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Re: Graphics DriverPacks finally updated! (Finally...)

null@example.com (etswj4t9_2) — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 02:40:45 +0000

the only problem I had was on a driver install, apparently there was a plug-in missing, so it just took out the rhapsody player and created errors in it, so I removed it -pending something new.. I nnd my music, I see your working on some stuff...be waiting on it...Thanks

Re: Graphics DriverPacks finally updated! (Finally...)

null@example.com (mr_smartepants) — Sat, 13 Dec 2008 19:42:03 +0000

Helmi wrote:

You forgot 4), though, send a silent assassins squad to NV HQ and have them take care of the problem properly...

How about 4a), Nvidia hires me and I fix all this crap once and for all!

Seriously though. I'm moving through all three DriverPacks and weeding out dups where I can on folders that already have driver-signing 'bent' (like mobility.inf or nv4_go.inf).
I'm also adding a few folders to cover gaps in ATI/Nvidia (I'm a glutton for punishment).
As soon as I'm done, I'll upload ALL the graphics DriverPacks and additionals (PhysX/Lang).

Re: Graphics DriverPacks finally updated! (Finally...)

null@example.com (dnoiz) — Sat, 13 Dec 2008 18:34:55 +0000

mr_smartepants wrote:

3) Drop hardware from the supported list.

Especially if you talk about old hardware.
Only thing left, what is old hardware then .

Re: Graphics DriverPacks finally updated! (Finally...)

null@example.com (newsposter) — Sat, 13 Dec 2008 18:29:09 +0000

Ninjas vs. the Green Goblin of NV?

I'd pay a dollar to see that!

Re: Graphics DriverPacks finally updated! (Finally...)

null@example.com (Helmi) — Sat, 13 Dec 2008 17:18:20 +0000

mr_smartepants wrote:

1) Keep driver signing intact, and hope we don't blue-screen at T-34.

Who dares, wins, eh?
We might try. Means, no work now but work when BS occur and are being reported.

2) Break driver signing, but guarantee no blue-screens.

Never got the big deal about signed drivers anway.
Ok, users need to disable the SignedDriversPolicy to not have the signed ones (but possibly older) be preferred over newer, but personally, I see no loss in doing so.
OTOH, means the INFs need to be restructured to drop off duplicates.
This is to be repeated each time a new version is released that splits off some more HW, right?

3) Drop hardware from the supported list.

Not a valid option if we stick to our "all drivers, all HW included" policy.
Moving them off to the legacy pack doesn't fix the problem unless you were to only use that DPG pack (and not have several versions of split driver in there, either).

Personal tendency towards 2) with a "why not give 1) a try first" hint.

You forgot 4), though, send a silent assassins squad to NV HQ and have them take care of the problem properly...

Re: Graphics DriverPacks finally updated! (Finally...)

null@example.com (mr_smartepants) — Sat, 13 Dec 2008 16:29:40 +0000

Well, by my count (and I'm being generous!) Nvidia has 5 'unified' driversets to cover their product line.
Unified my A$$

Re: Graphics DriverPacks finally updated! (Finally...)

null@example.com (newsposter) — Sat, 13 Dec 2008 16:11:42 +0000

As ATi and NV bring out new products, it's only natural that drivers for older products get 'rolled off' into the DP C pack. Maybe set a benchmark of 24-30 months or 5 driver rev levels before things get rolled off.

It's even conceiveable that a D pack might be needed to keep the C pack at a manageable size.

Re: Graphics DriverPacks finally updated! (Finally...)

null@example.com (mr_smartepants) — Sat, 13 Dec 2008 10:29:13 +0000

I'm nearly done with the QA and pruning.
Nvidia has really screwed up our plans because they've splintered their 'unified' drivers.
180.48 is newest/best so far, but only supports a few series (GTX280 down to 8800 series). Currently in \N1\
178.24 seems the most compatible as it supports the most chips (GTX280 all the way down to 6100 series). Not in any DriverPacks, replaced by 180.43
175.16 seems best for some older cards (6x00 series to 5x00 series). Currently in \N3\ in unreleased 812 beta DriverPacks
93.71 is the fall-back driver for older devices. Currently in \N4\ in unreleased 812 beta DriverPacks

My problem? There's duplicate HWIDs all over the place! There's NO way to support ALL the hardware without breaking driver signing for at least one folder.
So our choices are:
1) Keep driver signing intact, and hope we don't blue-screen at T-34.
2) Break driver signing, but guarantee no blue-screens.
3) Drop hardware from the supported list.

What's everyone's thoughts?

Re: Graphics DriverPacks finally updated! (Finally...)

null@example.com (mr_smartepants) — Fri, 12 Dec 2008 20:05:55 +0000

I've got my test DriverPacks built with ATI 8.12 and Nvidia 180.48. I'm running them through my own gauntlet of tests before I upload to the nightly servers.
Be patient...
*Edit
First test complete, ATI 9600 mobility...success!
Second test complete, Nvidia 8800 GTS...success!
Going to sleep. One more test tomorrow, then software QA.
Then upload!

Re: Graphics DriverPacks finally updated! (Finally...)

null@example.com (OverFlow) — Fri, 12 Dec 2008 04:45:28 +0000

Base should be a final by then too !

it does seem like it will be christmas at DriverPacks

Re: Graphics DriverPacks finally updated! (Finally...)

null@example.com (JakeLD) — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 17:17:40 +0000

I'm pretty busy too at work right now, I promise by the end of 2008 Mass and Lan will be release...as a Christmas gift maybe?

Re: Graphics DriverPacks finally updated! (Finally...)

null@example.com (mr_smartepants) — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 05:58:55 +0000

Just so everyone knows, I'm aware of the new 8.12 ATI catalyst release, I just can't do anything about it right now.
I'm swamped at work and I'm finishing up two college classes in the next few days.
Real life just won't stop getting in the way!

Be patient, and I'll be hard at work on the new DriverPacks sometime next week.

Re: Graphics DriverPacks finally updated! (Finally...)

null@example.com (Galapo) — Mon, 08 Dec 2008 05:15:09 +0000

Jaak wrote:

XP SP3 suffered, imho, in that it did not get the full 2008 WIM.

No, but you can now do-it-yourself: http://pantherxp.net/

Regards,
Galapo.

Re: Graphics DriverPacks finally updated! (Finally...)

null@example.com (Jaak) — Thu, 04 Dec 2008 22:49:20 +0000

OTOH, full WIM will NOT install on a lot of older hardware because that is barely sufficcient to run basic XP, and XP will "run" on that, or because they have no good driver.

(server 2008 core can run in 128Mb ram in a VM)

Re: Graphics DriverPacks finally updated! (Finally...)

null@example.com (Jaak) — Thu, 04 Dec 2008 22:44:53 +0000

Erik, had I used KTD, or the equivalent DriverPacks with DPinst (I call that M3) with a dpg, I bet that GV66128 HWID woud have no conflict with M$.

This is, In my opinion, what the M$ senior I will call "arves" mentioned as issues they have with nV.
MSFT built in (aka native) evolve by two timelines.
XP SP3 had a few changes to SP2 in HWID.
Vista SP2 and server 2008 hardware -live metal setup- are far superiour to XP.

XP SP3 suffered, imho, in that it did not get the full 2008 WIM.