DriverPacks.net Forum - [SLVD] Graphics C 8.10.2 - Geforce4 MX 440 Problem

Re: [SLVD] Graphics C 8.10.2 - Geforce4 MX 440 Problem

2008-11-07T00:56:14Z

not a new problem

I say don't break signing unless we are forced to...

If PnP works as designed then the proper driver should win out over a similar driver with similar or possably even identical HWID's
Obviously we don't live in that world... so let's shoot for the moon... and then break signing on a as needed basis...
if we are trying to replace a native driver we MUST do it with a signed driver
- or at least that is the result we see reported quite often
- thinking out loud... this may be the cause of certain BSOD @ winpe (the 7B)...
mass storage signing becomes a factor at PE

We should make a note of the reason when we break signing...
although i dont know where the best place to record such info would be...
perhaps in teh deited copy of the INF? - perhaps on the forum? - something else i have not thoujght of???

Re: [SLVD] Graphics C 8.10.2 - Geforce4 MX 440 Problem

2008-11-06T19:46:01Z

OK, so I need feedback now.
Our options are these:
1) All 3 graphics DriverPacks have zero HWID overlap but driversigning is broken.
2) Driversigning is preserved for all 3 DriverPacks but they have significant HWID overlap which may cause conflicts.

Re: [SLVD] Graphics C 8.10.2 - Geforce4 MX 440 Problem

2008-11-06T05:29:38Z

We are glad you reported it,
Reporting makes DriverPacks better for everyone!

This fix will be in our next pack

Have a great day!

Re: [SLVD] Graphics C 8.10.2 - Geforce4 MX 440 Problem

2008-11-05T19:49:08Z

After altering the driverpack to have the signed copy of nv4_disp.inf as suggested by mr_smartepants, the 93.71 driver in the nightly driverpack worked perfectly. I downloaded an archived copy of 7.1.8.9 and tried the same thing, and Windows loaded the driver just fine during the install, but I still couldn't change resolutions, so I'm assuming that was just a flaw between this MX 440 and that particular driver, but I don't know. If I can be of any more assistance please let me know. Thanks for your time guys.

Re: [SLVD] Graphics C 8.10.2 - Geforce4 MX 440 Problem

2008-11-05T17:01:11Z

OverFlow wrote:

What functionality do you give up if the native driver is used?

I can't seem to get the s-video out on the card to work without the nvidia version of the driver...

I'll see what happens when I modify the infs as mr_smartpants suggests.

Re: [SLVD] Graphics C 8.10.2 - Geforce4 MX 440 Problem

2008-11-05T06:08:40Z

Damn, I really didn't think the driver-signing would be that big a deal. The original signed .inf is relabeled nv4_dispinf.bak, just delete the current nv4_disp.inf and relabel the .bak file to nv4_disp.inf to restore signing.

Re: [SLVD] Graphics C 8.10.2 - Geforce4 MX 440 Problem

2008-11-05T01:51:14Z

What functionality do you give up if the native driver is used?

Re: [SLVD] Graphics C 8.10.2 - Geforce4 MX 440 Problem

2008-11-04T22:21:34Z

It looks like it should have been...

; Microsoft Windows
; (c) 1994 - 2001 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
;
; Sample Unattended Setup Answer File
;
; This file contains information about how to automate the installation
; or upgrade of Windows so the Setup program runs without requiring
; user input.  You can find more information in the ref.chm found at
; CD:\support\tools\deploy.cab
;

[Data]
AutoPartition = 0
UnattendedInstall = no
	MsDosInitiated=No

[Unattended]
OemPnPDriversPath = "windows\i386\DRV\scsi;"
	OemPreinstall=Yes
	DriverSigningPolicy=Ignore
	NonDriverSigningPolicy=Ignore


[MassStorageDrivers]
;"Intel(R) 82801GR SATA RAID Controller" = OEM
;[OEMBootFiles]
;iaStor.inf
;iaStor.sys
;iaStor.cat
;Txtsetup.oem


[UserData]
ProductKey = "11111-22222-33333-44444-55555"
;
; Edited by DriverPacks BASE 8.11.02.RC
; http://www.driverpacks.net/
;


[GUIRunOnce]
	command9="%SystemDrive%\DPsFnshr.exe"

Re: [SLVD] Graphics C 8.10.2 - Geforce4 MX 440 Problem

2008-11-04T22:10:20Z

Can you post a {sanitized} copy of your winnt.sif? I'd love to see if driversigning was disabled.

Re: [SLVD] Graphics C 8.10.2 - Geforce4 MX 440 Problem

2008-11-04T21:54:32Z

Alright I just got done performing the same exact install as before but this time using only the nightly that mr_smartpants posted, and the driver also wouldn't load during the standard Windows install. It just doesn't want to eat the unsigned driver when the one native to XP is signed. With this driver I was able to update the driver to the unsigned driver in C:\Windows\DriverPacks\G\N3 folder and change resolutions without a problem though. Is there anything else I can do to help you guys?

Re: [SLVD] Graphics C 8.10.2 - Geforce4 MX 440 Problem

2008-11-04T21:27:42Z

Haha, yeah this graphics card is a pile, but it's an older machine so I don't care. Just to make sure nothing else was interfering this is just my plain XP Pro OEM disk, with nothing added besides DP_Graphics_B_wnt5_x86-32_810.7z and the problem still occurs every time. Just like I said in the first post, if I force the unsigned driver in the C:\Windows\DriverPacks\G\N3 folder it loads fine, but changing the resolution always causes an instant restart. Here's whats in my DPs_BASE.log for this integration. I'll test the nightly that mr_smartpants posted the same way I tested this one and let you know what happens.

2008-11-04 14:21:51 :  DriverPacks BASE 8.11.02.RC initialized.
2008-11-04 14:21:51 :  Host environment: WIN_XP Service Pack 3 on X86 CPU.
2008-11-04 14:21:51 :  Created temporary working directory.
2008-11-04 14:21:51 :  Imported proxy settings from Internet Explorer.
2008-11-04 14:21:51 :  Start scanning for DriverPacks for the wnt5_x86-32 platform.
2008-11-04 14:21:51 :  	Detected DriverPack Chipset 8.08.C!
2008-11-04 14:21:51 :  	Detected DriverPack CPU 8.08!
2008-11-04 14:21:51 :  	Detected DriverPack Graphics A 8.10.2!
2008-11-04 14:21:51 :  	Detected DriverPack Graphics B 8.10!
2008-11-04 14:21:51 :  	Detected DriverPack Graphics C 8.10.1!
2008-11-04 14:21:51 :  	Detected DriverPack LAN 8.09.C!
2008-11-04 14:21:51 :  	Detected DriverPack MassStorage 8.09.D!
2008-11-04 14:21:51 :  	Detected DriverPack Sound A 8.09rc2!
2008-11-04 14:21:51 :  	Detected DriverPack Sound B 8.09.A!
2008-11-04 14:21:51 :  	Detected DriverPack WLAN 8.06!
2008-11-04 14:21:51 :  	Could not detect any 3rd party DriverPacks.
2008-11-04 14:21:51 :  	Finished scanning.
2008-11-04 14:21:51 :  Detected settings file "C:\apps\DriverPacks\DPs_BASE.ini".
2008-11-04 14:21:51 :  Windows XP Professional -  OEM SP3 detected.
2008-11-04 14:21:51 :  [Settings]\DPsMethod not specified: default (2) was set.
2008-11-04 14:21:51 :  [Settings]\finisherMethod not specified: default (GUIRunOnce) was set.
2008-11-04 14:21:51 :  [OptionalSettings]\KTD not specified: default (none) was set.
2008-11-04 14:21:51 :  [OptionalSettings]\QSC not specified: default (yes) was set.
2008-11-04 14:21:51 :  [OptionalSettingsOther]\ATI_cpl not specified: default (None) was set.
2008-11-04 14:21:51 :  [OptionalSettingsOther]\Nvidia_cpl not specified: default (None) was set.
2008-11-04 14:21:51 :  wnt5_x86-32_disc is the selected installation platform .
2008-11-04 14:21:51 :  Imported settings from settings file.
2008-11-04 14:21:51 :  [OptionalSettingsOther]\ATI_cpl not specified: default (None) was set.
2008-11-04 14:21:51 :  [OptionalSettingsOther]\Nvidia_cpl not specified: default (None) was set.
2008-11-04 14:21:51 :   Initialized GUI.
2008-11-04 14:21:51 :   Created a list of all available language files.
2008-11-04 14:21:51 :   Set the last used language, English, as the GUI language.
2008-11-04 14:22:41 :   Changed Windows installation files OR export (depending on the installation platform) location to C:\Documents and Settings\kgonring\Desktop\TEST.
2008-11-04 14:22:41 :   Windows XP Professional -  OEM SP3 detected.
2008-11-04 14:22:41 :   wnt5_x86-32_disc is the selected installation platform .
2008-11-04 14:22:56 :   Changed Windows installation files OR export (depending on the installation platform) location to C:\Documents and Settings\kgonring\Desktop\TEST.
2008-11-04 14:22:56 :   Windows XP Professional -  OEM SP3 detected.
2008-11-04 14:22:56 :   wnt5_x86-32_disc is the selected installation platform .
2008-11-04 14:23:18 :   Saved settings!
2008-11-04 14:23:18 :   Closed GUI.
2008-11-04 14:23:18 :   Selected module: mod_slip_wxp_x86-32_disc_m2.
2008-11-04 14:23:19 :  Removed all attributes from \I386.
2008-11-04 14:23:19 :  \I386\winnt.org was not found, \I386\winnt.sif was not restored.
2008-11-04 14:23:19 :  Neither txtsetup.org or dosnet.org was found. The removal of 
2008-11-04 14:23:19 :  any Service Packs we may have added with Driverpacks was skipped 
2008-11-04 14:23:19 :  Mass Storage Removal was also skipped because no I386\DRIVERPACK_MASSSTORAGE_WNT5_X86-32.INI was found
2008-11-04 14:23:20 :  Verified method 2 references don't exist in txtsetup.sif or dosnet.inf.
2008-11-04 14:23:20 :  Created necessary directory structure for method 2.
2008-11-04 14:23:20 :  Copying files necessary for method 2.
2008-11-04 14:23:21 :  Extracted additional files necessary for method 2.
2008-11-04 14:23:21 :  expanded setup.ex_ to setuporg.exe
2008-11-04 14:23:21 :  SETUP.EX_ Backed-up Successfully
2008-11-04 14:23:21 :  Method 2 setup.ex_ installed
2008-11-04 14:23:21 :  Created \I386\presetup.cmd file.
2008-11-04 14:23:21 :  txtsetup.sif Backed-up Successfully
2008-11-04 14:23:21 :  dosnet.inf Backed-up Successfully
2008-11-04 14:23:21 :  Updated \I386\txtsetup.sif to support method 2.
2008-11-04 14:23:21 :  Updated \I386\dosnet.inf to support method 2.
2008-11-04 14:23:43 :  Copied DriverPack Graphics B to \OEM.
2008-11-04 14:23:43 :  Copied DriverPacks to \OEM.
2008-11-04 14:23:43 :  Will not slipstream patches, Service Pack 3 was detected.
2008-11-04 14:23:43 :  Will not slipstream KB888111 because no Sound DriverPack is being slipstreamed
2008-11-04 14:23:43 :  WINNT.SIF Backed-up Successfully
2008-11-04 14:23:44 :  Updated \I386\winnt.sif to support method 2.
2008-11-04 14:23:44 :  Updated DPsFnshr.ini to enable KTD for all DriverPacks.
2008-11-04 14:23:44 :  Updated \I386\winnt.sif's GUIRunOnce section.
2008-11-04 14:23:44 :  DP_Install_Tool was copied successfully
2008-11-04 14:23:44 :  Slipstream finished in 26 seconds.
2008-11-04 14:23:46 :  Temporary working directory successfully deleted.
- = DriverPacks BASE ini settings used = -
[General]
; preferred language
prefLang	= "English"
; yes/no, enable or disable the wizard-style buttons, if not specified: yes
wizardButtons	= "yes"
; yes/no, enable or disable the GUI, if not specified: yes
GUI		= "yes"


[Settings]
; disc/bartpe/multibootDisc
instPlatform	= "disc"
; trailing backslash is allowed, but not necessary
location	= "C:\Documents and Settings\admin\Desktop\TEST"
; none/all/select, if select, specify them below, if not specified: all
DriverPacks	= "select"
; 1/2, method to install the DriverPacks, if not specified: 2
DPsMethod	= "2"
; GUIRunOnce/RunOnceEx/custom, if not specified: GUIRunOnce
finisherMethod	= "GUIRunOnce"


; this section is optional!
[OptionalSettings]
; none/all/select/paths/patterns, enable or disable Keep The Drivers (KTD) , if not specified: none
KTD		= "all"
; , to specify a custom KTD cache location, if not specified: default (%SystemRoot%\DriverPacks)
KTDlocation	= "%SystemRoot%\DriverPacks"
; yes/no, enable or disable QuickStream Cache (QSC), if not specified: yes
QSC		= "yes"


; you should only add this section if you've set [Settings]\DriverPacks to "select"
[SelectDriverPacks]
DP_Chipset	= "no"
DP_CPU		= "no"
DP_Graphics_A	= "no"
DP_Graphics_B	= "yes"
DP_Graphics_C	= "no"
DP_LAN		= "no"
DP_MassStorage	= "no"
DP_Sound_A	= "no"
DP_Sound_B	= "no"
DP_WLAN		= "no"
DP_MassStorage_textmode = "no"
2008-11-04 14:23:47 :  Create a DPs_Base.log backup @ C:\apps\DriverPacks\LogFiles\DPs_BASE_08-11-04_14-23.log
2008-11-04 14:23:47 :  Program terminated.

Re: [SLVD] Graphics C 8.10.2 - Geforce4 MX 440 Problem

2008-11-04T05:58:51Z

Can you try this DriverPack Graphics C nightly? I moved N3 to DriverPack Graphics C and updated it to 93.71
http://driverpacks.sytes.net/driverpack … 2_811n1.7z

Re: [SLVD] Graphics C 8.10.2 - Geforce4 MX 440 Problem

2008-11-04T01:19:57Z

Dont you have an old AGP video card laying around collecting dust to save this person?

those 440mx were gimped...

lets see your base log ( since the details were a little lite...)

like which CP you chose
Which base version you used
Which pack versions you used
Which method you used (1, 2, SAD)
What OS your installing
What Service pack is the OS
any other updates (RyanM/Seraby/nLite)
Does this happen every time or just once (is it reproduceable)

thanks for the HWID's...

waiting for the DPs_BASE.log...
which will have most of the omitted info listed above
(Please RE-READ Read BEFORE you post! in my signature) TIA

I am sure we can get this working -
but "We need you to help us to help you" as Jaak always says

[SLVD] Graphics C 8.10.2 - Geforce4 MX 440 Problem

2008-11-03T21:58:01Z

I reloaded Windows on this machine that has a Geforce4 MX 440 card, and when I booted up the machine it had the standard
(Microsoft) driver loaded. I use KTD so I updated the driver manually to the driver located at in C:\WINDOWS\DriverPacks\G\N3 The driver wasn't signed but I continued anyway, and when it rebooted I thought everything was fine because the tray icon loaded fine and when I checked device manager the driver version was updated to 7.1.8.9. I tried changing the resolution and the machine just reset instantly. I disabled automatic restart on system failure (then rebooted once) and tried again, but it still instantly reboots the machine.

I downloaded forceware 93.71 from nvidia.com
Driver version in device manager is 6.14.10.9371 and it works fine so I'm not really what the problem is. Below are my hwids, and I hope someone could shed some light on the issue.

I'm sorry if I'm just bad at searching, but is there a reason we can't get to the 9371 driver instead of 7189?

Thanks for everything guys.

=========== 
PCI Devices 
=========== 
PCI\VEN_1033&DEV_0035&SUBSYS_0173107B&REV_41\4&11CD5334&0&08F0: NEC PCI to USB Open Host Controller
PCI\VEN_1033&DEV_0035&SUBSYS_0173107B&REV_41\4&11CD5334&0&09F0: NEC PCI to USB Open Host Controller
PCI\VEN_1033&DEV_00E0&SUBSYS_0173107B&REV_02\4&11CD5334&0&0AF0: NEC PCI to USB Enhanced Host Controller (B1)
PCI\VEN_10B7&DEV_9200&SUBSYS_100010B7&REV_78\4&11CD5334&0&58F0: 3Com EtherLink XL 10/100 PCI For Complete PC Management NIC (3C905C-TX)
PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0171&SUBSYS_87311462&REV_A3\4&36560896&0&0008: NVIDIA GeForce4 MX 440
PCI\VEN_1102&DEV_0004&SUBSYS_00581102&REV_03\4&11CD5334&0&60F0: Creative SB Audigy
PCI\VEN_1102&DEV_4001&SUBSYS_00101102&REV_00\4&11CD5334&0&62F0: OHCI Compliant IEEE 1394 Host Controller
PCI\VEN_14E4&DEV_4212&SUBSYS_000214E4&REV_00\4&11CD5334&0&68F0: BCM V.90 56K Modem
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2440&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_04\3&61AAA01&0&F8 : Intel(R) 82801BA LPC Interface Controller - 2440
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2442&SUBSYS_0173107B&REV_04\3&61AAA01&0&FA : Intel(R) 82801BA/BAM USB Universal Host Controller - 2442
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2443&SUBSYS_0173107B&REV_04\3&61AAA01&0&FB : Intel(R) 82801BA/BAM SMBus Controller - 2443
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2449&SUBSYS_0173107B&REV_03\4&11CD5334&0&40F0: Intel(R) PRO/100 Network Connection
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_244B&SUBSYS_0173107B&REV_04\3&61AAA01&0&F9 : Intel(R) 82801BA Ultra ATA Storage Controller - 244B
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_244E&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_04\3&61AAA01&0&F0 : Intel(R) 82801 PCI Bridge - 244E
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2530&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_04\3&61AAA01&0&00 : Intel(R) 82850 Processor to I/O Controller - 2530
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2532&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_04\3&61AAA01&0&08 : Intel(R) 82850/82860 Processor to AGP Controller - 2532
16 matching device(s) found.
 
=========== 
USB Devices 
=========== 
USB\ROOT_HUB\4&3725B29A&0                                   : USB Root Hub
USB\ROOT_HUB\5&15F1262C&0                                   : USB Root Hub
USB\ROOT_HUB\5&2E8A4DD6&0                                   : USB Root Hub
USB\ROOT_HUB20\5&233AA61&0                                  : USB Root Hub
USB\VID_046D&PID_C03D\7&282620F7&0&2                        : USB Human Interface Device
USB\VID_046D&PID_C312\7&282620F7&0&1                        : USB Human Interface Device
USB\VID_0557&PID_7000\6&46E792B&0&1                         : Generic USB Hub
7 matching device(s) found.
 
============= 
Input Devices 
============= 
HID\VID_046D&PID_C03D\8&1182CBBA&0&0000                     : HID-compliant mouse
HID\VID_046D&PID_C312\8&2E848684&0&0000                     : HID Keyboard Device
2 matching device(s) found.
 
============ 
ACPI Devices 
============ 
ACPI\FIXEDBUTTON\2&DABA3FF&0                                : ACPI Fixed Feature Button
ACPI\GENUINEINTEL_-_X86_FAMILY_15_MODEL_2\_0                : Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.26GHz
ACPI\INT0800\3&61AAA01&0                                    : Intel(R) 82802 Firmware Hub Device
ACPI\PNP0100\4&3A2C8C4B&0                                   : System timer
ACPI\PNP0200\4&3A2C8C4B&0                                   : Direct memory access controller
ACPI\PNP0303\4&3A2C8C4B&0                                   : Standard 101/102-Key or Microsoft Natural PS/2 Keyboard
ACPI\PNP0401\4&3A2C8C4B&0                                   : ECP Printer Port (LPT1)
ACPI\PNP0501\1                                              : Communications Port (COM1)
ACPI\PNP0700\4&3A2C8C4B&0                                   : Standard floppy disk controller
ACPI\PNP0800\4&3A2C8C4B&0                                   : System speaker
ACPI\PNP0A03\2&DABA3FF&0                                    : PCI bus
ACPI\PNP0B00\4&3A2C8C4B&0                                   : System CMOS/real time clock
ACPI\PNP0C01\1                                              : System board
ACPI\PNP0C04\4&3A2C8C4B&0                                   : Numeric data processor
ACPI\PNP0C0C\2&DABA3FF&0                                    : ACPI Power Button
ACPI\PNP0F03\4&3A2C8C4B&0                                   : Microsoft PS/2 Mouse
ACPI_HAL\PNP0C08\0                                          : Microsoft ACPI-Compliant System
ROOT\ACPI_HAL\0000                                          : ACPI Uniprocessor PC