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Re: Vista DriverPacks Integration ???? (How?)

null@example.com (Wim Leers) — Sun, 01 Mar 2009 00:05:59 +0000

It may be cool to create a screencast as a means of creating a tutorial. A free, good tool to create screencasts is http://www.jingproject.com/.

Re: Vista DriverPacks Integration ???? (How?)

null@example.com (muiz) — Tue, 24 Feb 2009 13:15:13 +0000

Fragbert wrote:

muiz wrote:
I have wim's bigger then 4gb, and no corrupt error.
You must not use your own VISTA TOOLS cdimage ISO builder then, because you cant build an iso with a file over 4GB in it.

If you have read everyting i said, you would have known i use UltraIso to make my iso.
But the guy who made the tool "Jan" is not around for a while, when hes back we will see what we can do about this.

Re: Vista DriverPacks Integration ???? (How?)

null@example.com (Fragbert) — Mon, 23 Feb 2009 19:23:24 +0000

muiz wrote:

I have wim's bigger then 4gb, and no corrupt error.

You must not use your own VISTA TOOLS cdimage ISO builder then, because you cant build an iso with a file over 4GB in it.

Re: Vista DriverPacks Integration ???? (How?)

null@example.com (muiz) — Sun, 22 Feb 2009 22:35:10 +0000

Im glad it works now for you:)

Re: Vista DriverPacks Integration ???? (How?)

null@example.com (mr_smartepants) — Sun, 22 Feb 2009 13:04:30 +0000

I think I'm getting the hang of this. I just built a x86 source with zero problems. I guess we need a better tutorial now.
I use vlite to rebuild the source, then poweriso to copy the files to a prebuilt empty .iso. Flawless.
Using either vlite or Vista-tool to build the .iso takes a ridiculously long time otherwise.

Re: Vista DriverPacks Integration ???? (How?)

null@example.com (muiz) — Sun, 22 Feb 2009 12:12:57 +0000

I have wim's bigger then 4gb, and no corrupt error.

Re: Vista DriverPacks Integration ???? (How?)

null@example.com (Fragbert) — Thu, 19 Feb 2009 21:14:04 +0000

shahed wrote:

Fragbert wrote:
If you are making a image w/ a wim larger than 4GB you will get a corrupt ISO because of the utility VISTA TOOLS uses to build an ISO.
Thank you fragbert. I did mention this above before, vista-tools and vlite does not support wim files larger than 4gb, and reports corrupt wim.

I think it would be a quick and easy fix for Vista Tools to simply call on the native WAIK iso tool to build ISOs, as it does not have the limitation.

Re: Vista DriverPacks Integration ???? (How?)

null@example.com (shahed) — Thu, 19 Feb 2009 21:09:58 +0000

Fragbert wrote:

If you are making a image w/ a wim larger than 4GB you will get a corrupt ISO because of the utility VISTA TOOLS uses to build an ISO.

Thank you fragbert. I did mention this above before, vista-tools and vlite does not support wim files larger than 4gb, and reports corrupt wim.
You can also use legoslash's VUT/Win 7 toolkit, that does the job of creating iso's with install.wim larger than 4gb. (its slighly less time consuming imo)

Good luck, and hopefully things will work out for you this time.

Re: Vista DriverPacks Integration ???? (How?)

null@example.com (mr_smartepants) — Thu, 19 Feb 2009 19:26:12 +0000

Well, vlite seems to build the iso OK most of the time, only when the install.wim isn't corrupted. I've almost got all the updates slipped in. Once I get a stable updated source, I'll start playing with the drivers. It seems a huge pain to have to rebuild the image with vlite everytime though.
I hope Win7 doesn't have these issues.
*Edit
OK. All the utilities failed to create a usable .iso from the oversized source 4.46 GB (4,798,613,014 bytes)
I had to use PowerISO and open my original source .iso, delete it's contents, then drag over the modified source and save. Success.

Re: Vista DriverPacks Integration ???? (How?)

null@example.com (Fragbert) — Thu, 19 Feb 2009 19:01:35 +0000

mr_smartepants wrote:

Well, I'll agree that the Vista-Tool needs a lot of work. Maybe it's a limitation of WAIK since this tool is just a front-end for WAIK. I've tried three integrations of Vista64 and all three times I've had to scrap the source and try over. Vista-tool corrupts my install.wim. And it takes forever!
I can't even get the tool to build an ISO! Just telling people "works for me" doesn't help anyone.
Sorry Muiz/shahed, but I think I'll stick with vlite for the time being. At least it works partially.
Sorry for venting my frustrations, but I've just wasted two days on this that I won't get back.

If you are making a image w/ a wim larger than 4GB you will get a corrupt ISO because of the utility VISTA TOOLS uses to build an ISO. To get around this you can use the ISO utility built in WAIK that allows >4GB file sizes or you can use IMAGEX /split to segment your wim into smaller sizes so the older ISO utility in VISTA TOOLS can build the ISO.

Again, dont blame you for not knowing this, the documentation on this bug is practically non-existent. Only those like us, who's goal is to make a fully updated, unattended Vista DVD will we build a wim that large.

Re: Vista DriverPacks Integration ???? (How?)

null@example.com (mr_smartepants) — Thu, 19 Feb 2009 05:32:42 +0000

Bad news. Corrupted install.wim again.

Luckily I backed up my previous .iso so I'll be starting from that again.
This time I'll integrate the updates in stages (Ultimate extras, MCE, Plus) and test each time. Time consuming, but it needs to be done.

Re: Vista DriverPacks Integration ???? (How?)

null@example.com (Jaak) — Thu, 19 Feb 2009 01:04:18 +0000

I have a suggestion.

There was a day I allowed JakeLD to take over desktop control of a machine so he could show me some tricks and things.

This can serve all of us? Just follow my thinking? For a camtasia or snagit (or whatever you use), let the tutor run a destop in a VM you are recording from the host.

After that, text and insights.
I know it is more complicated than that, but collaborrative efforts on good tuts will take man-hours, and I remember Erik is (amongst other things) good at tuts.

OH, fwiw, the front room machine vista/win7/other tests has been mucho under-utilised for months.
I won't partake in vista tut. (simple reason, test machine runs dutch or betas.)

Re: Vista DriverPacks Integration ???? (How?)

null@example.com (mr_smartepants) — Wed, 18 Feb 2009 21:52:38 +0000

So that I can better understand how driver integration works, can you tell me where the tool deposits the driver folders and what structure must the DriverPacks maintain? What files are edited?

*Edit, One suggestion for Vista-tool. Progress bar.
I don't think it would be too difficult to count the number of hotfixes/updates files, then use that as a total (ie, installing update 21 of 60: 34% complete). That would be better than the zero feedback during integration would it not? With the command prompt hidden or not I still have no idea how long the process is taking.

Re: Vista DriverPacks Integration ???? (How?)

null@example.com (mr_smartepants) — Wed, 18 Feb 2009 20:54:02 +0000

OK, that must have been it, because everything is passing now. I'm even building an ISO (that NEVER worked before).
So, the tutorial should read:
Step 1: Unlock your source from "Read Only".

Re: Vista DriverPacks Integration ???? (How?)

null@example.com (mr_smartepants) — Wed, 18 Feb 2009 19:39:14 +0000

muiz wrote:

Just open it with vlite dont change anyting but tweaks(uac off etc.)
Then rebuild only ultimate.

Hmm. Vlite crashes during the rebuild stage. I only chose a single tweak (must choose something or it won't rebuild). I enabled IE phishing filter.
I'm trying again with fresh source. If it does it again I'll try WAIK export.
*Edit, OK, it passed now. The only thing I did different this time was to right-click on the source folder, select properties, and uncheck the "read only" checkbox. There must have been a locked file in there somewhere.