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			<title><![CDATA[Re: SAD-disc does not work completely...]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>When I have time, I&#039;ll make a picture to show what I meant, bit busy with work this week so could take a few days <img src="http://forum.driverpacks.net/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" /></p><p>I&#039;m guessing it&#039;s because Windows has not been started, maybe that&#039;s what made the difference to get this working.</p><p><img src="http://forum.driverpacks.net/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 18 May 2010 19:12:10 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>I am not sure why the window would be black.... strange</p><p>As you can see windows setup works much better than dpinst... again I am not sure why...</p><p>I just know that it does.</p><p>Glad all is well for you now!</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 15 May 2010 13:21:19 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: SAD-disc does not work completely...]]></title>
			<link>http://forum.driverpacks.net/viewtopic.php?pid=38224#p38224</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Update:<br /><span class="postimg"><img src="http://www.ravenslair.nl/plaatjes/sad-disc/xp-with-driverpacks.jpg" alt="http://www.ravenslair.nl/plaatjes/sad-disc/xp-with-driverpacks.jpg" /></span><br />This is what I see now after the install with the driverpacks integrated finishes (and the computer has done a reboot which I entered in my batchfile which installs NOD32 AV, JRE and something else I doubt isn&#039;t allowed mentioning here.... But that &quot;thing&quot; keeps some potential trouble away....).</p><p>Anyway..... it works <img src="http://forum.driverpacks.net/img/smilies/big_smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="big_smile" />. Added all the packs to my almost (as you can see) up-to-date XP dvd. No unknown hardware, sound works, both NIC&#039;s too, and the GPU is recognized as well, yay!</p><p>I just noticed one weird thing. When I first created it, I noticed (a bit late) that the command for the DriverPacks Finisher came second in the winnt.sif at the guirunonce part. My batchfile was run first, but since it had a reboot command in it, XP wasn&#039;t able to boot completely because the DriverPacks Finisher took some time. Anyway, I switched the command for the DriverPacks Finisher and my batchfile, causing the DriverPacks Finisher to start first (which I intended) but then I did not see the actual DriverPacks Finisher window. I did see a black rectangle (same size as DriverPacks Finisher window) where the window was supposed to be, but it did it&#039;s job okay.</p><p>Anyone know why?</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 15 May 2010 12:49:50 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: SAD-disc does not work completely...]]></title>
			<link>http://forum.driverpacks.net/viewtopic.php?pid=38187#p38187</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Haven&#039;t gotten around to try integrating the drivers directly in the Windows installation disc, hope to get to that this weekend. Let you guys know how that turns out.</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>Helmi wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Just a long shot, but as it happened to me once...<br />Defective RAM may result in corrupted drivers being extracted/copied from the source, hence driver install will fail.</p><p>As for the RWs:<br />I know it might not be the most clever idea to just introduce another possible source of error when you are troubleshooting but if you&#039;ve got a spare USB stick with about 2 GB of capacity, <a href="http://www.msfn.org/board/topic/120444-how-to-install-windows-from-usb-winsetupfromusb-with-gui/">http://www.msfn.org/board/topic/120444- … -with-gui/</a> might actually help you save on the RW.<br />Been using it quite successfully myself for a while and I found it to be more reliable than an RW, as DVD readers may dislike them.<br />OTOH, it requires the BIOS to boot from USB, but most of those post 2000 offer such an option.</p></blockquote></div><p>Besides that I always check RAM before I put it into use (like I did with this particular computer), it&#039;s the same drivers with all attempts that don&#039;t work, plus that the OS on the main HDD works perfectly fine. Doesn&#039;t really sound like RAM problems to me....</p><p>Another possible source of error? Hmm, every time I burn a cd/dvd I let Nero do a verification, to rule out that cause...<br />Installing from USB might be an idea, I&#039;ll keep that in mind <img src="http://forum.driverpacks.net/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" /> , thanks for the tip!</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>OverFlow wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Hiya Helmi! Nice to see you <img src="http://forum.driverpacks.net/img/smilies/big_smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="big_smile" />.</p><p>The tutorial is quite old but the features, options and step by step instructions have not changed since then. (for a Disc install). SAD and BartPE have been added and the instructions for those are not relevant to slipstreaming the drivers to a disc <img src="http://forum.driverpacks.net/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" />. So while the screen shots show an old version i think you will find that the screen shots still match the selections on each of the pages. The feature to download the DriverPacks directly from the site was also added but I don&#039;t think that that requires explanation <img src="http://forum.driverpacks.net/img/smilies/tongue.png" width="15" height="15" alt="tongue" />. YES it is the same as in version 8 of BASE LOL.</p><p>I don&#039;t know why DPINST.EXE does not work as well as windows SETUP.EXE... You will have to ask MicroSoft who wrote both of those executable programs. (SAD is simply a wrapper for the MS supplied file DPINST.EXE.)</p><p>Wow... Yeah that is a wild error</p></blockquote></div><p>Hmm, okay.</p><p>Some error huh <img src="http://forum.driverpacks.net/img/smilies/tongue.png" width="15" height="15" alt="tongue" />, no idea what that&#039;s about. You would think someone would have noticed it by know....</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 13 May 2010 20:03:25 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Hey, Jeff!<br />You know I take great pleasure in stopping by whenever time allows for it <img src="http://forum.driverpacks.net/img/smilies/big_smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="big_smile" /></p><p>I really need to loiter around in Skype way more often... <img src="http://forum.driverpacks.net/img/smilies/hmm.png" width="15" height="15" alt="hmm" /><br />Missing all the great discussions.</p><p>At least I got your mail about the radio show (which, naturally, I still need to listen to...).</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 10 May 2010 14:38:41 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Hiya Helmi! Nice to see you <img src="http://forum.driverpacks.net/img/smilies/big_smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="big_smile" />.</p><p>The tutorial is quite old but the features, options and step by step instructions have not changed since then. (for a Disc install). SAD and BartPE have been added and the instructions for those are not relevant to slipstreaming the drivers to a disc <img src="http://forum.driverpacks.net/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" />. So while the screen shots show an old version i think you will find that the screen shots still match the selections on each of the pages. The feature to download the DriverPacks directly from the site was also added but I don&#039;t think that that requires explanation <img src="http://forum.driverpacks.net/img/smilies/tongue.png" width="15" height="15" alt="tongue" />. YES it is the same as in version 8 of BASE LOL.</p><p>I don&#039;t know why DPINST.EXE does not work as well as windows SETUP.EXE... You will have to ask MicroSoft who wrote both of those executable programs. (SAD is simply a wrapper for the MS supplied file DPINST.EXE.)</p><p>Wow... Yeah that is a wild error</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 10 May 2010 03:21:12 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>http://forum.driverpacks.net/viewtopic.php?pid=38128#p38128</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Just a long shot, but as it happened to me once...<br />Defective RAM may result in corrupted drivers being extracted/copied from the source, hence driver install will fail.</p><p>As for the RWs:<br />I know it might not be the most clever idea to just introduce another possible source of error when you are troubleshooting but if you&#039;ve got a spare USB stick with about 2 GB of capacity, <a href="http://www.msfn.org/board/topic/120444-how-to-install-windows-from-usb-winsetupfromusb-with-gui/">http://www.msfn.org/board/topic/120444- … -with-gui/</a> might actually help you save on the RW.<br />Been using it quite successfully myself for a while and I found it to be more reliable than an RW, as DVD readers may dislike them.<br />OTOH, it requires the BIOS to boot from USB, but most of those post 2000 offer such an option.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 09 May 2010 20:26:59 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>MD5&#039;s match, WinRAR (which I prefer for working with archives) tested the archives and did not report any errors.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 09 May 2010 19:31:43 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>http://forum.driverpacks.net/viewtopic.php?pid=38125#p38125</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Try scanning your DriverPacks for errors using either 7-Zips archive check option or comparing MD5 checksums on the DL page with the files on your local system.<br />Maybe something got corrupted...</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (Helmi)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sun, 09 May 2010 17:49:04 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: SAD-disc does not work completely...]]></title>
			<link>http://forum.driverpacks.net/viewtopic.php?pid=38124#p38124</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Hmm, &#039;kay.<br />This howto? <a href="http://users.telenet.be/jtdoom/basetute/Eng_tut6b.htm">http://users.telenet.be/jtdoom/basetute/Eng_tut6b.htm</a> isn&#039;t that one a bit outdated? (or is it the same in v8 of BASE).</p><p>Just tried SAD M2, the 2nd (the onboard one) NIC is now recognized and installed too, soundcard as well but that one does not work. Windows claims there is no audio device present :S. The GPU is not recognized.</p><p>Out of curiosity, what causes SAD to not work (completely) on a &quot;vanilla&quot; system? The dev and ven ID&#039;s of unknown devices are available, so it&#039;s not about recognition of unknown hardware I think. Or is it because what you mentioned in post &quot;2010-05-04 03:09:15&quot;, the (absence of) reboots.<br />If it&#039;s just that, can&#039;t the SAD-installer do an automatic reboot after installing chipset-drivers and continue? (Or is this to complicated to implement, not a clue if that&#039;s the case.)</p><p>O well, Disc method it is, now if I could just find a store which sells 1 DVD+RW. It&#039;s always 5 or 10-packs, I only need one <img src="http://forum.driverpacks.net/img/smilies/tongue.png" width="15" height="15" alt="tongue" />.</p><p>edit: regarding the soundcard, this is one h*ll (huh? I can&#039;t say h-e-l-l?) of a weird error:<br /><span class="postimg"><img src="http://www.ravenslair.nl/plaatjes/sad-disc/sadm2.jpg" alt="http://www.ravenslair.nl/plaatjes/sad-disc/sadm2.jpg" /></span></p><p>Translation: Soundrecorder can not record or play because there is no sounddevice installed. Click on Printers and other hardware in the configuration screen and then on add printer to install a sounddevice.</p><p>Like huh/WTF?</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 09 May 2010 17:01:34 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>http://forum.driverpacks.net/viewtopic.php?pid=38123#p38123</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>You should just slipstream all the DriverPacks using &#039;Disc&#039; method (select M2) per the tutorial. </p><p>That will absolutely work, and is the way DriverPacks is intended to be used for OS installation.<br />there is better than a 99.9% chance of success if you use DriverPacks the way it is outlined in the tutorial <img src="http://forum.driverpacks.net/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" />.</p><p>SAD is intended to update drivers on a <strong>running</strong> system</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 09 May 2010 14:51:50 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>http://forum.driverpacks.net/viewtopic.php?pid=38119#p38119</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Hmm.... I thought it looked like they where already uncabbed, since it needed a little over 1GB of space on a dvd and there where over 10,000 of files. But after trying the M1 SAD disc with just CPU and unpacking everything after that, it was about 2.4GB :S</p><p>Anyway, that method had the exact same result (and the same missing file errors) that I mentioned in my 1st post.</p><p>Gonna try M2 later today I think.<br />If that also does not work, I think I&#039;m just gonna fully integrate the LAN, WLAN and (for the text-based setup) massstorage drivers (for AHCI-mode) in my XP disc, see if that helps. And download the remaining needed drivers manually after that.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 09 May 2010 09:43:36 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>http://forum.driverpacks.net/viewtopic.php?pid=38111#p38111</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Since you used M1 the drivers were cabbed by BASE. So no you did not but it was done. <br />When extracted the files will be WELL in excess of 1GB <img src="http://forum.driverpacks.net/img/smilies/tongue.png" width="15" height="15" alt="tongue" />.</p><p>Why is it there? We did not see any reason to delete it <img src="http://forum.driverpacks.net/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" />.</p><p>SAD is the alternative... see the tutorial (linked in my signature) for &quot;normal&quot; usage. [Slipstreamed useing M2]</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 09 May 2010 06:56:49 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>http://forum.driverpacks.net/viewtopic.php?pid=38097#p38097</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>M1 is old and abandoned? Then why is it still in BASE?</p><p>Hmm, I wanted to use it for an initial drivers installation.... So if a SAD-disc is not designed for that, are there alternatives that are? (If I can&#039;t get this to work completely.)</p><p>I&#039;ll try M2 later, and just making a cpu SAD-disc + extracting everything after that too, see if one of those makes a difference.</p><p>Uhm, extracting instead of cabbing? All files (a little over 1GB and about 10,493 total) where already extracted on the SAD disc (I did not do that), no cabbing was done.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 08 May 2010 08:36:32 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>http://forum.driverpacks.net/viewtopic.php?pid=38026#p38026</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>M1 is a very old section of DriverPacks BASE... it was all but abandoned several years ago <img src="http://forum.driverpacks.net/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" /></p><p>try creating a M1 SAD source with only CPU pack...<br />then extract all the drivers to the properly created folder structure.<br />That may work</p><p>Dpinst.exe does not do as good of a job as windows setup the prefered method of using DriverPacks is slipstreamed with M2 for best results.</p><p>if you have no drivers installed it may take several passes with reboots in between to be successful. IE if chipset is not installed it must first be installed then the machine rebooted and the remaining drivers that are dependent on chipset may be installed... Some drivers will not install at all with DPinst.exe...</p><p>the main usefulness of SAD is to update drivers on a fully running machine... not to do an initial installation of them. This may work some of the time. </p><p>Again to get the best results use BASE to slipstream the DriverPacks with M2. <img src="http://forum.driverpacks.net/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" /></p><p>More... DPInst.exe is a Microsoft provided Redistributable file and as such we can not &quot;fix&quot; it if it does not work properly <img src="http://forum.driverpacks.net/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" /> <img src="http://forum.driverpacks.net/img/smilies/tongue.png" width="15" height="15" alt="tongue" />. </p><p>Even more... some of these drivers may have failed do to the M1 Cabbing that is done... By extracting them rather than Cabbing them with M1 you can prove if it is a cabbing issue or a DPINST issue. </p><p>Thanks for your feedback&nbsp; and welcome to DriverPacks!</p><p>Jeff</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 04 May 2010 01:09:15 +0000</pubDate>
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