BTW... we both know that muiz would allready have the pro version if it was available.   Muiz is a strong contributer to the DP project. :thumbsup:

That's cause i have  lots of respect for bashrat , he is not even that old , and does this all for free in his spare time.
Besides that he still  goes to school with  all the exams etc.

An autoupdate feature would be a good idea, but it could also cause problems for those that modify the DriverPacks themselves.  In my opinion an autonotify feature with the option to download, an imbedded Terms of Use statement, and Donate button (all in one pane) would be far more attractive.

BTW... we both know that muiz would allready have the pro version if it was available.   Muiz is a strong contributer to the DP project. :thumbsup:

They couldn't leak it.  My thought is when someone donates Bashrat gives the "donators" access on the forum.  Only Donators will have access to download updates via the DP Base.   If their login info was leaked... then Bashrat could demote their access.

So to use the pro features one would have to be logged in to the forum.

It is simular to an idea I plan for a later version of the integrator and powerpacker.

First see ...then believe

What people like yourself do not understand is the coding is a lot harder than you imagine.  People like Bashrat (and myself) have spent countless hors, days, weeks... on developing tools to make things easier for people like you.  If you don't mind doing it manually... then suit yourself.  No one is forcing you to do anything.  You act like I had reccomended Bashrat to stop providing the DriverPacks for free.  I just mentioned a pro version for those who contribute.  It is the least that Bashrat deserves. 

I myself have worked so hard on my programs that I have actually got a pinched nerve in my neck from sitting at the computer so much coding.  Then you want to down the idea of Bashrat offering a Pro version for those that contribute?  The option to donate has allways been there.  Why shouldn't Bashrat offer something as a thanks to those that do?? 

You're right people can manually do everything that the DriverPacks do.  But the DriverPacks simplify that task.  You can spend hours to manually do it... or use the DP Base to do it in less than a min.  Hmmmm... wonder what most would do?  Dude... you have no idea what you are talking about.  The only people who would take your side in an argument like this would be simple minded and have no idea the amount of work it takes to create a project like this. I can go on and on about the reasons you're post is meaningless... but my coding finger is more important.

BTW... it is sad if this thread turns into an argument about wether or not Bashrat should make something like what I had mentioned.  It is something for Bashrat to make to say thanks to those who support him.

Believe me, I'm all about open source and freeware, but at some point you wouldn't mind at least recouping the cost of hosting.  Anything extra probably goes toward a faster unit in order to be more productive in development (faster test installs in VMware, etc).

I just don't see any reason to be bringing the issue up at all.  Bashrat pretty much single handedly brought the DriverPacks to life.  Even more, he made it possible to easily assemble your own DriverPacks and use his tools to integrate them without needing to know hardly anything.  It's an insanely time consuming project considering how fluid the hardware market is and the ever changing drivers.

If you are asking what I contribute, no it is not money. It is my precious time in trying to track bugs...why nothing of Bashrat's recent release works for me. Do I blame him? No. Was I refering to him in my first post on this specific topic? No.
Do I contribute to topic after topic of how this has failed me or how I-am-not-you (inside joke). I blame my motherboard...and maybe nvidia too. I don't know how to code like yourself. I wrote a piece of s&&t (Hey Bash,..this board doesn't support censoring! LMAO) batch that makes renaming easier. I regularly post to the bugtracker.

I need to see you release something w'out bugs. I want you to contribute and be perfect. Then do a funny thing like charge the ppl that helped you out.

PS...I find your contributions priceless (yeah, really). And one of the things I was trying to convey was that the lot of you actually DO do this as a labor of love. So why keep it from the rest by charging...the rest being that use it as  a one time thing.?.?

I'm just wondering how you can sit there and consider the practice that brought us to these forums anyway? I thought we all had a hand in building up these very helpful programs. You CAN'T take drivers made by manufactures and charge ppl for them by the way...

Most of us have had a hand at assisting in debugging and in testing, but when is the last time you contributed any code to the BASE slipstreamer?  My guess would be that "pro" members will have access to a "pro" version of the slipstreamer.  Obviously nobody can charge you to download device drivers developed by myraid of companies.

You should remember that those of us who provide our projects to others but solicit donations really do this as a labor of love.  None of us are so misguided as to believe we are going to get rich from our endeavors.  Anybody who has been around MSFN for while probably knows that I do not suffer fools well, so in conclusion, I'm not too comfortable read this "crap" either.

ppl should remember why they develop these programs in the first place (or are they just wasting their time?). In either case, I don't feel confortable reading this crap on a forum. I'd rather call your customer service department when I buy your product off the shelf.

So to use the pro features one would have to be logged in to the forum.

It is simular to an idea I plan for a later version of the integrator and powerpacker.

.....can you say "Goodbye Computer & All Accesories!"

(man that is a classic)
I loved frying old x286 & x386's with that.