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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Removal of languages]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>As long as it&#039;s not two left ones...</p><p><img src="http://forum.driverpacks.net/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" /></p><br /><p>(Funny how bidexterity literally means two right hands...)</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Helmi]]></name>
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			<updated>2008-08-12T22:59:12Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Removal of languages]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>i have two hans... a left and a right! <img src="http://forum.driverpacks.net/img/smilies/tongue.png" width="15" height="15" alt="tongue" /></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[OverFlow]]></name>
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			<updated>2008-08-12T20:05:56Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Removal of languages]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>And im no Hans either <img src="http://forum.driverpacks.net/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[muiz]]></name>
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			<updated>2008-08-12T09:49:46Z</updated>
			<id>http://forum.driverpacks.net/viewtopic.php?pid=23139#p23139</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Removal of languages]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>But maybe he still agrees on stable beating latest, who knows (if not you!)? <img src="http://forum.driverpacks.net/img/smilies/tongue.png" width="15" height="15" alt="tongue" /></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Helmi]]></name>
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			<updated>2008-08-11T21:00:18Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Removal of languages]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Helmi wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>though that leaves me clueless as to who this Hans guy is...</p></blockquote></div><p>Umm, my dad&#039;s name is Hans, but he has no clue what I do here, so it&#039;s irrelevant.&nbsp; Move along people, nothing to see here! <img src="http://forum.driverpacks.net/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[mr_smartepants]]></name>
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			<updated>2008-08-11T19:40:12Z</updated>
			<id>http://forum.driverpacks.net/viewtopic.php?pid=23118#p23118</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Removal of languages]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Jaak wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>this is not my idea, but ours. Jeff, Erik, Hans and all other team members agree to stable.</p></blockquote></div><p>In case you were referring to me, my name&#039;s not Hans, despite being German <img src="http://forum.driverpacks.net/img/smilies/tongue.png" width="15" height="15" alt="tongue" /></p><p>Martin will do fine, but basically everyone calls me Helmi IRL, anyway <img src="http://forum.driverpacks.net/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p><br /><p>If you did not refer to me (though that leaves me clueless as to who this Hans guy is...), I sincerely beg your pardon!</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Helmi]]></name>
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			<updated>2008-08-11T12:25:38Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Removal of languages]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>the real strength in DriverPacks is that a user can select and modify a DP.</p><p>There is No perfect set of drivers.<br />There is no perfect set of DriverPacks.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Jaak]]></name>
				<uri>http://forum.driverpacks.net/profile.php?id=327</uri>
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			<updated>2008-08-11T08:07:50Z</updated>
			<id>http://forum.driverpacks.net/viewtopic.php?pid=23098#p23098</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Removal of languages]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Hi LeV,</p><p>it would be eXtra work to remove languages. (Looking at a driver&#039;s install routine is work. I see some in which it is a hopeless task, as each language has its own INI and each INI is actually referenced in main INF, or the INF is poking a INI which is calling other INI.)<br />DriverPacks experts and team members are not infallible, but we usually know what can break a driver.</p><p>I also think we have to get size out of the picture.<br />There was never a rule of making it as small (DISC burn limit) as possible. <br />USERS reQuested it be as small as possible, but more oft than not, that was not the smartest solution.</p><p>MY ideal is:<br />A small enough memory footprint with the Least conflict. (mass)<br />Everything, with no conflict. (all other, and mass)<br />Stable drivers before the latest.</p><p>this is not my idea, but ours. Jeff, Erik, Hans and all other team members agree to stable.<br />Conflicts are hard to find. (How on earth could machine coders use same routines for widely different hardware, and get WHQL certified when they submitted the driver..)<br />Instability in a driver (by its own) is a nightmare to us.<br />I have seen a site boasting they can give you the perfect driver.<br />I cannot say we have the perfect set, and we do not boast we have that set.<br />We help you by filtering. A good many conflicts were eliminated in the last two years.<br />You (members/team/testers) help us by telling us what works, and what doesn&#039;t.</p><p>I&#039;ve been busy outside DriverPacks. While I was not focusing, I could see a wider perspective.<br />I think I still fit in that picture, and regret I have a real life project stealing a lot of time.<br />(house remodelling)</p>]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[Jaak]]></name>
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			<updated>2008-08-11T07:36:21Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Removal of languages]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I agree but the addon idea is nice as long as it dos not require too much work. We already have enough.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[JakeLD]]></name>
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			<updated>2008-08-10T19:42:23Z</updated>
			<id>http://forum.driverpacks.net/viewtopic.php?pid=23084#p23084</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Removal of languages]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>It is my intention to keep all the DriverPacks that I build as international as possible.&nbsp; I will not remove any additional languages just to save space.&nbsp; Besides, that&#039;s more work for me! <img src="http://forum.driverpacks.net/img/smilies/big_smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="big_smile" /></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[mr_smartepants]]></name>
				<uri>http://forum.driverpacks.net/profile.php?id=1602</uri>
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			<updated>2008-08-10T19:22:55Z</updated>
			<id>http://forum.driverpacks.net/viewtopic.php?pid=23081#p23081</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Removal of languages]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>No, no, please don&#039;t remove other languages because most of my windows install are in other languages than english.</p><p>If other languages are available with an other supplementary pack that could be ok but if you listen to other users maybe i am not the only one wishing to keep all the languages like they are.</p><p>Keep on the good work all of you.</p><p>Big thanks to all the Driverpacks team.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[woody22]]></name>
				<uri>http://forum.driverpacks.net/profile.php?id=1509</uri>
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			<updated>2008-08-10T18:50:32Z</updated>
			<id>http://forum.driverpacks.net/viewtopic.php?pid=23080#p23080</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Removal of languages]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Because, maybe non-English speakers would like to have their own language&#039;s files included?</p><p>Although, granted, that could be served through a langauge addon pack.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Helmi]]></name>
				<uri>http://forum.driverpacks.net/profile.php?id=25</uri>
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			<updated>2008-08-10T17:58:39Z</updated>
			<id>http://forum.driverpacks.net/viewtopic.php?pid=23078#p23078</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Removal of languages]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Why not to remove all languages except english?<br />i.e., after removing multilingual help and files from DP_Graphics_A it&#039;s size has decreased from 88 Mb to 62 Mb.</p><p>p.s. Sorry for bad english <img src="http://forum.driverpacks.net/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[LeV]]></name>
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			<updated>2008-08-10T13:27:40Z</updated>
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