in common for at least this controller
on an Inspiron 1525.

Re: BASE1006 Mass+Chip1206, nLite w/NOdrivers: 0x7B Dell Inspiron1525 Sata

null@example.com (TechDud) — Sun, 16 Dec 2012 04:01:45 +0000

Hello, i see a similar issue on my Inspiron 1525 (same HWid's as above).

Instead of $7B, i do not reach the partitioning phase. I see "Setup cannot find a previous version of Windows installed." I used Rufus to build my USB stick. Textmode is using [I3], GUI to use dps6AHCI.inf within [I6].

When i burnt my newest image on a DVD+RW, textmode sees my HDD OK ([I3] for textmode, dps7AHCI.inf in [I7] for GUI).

152626 MB Disk 0 at Id 0 on bus 0 on iastor3 [MBR]

I will update this after (hopefully) a full install.

Re: BASE1006 Mass+Chip1206, nLite w/NOdrivers: 0x7B Dell Inspiron1525 Sata

null@example.com (OverFlow) — Fri, 17 Aug 2012 02:33:19 +0000

NO reason for the rest of us to jump in when mr_S grabs the thread.

those of us who have been here for 5 or more years don't need to have others add anything.
Once you have a moderator or admin responding we aren't going to miss anything.
We have been doing this for many years and have seen it all dozens of times .

But rest assured we are lurking in the shadows...

Jeff

Re: BASE1006 Mass+Chip1206, nLite w/NOdrivers: 0x7B Dell Inspiron1525 Sata

null@example.com (OldB) — Thu, 16 Aug 2012 20:33:02 +0000

The nLited XP SP3 has now been through DriverPacks BASE Mass+Chip w/Method 2 and *no* KTD or QSC and it DID install OK from a USB pen drive as a 3rd XP system on the drive and the HDD controllers show up as ICH8 in the target system's device manager.

Just FYI the three XP installations *do* appear to co-exist OK even though the earliest I saved *does crash* with 0x7B and when you choose it (from boot.ini) it does offer Safe Mode etc. as it knows the last start failed for THAT XP.
I only mention it as it seemed like a useful approach (leave file system intact during very early prompt by XP install text mode) so that it relatively easy to compare and re-test - obviously *not* for anything other than test builds.

I had assumed that the media (CD / USB) was not required with *Method 1* during the 3rd (GUI) stage but just *maybe* I did take the USB stick out rather than having it launch Grub4DOS etc. to then drop into booting the HDD.
Obviously I had misread the features / description of Method 1 or at least misinterpreted them.

Many thanks for your assistance - I had expected that there would be other people with ideas or input but obviously they leave this section to yourself to moderate / respond. Maybe I should have raised it in the MSS section instead. Again thanks - OldB.

Re: BASE1006 Mass+Chip1206, nLite w/NOdrivers: 0x7B Dell Inspiron1525 Sata

null@example.com (mr_smartepants) — Thu, 16 Aug 2012 18:05:28 +0000

Having multiple OS on the same drive isn't a problem in itself, provided that there's no problems with each OS that would prevent it from booting (BSOD).

Yes, removing the OS install source during any phase of the install would cause a critical failure because not all the source files are copied to the target drive. The installer looks to the original install source for certain files throughout the install process.
The only time it's safe to remove the install medium is after first login and you're sitting at the desktop and all is quiet.

Re: BASE1006 Mass+Chip1206, nLite w/NOdrivers: 0x7B Dell Inspiron1525 Sata

null@example.com (OldB) — Thu, 16 Aug 2012 14:21:21 +0000

mr_smartepants wrote:

Oddly, the dell website has the older version of the driver here:
As expected, there is no difference between that driver and the one we have in \D\M\I3\ (other than we have the newer version).
To see your system configuration, put your "service tag" info into this page:
Try rebuilding your XP source. Nothing fancy, just a vanilla XP source and DriverPacks BASE with DriverPack Chipset & dpms. Use Method-2 and be sure to enable textmode. Disable QSC and KTD options.
Report back if successful.

Thanks for the links and I have done as requested - I also chose to keep the current file system so I have a dual-boot one of which fails... The HWID output is:

===========
PCI Devices
===========
PCI\VEN_1180&DEV_0592&SUBSYS_022F1028&REV_12\4&28D6DE3B&0&4BF0: Base System Device
PCI\VEN_1180&DEV_0822&SUBSYS_022F1028&REV_22\4&28D6DE3B&0&49F0: SDA Standard Compliant SD Host Controller
PCI\VEN_1180&DEV_0832&SUBSYS_022F1028&REV_05\4&28D6DE3B&0&48F0: OHCI Compliant IEEE 1394 Host Controller
PCI\VEN_1180&DEV_0843&SUBSYS_022F1028&REV_12\4&28D6DE3B&0&4AF0: Base System Device
PCI\VEN_1180&DEV_0852&SUBSYS_022F1028&REV_12\4&28D6DE3B&0&4CF0: Base System Device
PCI\VEN_11AB&DEV_4354&SUBSYS_022F1028&REV_12\4&541B6E0&0&00E0: Ethernet Controller
PCI\VEN_14E4&DEV_4315&SUBSYS_000B1028&REV_01\4&AB208E&0&00E1: Network Controller
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2448&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_F2\3&61AAA01&0&F0 : Intel(R) 82801 PCI Bridge - 2448
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2815&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_02\3&61AAA01&0&F8 : Intel(R) ICH8M LPC Interface Controller - 2815
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2828&SUBSYS_022F1028&REV_02\3&61AAA01&0&FA : Intel(R) ICH8M 3 port Serial ATA Storage Controller - 2828
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2830&SUBSYS_022F1028&REV_02\3&61AAA01&0&E8 : Intel(R) ICH8 Family USB Universal Host Controller - 2830
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2831&SUBSYS_022F1028&REV_02\3&61AAA01&0&E9 : Intel(R) ICH8 Family USB Universal Host Controller - 2831
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2832&SUBSYS_022F1028&REV_02\3&61AAA01&0&EA : Intel(R) ICH8 Family USB Universal Host Controller - 2832
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2834&SUBSYS_022F1028&REV_02\3&61AAA01&0&D0 : Intel(R) ICH8 Family USB Universal Host Controller - 2834
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2835&SUBSYS_022F1028&REV_02\3&61AAA01&0&D1 : Intel(R) ICH8 Family USB Universal Host Controller - 2835
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2836&SUBSYS_022F1028&REV_02\3&61AAA01&0&EF : Intel(R) ICH8 Family USB2 Enhanced Host Controller - 2836
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_283A&SUBSYS_022F1028&REV_02\3&61AAA01&0&D7 : Intel(R) ICH8 Family USB2 Enhanced Host Controller - 283A
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_283E&SUBSYS_022F1028&REV_02\3&61AAA01&0&FB : Intel(R) ICH8 Family SMBus Controller - 283E
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_283F&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_02\3&61AAA01&0&E0 : Intel(R) ICH8 Family PCI Express Root Port 1 - 283F
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2841&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_02\3&61AAA01&0&E1 : Intel(R) ICH8 Family PCI Express Root Port 2 - 2841
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2847&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_02\3&61AAA01&0&E4 : Intel(R) ICH8 Family PCI Express Root Port 5 - 2847
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_284B&SUBSYS_022F1028&REV_02\3&61AAA01&0&D8 : Microsoft UAA Bus Driver for High Definition Audio
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2850&SUBSYS_022F1028&REV_02\3&61AAA01&0&F9 : Intel(R) ICH8M Ultra ATA Storage Controllers - 2850
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2A00&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_0C\3&61AAA01&0&00 : Mobile Intel(R) PM965/GM965/GL960/GS965 Express Processor to DRAM Controller - 2A00
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2A02&SUBSYS_022F1028&REV_0C\3&61AAA01&0&10 : Video Controller (VGA Compatible)
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2A03&SUBSYS_022F1028&REV_0C\3&61AAA01&0&11 : Video Controller
26 matching device(s) found.

===========
USB Devices
===========
USB\ROOT_HUB\4&1AC45A8&0                                    : USB Root Hub
USB\ROOT_HUB\4&2FF58AFB&0                                   : USB Root Hub
USB\ROOT_HUB\4&38AFEF30&0                                   : USB Root Hub
USB\ROOT_HUB\4&60EB717&0                                    : USB Root Hub
USB\ROOT_HUB\4&CC4B5FC&0                                    : USB Root Hub
USB\ROOT_HUB20\4&1FC6B18A&0                                 : USB Root Hub
USB\ROOT_HUB20\4&6A19B8E&0                                  : USB Root Hub
USB\VID_0325&PID_AC02\AA04012700134083                      : USB Mass Storage Device
USB\VID_0A5C&PID_4500\5&8AEBF70&0&2                         : Generic USB Hub
USB\VID_0A5C&PID_4502\6&5E3E8F0&0&2                         : USB Human Interface Device
USB\VID_0A5C&PID_4503\6&5E3E8F0&0&3                         : USB Human Interface Device
USB\VID_18A5&PID_0302\00001006207303                        : USB Mass Storage Device
USB\VID_413C&PID_8126\6&5E3E8F0&0&1                         : BCM2045
USBSTOR\DISK&VEN_OCZ&PROD_ATV&REV_1100\AA04012700134083&0   : OCZ ATV USB Device
USBSTOR\DISK&VEN_VERBATIM&PROD_STORE_N_GO&REV_0.00\00001006207303&0: Verbatim STORE N GO USB Device
15 matching device(s) found.

=============
Input Devices
=============
HID\VID_0A5C&PID_4502\7&218C7798&0&0000                     : HID Keyboard Device
HID\VID_0A5C&PID_4503&COL01\7&101EB523&0&0000               : HID-compliant mouse
HID\VID_0A5C&PID_4503&COL02\7&101EB523&0&0001               : HID-compliant consumer control device
3 matching device(s) found.

============
ACPI Devices
============
ACPI\ACPI0003\2&DABA3FF&0                                   : Microsoft AC Adapter
ACPI\GENUINEINTEL_-_X86_FAMILY_6_MODEL_15\_0                : Intel(R) Pentium(R) Dual  CPU  T3200  @ 2.00GHz
ACPI\GENUINEINTEL_-_X86_FAMILY_6_MODEL_15\_1                : Intel(R) Pentium(R) Dual  CPU  T3200  @ 2.00GHz
ACPI\PNP0000\4&2F94427B&0                                   : Programmable interrupt controller
ACPI\PNP0100\4&2F94427B&0                                   : System timer
ACPI\PNP0103\4&2F94427B&0                                   : High Precision Event Timer
ACPI\PNP0200\4&2F94427B&0                                   : Direct memory access controller
ACPI\PNP0303\4&2F94427B&0                                   : Standard 101/102-Key or Microsoft Natural PS/2 Keyboard
ACPI\PNP0800\4&2F94427B&0                                   : System speaker
ACPI\PNP0A03\2&DABA3FF&0                                    : PCI bus
ACPI\PNP0B00\4&2F94427B&0                                   : System CMOS/real time clock
ACPI\PNP0C01\1                                              : System board
ACPI\PNP0C01\2                                              : System board
ACPI\PNP0C01\3                                              : System board
ACPI\PNP0C01\4                                              : System board
ACPI\PNP0C02\4&2F94427B&0                                   : Motherboard resources
ACPI\PNP0C04\4&2F94427B&0                                   : Numeric data processor
ACPI\PNP0C0A\1                                              : Microsoft ACPI-Compliant Control Method Battery
ACPI\PNP0C0C\2&DABA3FF&0                                    : ACPI Power Button
ACPI\PNP0C0D\2&DABA3FF&0                                    : ACPI Lid
ACPI\PNP0C0E\2&DABA3FF&0                                    : ACPI Sleep Button
ACPI\PNP0C14\0                                              : Microsoft Windows Management Interface for ACPI
ACPI\PNP0F13\4&2F94427B&0                                   : PS/2 Compatible Mouse
ACPI\THERMALZONE\THM_                                       : ACPI Thermal Zone
ACPI_HAL\PNP0C08\0                                          : Microsoft ACPI-Compliant System
ROOT\ACPI_HAL\0000                                          : ACPI Multiprocessor PC
26 matching device(s) found.

============
 HDA Audio
============
HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_1095&DEV_1392&SUBSYS_1028022F&REV_1000\4&21C1B09&0&0101: Audio Device on High Definition Audio Bus
HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_8384&DEV_7616&SUBSYS_1028022F&REV_1004\4&21C1B09&0&0201: Audio Device on High Definition Audio Bus
HDAUDIO\FUNC_02&VEN_14F1&DEV_2C06&SUBSYS_14F1000F&REV_1000\4&21C1B09&0&0002: Modem Device on High Definition Audio Bus
3 matching device(s) found.

============
RAID Devices
============
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2828&SUBSYS_022F1028&REV_02\3&61AAA01&0&FA
    Name: Intel(R) ICH8M 3 port Serial ATA Storage Controller - 2828
    Hardware ID's:
        PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2828&SUBSYS_022F1028&REV_02
        PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2828&SUBSYS_022F1028
        PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2828&CC_01018F
        PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2828&CC_0101
    Compatible ID's:
        PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2828&REV_02
        PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2828
        PCI\VEN_8086&CC_01018F
        PCI\VEN_8086&CC_0101
        PCI\VEN_8086
        PCI\CC_01018F
        PCI\CC_0101
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2850&SUBSYS_022F1028&REV_02\3&61AAA01&0&F9
    Name: Intel(R) ICH8M Ultra ATA Storage Controllers - 2850
    Hardware ID's:
        PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2850&SUBSYS_022F1028&REV_02
        PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2850&SUBSYS_022F1028
        PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2850&CC_01018A
        PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2850&CC_0101
    Compatible ID's:
        PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2850&REV_02
        PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2850
        PCI\VEN_8086&CC_01018A
        PCI\VEN_8086&CC_0101
        PCI\VEN_8086
        PCI\CC_01018A
        PCI\CC_0101
2 matching device(s) found.

Can I assume that this output isn't really just looking at HW IDs but at what drivers are assigned to them - hence you needed the tool to run in the *target* installed XP system rather than the PE that I *could* boot?

Obviously my aim is *non* vanilla SP3 so I am now trying my nLited SP3 with Method 2, Chip+MSS, Disabled QSC+KTD, presumably leaving the file system intact (i.e. Multi-Boot) isn't a problem during testing what does and doesn't work?

Any thoughts on why the original build worked on an Acer tower (ICH7 chipset) and yet not on a Dell Laptop welcome from anyone - even guesses as it might inspire a "line of enquiry"...

Just one other Q - I can't remember if I did this *but* - when using method 1 - does the source CD (in my case USB) *need* to be kept in the drive as the 3rd stage of install (GUI? after PE after Text)? There is just a *chance* that I took the USB stick out so that it didn't "interfere" with the GUI Boot - what symptoms would you expect or entries in (which/where) log files etc.? I *doubt* that I made this mistake as I tried the build twice at least and would have to have made the same mistake 2-3 times.

Thanks for the assistance so far - my instincts are that this latest build will be OK (hope!) but it would be nice to understand what went wrong but I don't expect anyone to delve into the KTD or QSC aspects of this if they aren't that useful - they just appeared to offer some benefits when I looked at their features... OldB

Re: BASE1006 Mass+Chip1206, nLite w/NOdrivers: 0x7B Dell Inspiron1525 Sata

null@example.com (mr_smartepants) — Wed, 15 Aug 2012 19:31:59 +0000

Oddly, the dell website has the older version of the driver here:
As expected, there is no difference between that driver and the one we have in \D\M\I3\ (other than we have the newer version).
To see your system configuration, put your "service tag" info into this page:

Try rebuilding your XP source. Nothing fancy, just a vanilla XP source and DriverPacks BASE with DriverPack Chipset & dpms. Use Method-2 and be sure to enable textmode. Disable QSC and KTD options.
Report back if successful.

Re: BASE1006 Mass+Chip1206, nLite w/NOdrivers: 0x7B Dell Inspiron1525 Sata

null@example.com (OldB) — Wed, 15 Aug 2012 18:53:52 +0000

Just in case anyone else sees this and wants to reply or use what has been said so far...

I now *have* used exactly the same USB stick on a "spare" PC that needed a new XP and that *did work with SATA" in fact the ICH7 chipset is very visible in device manager on an Acer - 3-4 year old (2007-9ish). It went through all 3 stages without a hitch - I even saw a brief splash of KTP post-op work. So maybe this post should be moved to the MSS section of this forum if the moderator agrees.

Can anyone point me at a site or even just a good set of words/phrases for a Google search so that I can find out what this Dell has "under the hood" in terms of Chipset etc. just in case that can give me a clue?

Any chance that the CPU DP would have helped just in case that stopped drivers being discovered? Although when I think - the install worked in IDE/ATA mode even if very few drivers were found so maybe not - thoughts anyone? OldB.