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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: [NOT APPROVED] DriverPacks Updates Patches...]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>No time to read the entire topic, but...</p><p>The only main difference is the difference in bandwidth necessary for you and the bandwidth I have to buy. It would actually take LONGER to slipstream the DriverPacks, for example in method 2 everything would have to be re-compressed and I can tell you that takes longer than just 30 seconds - which is the time necessary <em>at most</em> for slipstreaming each DriverPack.</p><p>I can tell you however that I&#039;m working on something that will make this possible, but more than just this... [/end sneaky mode]</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Wim Leers]]></name>
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			<updated>2006-09-07T18:16:07Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: [NOT APPROVED] DriverPacks Updates Patches...]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Hm, personally, I don&#039;t see the big advantage in this.</p><p>Also, take note that I HATE when games (taking them as an example since they happen to have large patches most of the time) only offer incremental updates/patches.<br />I like to DL the ver. 1.0-current all-in-one update so I can delete the old one and won&#039;t have to apply several patches in case of reinstall to get to current state.</p><p>The driver updates aren&#039;t that big if you are on broadband (granted, it&#039;s quite a pain on modem but I don&#039;t think you&#039;d be bothering with the whole UWXPCD then (creating one on your machine, that is, obviuously you&#039;d even more like to USE it as it means you have to DL less on the once installed OS).</p><p>Having only the latest FULL version up on the server (or at least lined to), is my understanding of KISS.<br />You download the package and you can be sure it&#039;s up-to-date.<br />Nothing worse than having a DL page with several versions that all need to be applied in a certain order (IL2, can you hear me?!).</p><p>What I would like is either have the BASE auto-DL the newer packages once detected (much like it does with the BASE file itself) or at least provide you with a clickable link to the file/the DL website.<br />That would be most welcome because as of now it only informs me of a new version - the same can be achieved by visiting this Forum, something I do more often than opening BASE <img src="http://forum.driverpacks.net/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p><p>Using incremental updates, you&#039;d have to integrate them into the larger DriverPacks somehow, unless you want to split those up (say one pack for each device).<br />That, however, would be most unpractical, as that would mean hundreds, if not thousands of packs - hard to keep track of IMO.<br />Integrating them into the larger packs means you have to uncompress that pack, replace/update the respective files and repack it.<br />That takes quite some time, as you&#039;d have to use 7-Zip high compression methods to achieve small filesize, and the requires CPU power and not to forget lots of RAM.</p><p>For me, it takes less time to DL a full new pack than uncompressing and recompressing would.<br />This is only a solution for a fast, powerful PC with a slow internet connection.</p><p>So, unless you want to save Bâshrat the Sneaky some bandwidth I fail to see the real advantage of an incremental update approach.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Helmi]]></name>
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			<updated>2006-09-07T12:38:40Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: [NOT APPROVED] DriverPacks Updates Patches...]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Hi RogueSpear</p><p>you like the KIS principle too, eh?</p><p>I should have said, I think it won&#039;t be done (rather than it won&#039;t be simple)</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Jaak]]></name>
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			<updated>2006-09-06T23:57:23Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: [NOT APPROVED] DriverPacks Updates Patches...]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;ve been involved with source creation for quite some time now and I can tell you both from personal experience and from reading other&#039;s stories in various forums that updating your source image in any way other than the simplest of updates is generally not a good idea.&nbsp; There are enough tools out there now to make the entire process not much more than a couple clicks.</p><p>Something else to consider with this - you would have to keep track of updates as they relate to several prior versions.&nbsp; Personally I would love it if all the tools out there did not support this constant going over the same source again and again.&nbsp; It would probably eliminate about 75% of the threads that have a subject line like &quot;Help!&quot;</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[RogueSpear]]></name>
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			<updated>2006-09-06T23:48:12Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: [NOT APPROVED] DriverPacks Updates Patches...]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>thinking aloud</p><p>2klik base, have it run update before setting options.<br />result, update check sees what&#039;s needed.<br />user says NO.<br />goes to options<br />runs with older packs it knows it was good for.</p><br /><p>2klik base, updates are allowed by user<br />no new base module, just finisher and increments.<br />gets new basexxx (mandatory) saves to user defined download folder<br />gets finisher for the session into working folder(mandatory)<br />gets increments into working folder (mantatory)<br />runs scripts for update=unzip + unzip /delete/adds and rezips, incremental addonpack gets deleted.<br />(unzip + unzip +rezip = so many seconds of time)<br />set options.<br />runs with updated packs.</p><p>updated packs tell old base it has to be updated if old base is run 8-) (paradox..)</p><p>your old copies of base and the old packs are still where you had them before you copied them to working folder.<br />new basexxx saved someplace by mandatory download.</p><p>I think it won&#039;t be simple.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Jaak]]></name>
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			<updated>2006-09-06T23:44:17Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: [NOT APPROVED] DriverPacks Updates Patches...]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Hi Maxximum et Khan</p><p>probably a h*ll to code. I think filtering drivers is not easy.</p><p>suppose DPsBase is run, and its update check finds a newly refreshed or newly added part in a pack what requires a few new exceptions entries for the filter in DriverPacks-Finisher.<br />If the finisher is not updated simultime, bad joss.</p><p>suppose further that a fix or update requires a newer base... <br />&#039;edit: (if finisher has to be updated, base would have to be, for it is in its sfx.)</p><p>update, and start itselt fresh? Then get the newer increments?<br />edit: then you&#039;d have to make that mandatory?</p><p>I am not a coder, but think it would not be as easy as it sounds. </p><p>OTOH, it might be really simple. I knoweth naught about coding</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Jaak]]></name>
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			<updated>2006-09-06T23:02:10Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: [NOT APPROVED] DriverPacks Updates Patches...]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I think yes. Quite a good idea.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[maxximum]]></name>
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			<updated>2006-09-06T21:28:49Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: [NOT APPROVED] DriverPacks Updates Patches...]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Hi Khan</p><p>you mean.. like in incremental?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Jaak]]></name>
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			<updated>2006-09-06T21:25:53Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[[NOT APPROVED] DriverPacks Updates Patches...]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I don&#039;t know if this is the right place,I have a Suggestion for Driver Packs...</p><p>I have seen that Most of the Driver Packs usually replaces when they reached to an updates one....I think there is no need to Provide a whole Update Package every time until that is not become a huge update,Instead of doing this you may Provide Update Patches for them...Users always Irritate when they Made thier UXPCD and then the New Drivers Pack version Releases...<br />I know It is quite a typicall job...But this is a better way for all of us...<br />DBase may Have an Update Patch Option which will Prompt the User to get those small Updates...</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[khan]]></name>
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			<updated>2006-09-06T20:46:25Z</updated>
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