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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Is there a way to use DriverPacks using RIS & *NOT* using a $OEM$?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Please understand that I have been using this system for about 2-3 years now... I am using RIS that comes with Server 2003. I know of no other thing lol. The templates are named as I said [microsoft&#039;s own docs can be dodgy sometimes remember <img src="http://forum.driverpacks.net/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" />]... and you can have multiple ones.</p><p>Your first link I used to visit very regularly, using RogueSpear&#039;s AutoRIS script&#039;s, until he made his own site and subsequently made a new tool called AutoImage. This is what I am using and works very well with everything I&#039;ve thrown at it.</p><br /><p>I *know* they are not the same. I never stated they were. In a RIS setup [at least as far as AutoImage uses it], it creates things differently. Obviously you havent used it or you would know this <img src="http://forum.driverpacks.net/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" /></p><p>I can assure you that the XP build works fine and installs the extra drivers [unless its just some fluke hehe]</p><p>None of this is helping me with my original question tho.... </p><p>Nath.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[tarquel]]></name>
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			<updated>2007-09-17T08:46:44Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Is there a way to use DriverPacks using RIS & *NOT* using a $OEM$?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Are you using the official Microsoft Remote Installation Services?&nbsp; Because everything I&#039;ve read about the MS RIS says that unattended.txt is the &quot;template&quot;....</p><p>But... Uh...&nbsp; Here....&nbsp; Try looking around these places for help:</p><p><a href="http://www.msfn.org/board/Unattended_RIS_Installation_f127.html">http://www.msfn.org/board/Unattended_RI … _f127.html</a></p><p><a href="http://technet2.microsoft.com/windowsserver/en/library/c62e5951-5eb9-42f1-95ae-490e5d7a55511033.mspx?mfr=true">http://technet2.microsoft.com/windowsse … x?mfr=true</a></p><br /><p>The first one is specifically unattended windows installs, which encompass the $OEM$ folder.</p><p>However...</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>tarquel wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>The XP build looks like this:</p><div class="codebox"><pre><code>RISIMAGENAME\   &gt;   i386\
                &gt;   $OEM$\   &gt;   $1\</code></pre></div><p>and inside the $1 directory are the B.T.S. files and bin directory.</p></blockquote></div><p>My bin directory is located inside a folder called &quot;OEM&quot; which sits beside &quot;$OEM$&quot;.&nbsp; They are NOT the same. <img src="http://forum.driverpacks.net/img/smilies/hmm.png" width="15" height="15" alt="hmm" /></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[TigerC10]]></name>
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			<updated>2007-09-14T21:01:57Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Is there a way to use DriverPacks using RIS & *NOT* using a $OEM$?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><blockquote><p>From what I understand, a RIS install uses unattended.txt by default instead of winnt.sif</p></blockquote></div><p>Nope <img src="http://forum.driverpacks.net/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /> the name of it can be anything so long as it ends in .sif and resides in the templates folder inside i386 of the image. Its not quite like a CD install, which is why people need to use caution with RIS installs.</p><div class="quotebox"><blockquote><p>The base really should alter/create one of those...&nbsp; But it doesn&#039;t since it expects the install platform to be a disc.</p></blockquote></div><p>If it made it and put it in the usual location of a CD install, it would serve no purpose as RIS doesnt take it&#039;s templates from there [as mentioned above] plus there are differences in a RIS template and a normal CD-based one.</p><p>Havent the time unfortunately to go into the details of RIS for you, but i appreciate your feedback etc.</p><div class="quotebox"><blockquote><p>Those files that get altered are in the I386 directory (get used during install), and I would think that they use relative paths to refer to the OEM directory for the drivers.&nbsp; So if you put the OEM directory side by side with I386, then it shouldn&#039;t have a problem...&nbsp; I only mentioned opening the files to look for absolute paths because an absolute path would definetly screw something up (but I seriously don&#039;t think that you have to worry about absolute paths).</p></blockquote></div><p>I agree with you there, however, you are missing my point.</p><p>Unless you use RIS, you wont fully understand what I mean, not the layout as i believe DP fully supports RIS installs, being that a XP RIS install [using RVM/NLITE/B.T.S.] works perfectly. I use AutoImage for this and i dont have a problem here.</p><p>The XP build looks like this:</p><div class="codebox"><pre><code>RISIMAGENAME\   &gt;   i386\
                &gt;   $OEM$\   &gt;   $1\</code></pre></div><p>and inside the $1 directory are the B.T.S. files and bin directory.</p><p>This may be down to how AutoImage uses DP_Base via API to add the drivers but I can&#039;t be 100%. All I know is it works for XP like this, but doesnt for the specific version of the OS I&#039;ve mentioned. And even if i dont use Bâshrat the Sneaky at all, i still get the BSOD issue unless i work out a way to not use the $OEM$ directory you see.</p><p>The issue is fundementally confusing but i&#039;ll find a way somehow <img src="http://forum.driverpacks.net/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p><p>Any RIS users about please post... would help me out to know if i&#039;m alone in this specific problem or not lol</p><p>Regards<br />Nath.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[tarquel]]></name>
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			<updated>2007-09-14T14:57:21Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Is there a way to use DriverPacks using RIS & *NOT* using a $OEM$?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>From what I understand, a RIS install uses unattended.txt by default instead of winnt.sif (it&#039;s the exact same thing as winnt.sif, but with a different name - go figure).&nbsp; The base really should alter/create one of those...&nbsp; But it doesn&#039;t since it expects the install platform to be a disc.</p><p>Those files that get altered are in the I386 directory (get used during install), and I would think that they use relative paths to refer to the OEM directory for the drivers.&nbsp; So if you put the OEM directory side by side with I386, then it shouldn&#039;t have a problem...&nbsp; I only mentioned opening the files to look for absolute paths because an absolute path would definetly screw something up (but I seriously don&#039;t think that you have to worry about absolute paths).</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[TigerC10]]></name>
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			<updated>2007-09-14T14:27:32Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Is there a way to use DriverPacks using RIS & *NOT* using a $OEM$?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>As you may have noticed, i have trouble explaining myself sometimes... mainly down to time constraints and not wishing to spend every waking moment on a forum <img src="http://forum.driverpacks.net/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" /></p><div class="quotebox"><blockquote><p>Have you tried just putting the OEM folder side by side with the I386 folder on your RIS drive?</p></blockquote></div><p>Nope, as its not really the issue, as how would I start the process off?</p><p>It works fine with other images, just seems to be this particular OS - not 2003, but 2003 Ent SP2 [R2].</p><p>WINNT.sif isn&#039;t used on RIS installations as RIS installations use multiple templates that you can &quot;pick &amp; choose&quot; during the F12 process.</p><p>Thanks for the info. Interesting stuff, but not sure how it will apply to a RIS install.</p><p>Nath.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[tarquel]]></name>
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			<updated>2007-09-14T13:41:26Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Is there a way to use DriverPacks using RIS & *NOT* using a $OEM$?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>DriverPacks get put in the OEM folder, which is not to be confused with the $OEM$ folder.&nbsp; Have you tried just putting the OEM folder side by side with the I386 folder on your RIS drive?</p><p>Here&#039;s a list of the files that get changed and backed up by DriverPacks (may or may not be complete):</p><p>ADPU160M.sy_ -&gt; adpu160m.org<br />ALIDE.sy_ -&gt; ALIDE.org<br />DAC2W2K.sy_ -&gt; dac2w2k.org<br />DAC960NT.sy_ -&gt; dac960nt.org<br />dosnet.inf -&gt; dosnet.org<br />DPTI2O.sy_ -&gt; DPTI2O.org<br />MRAID35x.sy_ -&gt; mraid35x.org<br />QL12160.sy_ -&gt; ql12160.org<br />txtsetup.sif -&gt; txtsetup.org<br />ULTRA.sy_ -&gt; ultra.org<br />WINNT.sif -&gt; winnt.org</p><p>The .org is a backup of the original.&nbsp; I recommend expanding the modified files, and looking to see if there&#039;s are direct paths which you can alter to your network location.</p><br /><br /><p>The only thing that gets put in the $OEM$ folder is the finisher.&nbsp; The finisher doesn&#039;t install drivers, nor does it make the computer recognize drivers - it&#039;s designed to add in the necessary software like the ATI Control Panel.&nbsp; Just little things like that.&nbsp; You should have drivers just fine, although you might experience a problem with the call to the finisher (GUIRunOnce or RunOnceEX - but all you have to do is take it out of there and you won&#039;t get the error).</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[TigerC10]]></name>
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			<updated>2007-09-14T12:20:14Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Is there a way to use DriverPacks using RIS & *NOT* using a $OEM$?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;ll do my best to explain what I mean....</p><p>I have a issue in that Windows Server 2003 Enterprise SP2 R2 32-bit does not work with the setting:</p><div class="codebox"><pre><code>OEMPreinstall = YES</code></pre></div><p>in the .sif templates and using a $OEM$ folder.</p><p>[It gives a BSOD regarding the file SETUPDD.sys and a error code of 0x000000BE - have started a thread here: <a href="http://www.doitrightconsulting.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=347">http://www.doitrightconsulting.net/foru … .php?t=347</a> ]</p><p>If i remove the $OEM$ folder and change the setting to &quot;No&quot;, it installs fine, although of course, I have no drivers installed in this case.</p><br /><br /><p>I&#039;m wondering if there is a way to use the driverpacks in another way...i.e. by not having to have them inside a $OEM$ folder.</p><p>Is there a way to run a script on first logon that will copy them from i386 to the hard drive, and then perform the processes? Or to make them packaged as a switchless installer that can run at T-13. I&#039;m not sure at which point it joins the domain, but i guess its not the end of the world if it doesnt.</p><p>The most important thing here is the LAN drivers really if there is another way to do it... because at least it could join the domain and i can set other things in motion to install the rest of the drivers [and the R2 add-on too].</p><p>Any thoughts welcome.... has anyone had any problems with this?</p><p>Cheers<br />Nath.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2007-09-14T09:27:39Z</updated>
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