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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Are you frustrated waiting for the DP release?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>they say that patience is a virtue...</p><p>so better wait for the release...</p><p>thanks!</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[n3ilwryt]]></name>
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			<updated>2011-10-18T05:35:45Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Are you frustrated waiting for the DP release?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>yes, a help DP applications is great.</p><p>:-)</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[dale12four]]></name>
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			<updated>2011-04-24T10:48:13Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Are you frustrated waiting for the DP release?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Jhonsons wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>The majority of users here utilize DriverPacks to create UWXP CDs, and a fringe amount for other OSes.</p></blockquote></div><p>While that may be true now, XP has had it&#039;s heyday and it&#039;s use is dwindling.&nbsp; Win7 is rapidly becoming the OS of choice.<br />Geez.&nbsp; Thanks...I guess.&nbsp; Sounds pretty ungrateful for the progress that&#039;s been made so far by so few.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[mr_smartepants]]></name>
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			<updated>2011-04-20T19:46:05Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Are you frustrated waiting for the DP release?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>The majority of users here utilize DriverPacks to create UWXP CDs, and a fringe amount for other OSes. Just speaking freely here; I personally would rather have constantly updated driver packs with the older version of base than the situation as it is now.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Jhonsons]]></name>
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			<updated>2011-04-20T09:42:54Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Are you frustrated waiting for the DP release?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>He used &quot;search&quot;.... </p><p>Thud (sound of me falling out of my chair)</p><p>Well done</p><p>There is some really good info for getting started at MSFN.org... That is where DriverPacks got its start <img src="http://forum.driverpacks.net/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" /></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[OverFlow]]></name>
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			<updated>2009-07-29T14:08:12Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Are you frustrated waiting for the DP release?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>yeah...now i finally begin to have a clue, what is this hard work all about. I am indeed at the beginning of the road - exactly the right words. I thought, why several driver searching programs choose you the wrong driver. They search by HWID´s generally (i think), but if there a more than 1 driver in the database with the same HWID support, then its exactly as you said. IE i got a touchscreen mouse driver for my laptop, but i had a simple Logitech USB mouse. The result - mouse didnt work. How could it..theres no point touching LCD and hope it moves the mouse. LOL. Em..could there be a chance, that the driver program thought my touchpad is a mouse? It was a Iobit Advanced Systemcare component.</p><p>Thank you, Overflow! That answer helped me a lot. Is there a sticky or tutorial about the basics of the driverpacks development or the conflict situations? Maybe it is worth to create such, if it doesnt exist, so everyone with some common sense can understand or even get some clue, what smart guys are talking about. <img src="http://forum.driverpacks.net/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /> I dont mean the driverpacks base tutorial, but...something more general about making the packs. I think, i dont know the right keywords to search google and there may be no good information about it.</p><p>Edit...found sticky for 3rd party packs</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[kaitsevaim]]></name>
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			<updated>2009-07-29T13:05:15Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Are you frustrated waiting for the DP release?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>and now you are at the beginning of the road...</p><p>Yes we must keep the old driver to support older - and add new driver to support newer hardware.<br />The old and the new driver may overlap each other as far as what devices they support (hwids).<br />if the HWID exists in three or four different drivers the wrong driver may be chosen... and then we must force the correct driver to be choosen. This is known as a conflict, and we solve them daily. A driver that works all by itself just fine will very likely fail if grouped with similar drivers that contain overlapping HWID support. IE you have a Nvidia 8600 GT driver and a GigaByte 8600GT driver both in the packs they may share some of the same supported hwids. but the Gigabyte driver may fail if selected by a non Gigabyte Graphics adapter. in which case we get a failure report and must act and test. and repeat... and repeat again... and again</p><p>You can&#039;t just dump a bunch of drivers in a folder and expect it to just work...</p><p>If you could do that we would not bother to be here <img src="http://forum.driverpacks.net/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" /></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[OverFlow]]></name>
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			<updated>2009-07-27T21:07:17Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Are you frustrated waiting for the DP release?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>i understand. So..WHQL is crap and maybe i should nlite the install media, so that drivers will be unsigned and then put the tweak, that unsigned drivers will be installed without prompt. Can i ask...where do you get all the needed hardware to test on? And the knowledge about HWID´s it is ment for...comes from manufacturer? Or is it the HWID Tool? I thought that gives you knowledge about the current machines HWID´s it is run.</p><p>I have the suspicion, that if a manufacturer makes a new driver, then it is especially ment to support the newest piece of hardware. If the older hardware fails, then you have to put the most recent driver into package, that supported the oldest hardware and make another folder for the newer equipment. How does windows setup program know, which driver it should install? Guess both of the drivers are ment for same HWID or not?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[kaitsevaim]]></name>
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			<updated>2009-07-27T19:10:28Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Are you frustrated waiting for the DP release?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Well, WHQL status doesn&#039;t mean what it used to unfortunately.&nbsp; Do you honestly think M$ tests those drivers on every conceivable hardware combination?&nbsp; I don&#039;t! <img src="http://forum.driverpacks.net/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" /><br />Besides, the WHQL status means those drivers were tested &quot;as packaged&quot;.&nbsp; We don&#039;t redistribute those drivers as the manufacturer intended, so we incur additional testing hours.&nbsp; Besides, have you seen some of the nvidia drivers that got WHQL&#039;d?&nbsp; h*ll, M$ even granted WHQL to <strong>BETA</strong> drivers!&nbsp; WTF?</p><p>Sometimes a vendor will release drivers for 4 or 5 HWIDs, but we know they&#039;ll work with about 50 HWIDs, so we need to test the remaining 45 HWIDs to ensure stability.<br />That&#039;s the nature of the beast.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[mr_smartepants]]></name>
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			<updated>2009-07-27T16:16:43Z</updated>
			<id>http://forum.driverpacks.net/viewtopic.php?pid=32773#p32773</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Are you frustrated waiting for the DP release?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I am a total noob, so please dont hit the asker´s mouth. Still, i want to get smarter, wanna learn, if i´m capable of course <img src="http://forum.driverpacks.net/img/smilies/tongue.png" width="15" height="15" alt="tongue" />. I understand something about the inf and sif files from which that driverpacks can be called.</p><p>Em..ok, let me get it straight from wood and painted red. WHAT is this &#039;stability&#039;? As i understand from this topic here...if a new driver version is being release, you have to delete previous &amp; copy the newer version files to the respective folder of the respective driver pack. My questions are...does the new driver have to be tested by WHQL when the manufacturer has already tested it? Do the manufacturers make crap with their drivers or is there something about the way drivers are found by the system or... Yeah, what do i guess here, what do i know about it <img src="http://forum.driverpacks.net/img/smilies/sad.png" width="15" height="15" alt="sad" /></p><p>I may be replying to myself now, but does the new driver if it´s found have to be tested for every single piece of electronic board, it is ment for? There are hundreds of different models maybe, that a single driver would run. Do i understand it correctly?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[kaitsevaim]]></name>
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			<updated>2009-07-27T12:19:04Z</updated>
			<id>http://forum.driverpacks.net/viewtopic.php?pid=32767#p32767</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Are you frustrated waiting for the DP release?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Hey, that&#039;s a great post. As I see there&#039;s no release schedule, which is great in its own respect, too.<br /></p><div class="quotebox"><cite>mr_smartepants wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Stability of driverpacks is our primary goal. There&#039;s no point in having the latest if your system crashes because of it.</p></blockquote></div><p>Good point. Way to go! ;)</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[twipley]]></name>
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			<updated>2008-09-18T15:05:52Z</updated>
			<id>http://forum.driverpacks.net/viewtopic.php?pid=24168#p24168</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Are you frustrated waiting for the DP release?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>This just to clarify for all of you reading this post on the direction the DriverPacks have taken.</p><p>We do not have a release schedule.</p><p>Sometimes we release DriverPacks each month, sometimes several times per month if the situation warrants.&nbsp; Other times we will not release a dp for several months if we cannot make it stable.</p><p>Stability of all the DriverPacks is our primary goal.&nbsp; There&#039;s no point in having the latest &amp; greatest if your system crashes because of it.</p><br /><p>Having said that, we have some new members on the DriverPacks Testing Team, and we are hard at work <em>for your benefit</em> to release DriverPacks as soon as they are ready.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[mr_smartepants]]></name>
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			<updated>2008-09-18T04:35:00Z</updated>
			<id>http://forum.driverpacks.net/viewtopic.php?pid=24153#p24153</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Are you frustrated waiting for the DP release?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>DmitryOlenin wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Can we expect new releases in the near future?</p></blockquote></div><p>I don&#039;t know if all driverpacks will soon be updated, but hey, maybe this can help:</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>mr_smartepants wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>It looks like we won&#039;t be able to go final release [with Graphics A] until at least 8.10</p></blockquote></div>]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[twipley]]></name>
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			<updated>2008-09-17T03:02:24Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Are you frustrated waiting for the DP release?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Just wait.................you will see soon enough.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[muiz]]></name>
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			<updated>2006-12-15T14:15:30Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Are you frustrated waiting for the DP release?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Hey</p><p>I have read here that a lot of work is beeing done on the driverpacks as we speak! <img src="http://forum.driverpacks.net/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p><p>I just want to ask,so I dont miss out on somthing..are ther any driverpacks that are available for DL&#039;ing?<span class="postimg"><img src="http://smilies.sofrayt.com/fsc/praying.gif" alt="http://smilies.sofrayt.com/fsc/praying.gif" /></span></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Floppy]]></name>
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			<updated>2006-12-15T10:30:58Z</updated>
			<id>http://forum.driverpacks.net/viewtopic.php?pid=6560#p6560</id>
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