DriverPacks.net Forum - SimpleCDN unresponsive: downloads may be compromised [UPDATE]

Re: SimpleCDN unresponsive: downloads may be compromised [UPDATE]

null@example.com (directory7) — Wed, 27 Apr 2011 08:59:34 +0000

TERABYTES per week sounds like a job for Super Torrents.....

That amount of data transfer is remarkable, if not incredible. I had no idea of the volume. WOW!

Can we agree that collective, distributed bandwidth beats paying for thousands of duplicate streams from a for-pay content distributor?

DriverPacks could be their OWN cdn. Maybe even do it for OTHER projects. (Hey, I'm just throwing stuff out here.)

Re: SimpleCDN unresponsive: downloads may be compromised [UPDATE]

null@example.com (directory7) — Wed, 27 Apr 2011 08:56:16 +0000

As a longtime user, I am IN on the donation part. You tell me how much ('cuz I know y'all are a fair bunch) and I'll send it. It really is time to monetize this (not so) little venture. It's field tested and battle proven. Now all we need is the fiscal support to take it to the next level.

Re: SimpleCDN unresponsive: downloads may be compromised [UPDATE]

null@example.com (directory7) — Wed, 27 Apr 2011 08:55:22 +0000

Torrenting is a wonderful distributed technology, but the BASE would need changing in a very significant way. Not that Jeff isn't up to it, and as it's been said, the DP userbase IS a very technical bunch. You have all the talent you need just waiting to be called upon. My own thirty-five years have taught me many things, and I stand ready to do whatever I can to help y'all see this through.

Re: SimpleCDN unresponsive: downloads may be compromised [UPDATE]

null@example.com (torresdylan48) — Sun, 03 Apr 2011 01:25:15 +0000

hello,im new member in this forum.

Re: SimpleCDN unresponsive: downloads may be compromised [UPDATE]

null@example.com (michaelalonzo93) — Thu, 24 Feb 2011 10:45:06 +0000

Possibly the paid service would have the username/password of the DriverPacks forums linked in the app to prevent pirating. IE, the app would be a free download for all but to enable the 'Pro' features you'd have to use your username/password from the forums and that would be verified online (with IP comparison to prevent duplication from different IP domains.

Spam link removed....

Re: SimpleCDN unresponsive: downloads may be compromised [UPDATE]

null@example.com (BadPointer) — Mon, 11 Oct 2010 07:32:18 +0000

Regrading the speed. I don't download driverpacks that often so I don't know how the speed was changing over time. I remember downloading at my full speed of 6 Mbs about half a year ago. I tried downloading yesterday and the speed was about 3 Mbs. I'm going to measure it again when I get home.

Update:
The average download speed is 4 Mbs out of my max 6 Mbs.

Re: SimpleCDN unresponsive: downloads may be compromised [UPDATE]

null@example.com (OverFlow) — Sun, 10 Oct 2010 23:31:04 +0000

The speed of the CDN was always impressive in our experience? I am aware of no reports of slow downloads. I am aware of issues with incomplete downloads. If you were having slow downloads I wish that you had reported it. I have never been able to achieve the speed on any torrent (ever) that I get from the CDN.

In our (the teams) experience the CDN would max out any download bandwith. Those of us with the the high bandwidth connections have always gotten our full 30 Mbs download speeds. I don't know what you think is impressive but to me maxing out a 30 Megabit a second connection is pretty impressive. Over 4 megabytes a second is faster than a cheap IDE HDD. I'm sorry that I can't agree with you, but in my book that is impressive. Again, if you were having speed issues I wish that you had reported it. Perhaps our old provider had no server clusters in your country OR perhaps it was an issue that could have been addressed... if it were reported.

I think the idea would be that BASE would authenticate for the user. The username and password would only have to be entered once into the GUI. I would probably encrypt the login info on the local machine in such a way that it would always be available / cached on that machine. It would also be simple enough to have a cached login for the site downloads too, since that feature already exists for the main team members.

The 3rd party DriverPack will be available from the GUI in the future... However it is not likely that it will ever be a feature of DriverPacks BASE, which was not designed in such a way as to easily allow new main packs to be added. It will VERY likely be a feature of the new app we will develop for NT6 platforms.

Re: SimpleCDN unresponsive: downloads may be compromised [UPDATE]

null@example.com (BadPointer) — Sun, 10 Oct 2010 20:36:00 +0000

I don't think you have to worry too much about cheating as it might not be so widespread because torrents are faster and make it easier to choose driverpacks for download.

Besides, the speed of CDN isn't really impressive and DriverPacks BASE updates only 10 XP driverpacks. Users have to download other driverpacks from the website one by one which isn't very convenient. If you're going to require users to enter login/pass for every driverpack, it will be even less convenient. Ideally, DriverPacks BASE should be able update all driverpacks.

I agree that you should charge for the access to CDN.

Re: SimpleCDN unresponsive: downloads may be compromised [UPDATE]

null@example.com (OverFlow) — Sun, 10 Oct 2010 20:04:04 +0000

I agree... however it would need to be a bit more adaptive than that... most people do not have a static IP. So the IP would have to be reverse DNS lookup to verify ISP and Region. I'm sure Wim could put a server side module in place to prevent cheating. It would be a simple matter to bust an account holder who was downloading from the USA and Russia within the same hour and cancel their login / account .

Re: SimpleCDN unresponsive: downloads may be compromised [UPDATE]

null@example.com (mr_smartepants) — Sun, 10 Oct 2010 18:30:33 +0000

Re: SimpleCDN unresponsive: downloads may be compromised [UPDATE]

null@example.com (OverFlow) — Sun, 10 Oct 2010 18:16:55 +0000

This is all good stuff... The main idea that keeps repeating is apparently tiered service.

Let's keep the ideas flowing

Free Torrents and paid CDN seems like a choice that would be agreeable to all.

Torrents would be a manual process requiring a third party app... that would certainly encourage people to pay a nuisance fee to get the downloads directly and automatically from DriverPacks BASE. Simple and effective, and still allows our app to be free to anyone.

Further the packs can be automatically verified with MD5 hash checks against the server for all packs found in the DriverPacks BASE folder. This would prevent any issues of corruption from the Torrented downloads. Seems easy to do and effective for both paid and non paid users.

Re: SimpleCDN unresponsive: downloads may be compromised [UPDATE]

null@example.com (markstrelecki) — Sun, 10 Oct 2010 05:48:21 +0000

If those bandwidth numbers are accurate (and I'm certain they are), then torrenting technology becomes not just an option, but an eventuality.

And MUCH sooner, rather than later, it would seem.

TERABYTES per week sounds like a job for Super Torrents.....

That amount of data transfer is remarkable, if not incredible. I had no idea of the volume. WOW!

Can we agree that collective, distributed bandwidth beats paying for thousands of duplicate streams from a for-pay content distributor?

DriverPacks could be their OWN cdn. Maybe even do it for OTHER projects. (Hey, I'm just throwing stuff out here.)

Torrents are another field tested, battle proven technology and would be a HUGE RELIEF for this project. They have the power to completely blunt the need for paying a cdn to perform mindless repetitions (downloads) at no small cost, apparently. (Bless Wim and the contributors for getting us all this far.)

Contributions could then be accepted in currency as well as peer and seeding bandwidth, and we users have a LOT of that, don't we?

I'll bet the contributors to this forum ALONE could create all the seeding bandwidth you'd need to do this job.

Well, that's just my opinion, and I could be wrong.....

MARK STRELECKI
Atlanta, GA.

Re: SimpleCDN unresponsive: downloads may be compromised [UPDATE]

null@example.com (mr_smartepants) — Sat, 09 Oct 2010 20:16:39 +0000

Our current file hosting situation cannot continue as-is.
In the past few days we had 590,000 web page hits, 255 GB of download traffic on Oct 7, 305 GB of download traffic on Oct 8, 154 GB of download traffic so far today. Our peak was on release-day...over 500 GB of download traffic in one day (half a TERABYTE). That amount of traffic is not sustainable without significant costs.
The new CDN server is getting hammered. Everyone needs to think long and hard about which side of the fence they sit on. All I can say is to be prepared for tiered service. I think that it's the only way DriverPacks will survive into the future. Our donation bucket is not overflowing and Wim's pockets are not bottomless!

Re: SimpleCDN unresponsive: downloads may be compromised [UPDATE]

null@example.com (BigBrit) — Sat, 09 Oct 2010 20:16:24 +0000

mr_smartepants wrote:

We are still devising a plan, but it's possible that we may move to a split distribution where the torrents would be free, but the CDN would be available to paid users. This would help subsidize our costs and give users a tiered service. It's just an idea.

What do you propose as the paid CDN price range ???

My checkbook is ready.

Stu

Re: SimpleCDN unresponsive: downloads may be compromised [UPDATE]

null@example.com (brunetu) — Sat, 09 Oct 2010 19:17:12 +0000

Great news!

mr_smartepants wrote:

We are still devising a plan, but it's possible that we may move to a split distribution where the torrents would be free, but the CDN would be available to paid users. This would help subsidize our costs and give users a tiered service. It's just an idea.

Good idea!

Thank you!