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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: SAS vs SATA vs RAID vs Bus-Extenders]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>@ Helmi et OverFlow et EchoPlatoon.<br />That HWID database Helmi just stickied lists some interesting facts.<br /><a href="http://forum.driverpacks.net/viewtopic.php?pid=12573#p12573">http://forum.driverpacks.net/viewtopic. … 573#p12573</a></p><p>Rich, this work we did will pay off.<br />You can see I posted a link to what we worked on.<br />Its based on what&#039;s in Mass storage INI.<br />And, what&#039;s in the INI must not cause a conflict once PnP runs. <br />Therefore, some INF&#039;s got edited.</p><p>Jeff, our work on LAN can be linked to too. <br />(it has relevance, because what we did was useful in dupe filenames/INF names)</p><p>Why I started this topic is obvious now.<br />Some drivers cannot be IN the packs. <br />A driver for NEWER BIOS/Firmware causes BSOD when the user has OLDER BIOS/firmware, and when the ORIGINAL old and ORIGINAL newer have 100 percent HWID match, there is NO WAY to write an exception that would find a NON-COMMON to disable the other driver.<br />THE EDIT HERE ADDED ORIGINAL to above paragraph.<br />(because some INF had changes, origininal content must looked at too.)</p><p>The SFXminiPacks idea was approved.<br />If we have a single HWID in a BIOS for an OLD BIOS that is NOT in the newer driver, then I would very much like to see exceptions written so that both BIOS versions of a chip could be in the DriverPacks.</p><p>I would not know how to write that sort of exception, but, we&#039;s going to be a team with real solutions.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Jaak]]></name>
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			<updated>2007-07-13T19:43:20Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: SAS vs SATA vs RAID vs Bus-Extenders]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>OverFlow wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>looks like it might be like the raid / non raid thing again <br />or just a duplicate?</p></blockquote></div><p>Yeah, but without the ususal different HWIDs for each case...</p><p>I wish HW manufacturers would put more efford into the IDs.<br />It can&#039;t be that hard to manage that properly, especially since they already re given unique manufacturer IDs in the first place!</p><p><img src="http://forum.driverpacks.net/img/smilies/hmm.png" width="15" height="15" alt="hmm" /></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Helmi]]></name>
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			<updated>2007-07-13T18:32:51Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: SAS vs SATA vs RAID vs Bus-Extenders]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I was reading on IBM that SAS drives use RAID functionality on such controllers as ServeRAID 8s which is one of the controllers in both [I-4] and [I-5]</p><p>Here is the article on IBM&#039;s website about ServeRAID 8s.<br /><a href="http://www-304.ibm.com/jct01004c/systems/support/supportsite.wss/docdisplay?brandind=5000008&amp;lndocid=MIGR-5069848">http://www-304.ibm.com/jct01004c/system … GR-5069848</a></p><p>Under &quot;Features, functions, and key advantages&quot; on that page, it states that &quot;IBM ServeRAID 8s SAS Controller (39R8765)&quot; &quot;Functions as a hard drive RAID controller&quot;.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Echo_Platoon]]></name>
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			<updated>2007-07-12T12:35:20Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: SAS vs SATA vs RAID vs Bus-Extenders]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>looks like it might be like the raid / non raid thing again <br />or just a duplicate?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[OverFlow]]></name>
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			<updated>2007-07-12T05:55:52Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: SAS vs SATA vs RAID vs Bus-Extenders]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>yep, Mr. Holmes, you are right.<br />Those INI sections do not exist in the release.</p><p>But, the files for i-3, i-4, i-5 and i-6 are in the pack. (I think a request was not finalised, but the files were in none the less)</p><p>Ruudboek, if you read this, have a look.<br />they are all SCSI miniport, and i-5 is SAS</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Jaak]]></name>
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			<updated>2007-07-12T00:11:02Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[SAS vs SATA vs RAID vs Bus-Extenders]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Many Mass Storage drivers we download have overlap in HWIDs.</p><p>we have a dillemma.<br /><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serial_Attached_SCSI">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serial_Attached_SCSI</a></p><p>We must know wether SAS and server RAID drivers can co-exist in the DriverPacks.</p><p>full overlap.<br /></p><div class="codebox"><pre><code>[I-4]
ms_count=1
ms_1_deviceName=&quot;IBM ServeRAID 8i/8k/8k-l/8s RAID by ADAPTEC&quot;
ms_1_tag=&quot;aacsas&quot;
ms_1_sysFile=&quot;aacsas.sys&quot;
ms_1_hwids=&quot;PCI\VEN_9005&amp;DEV_0285&amp;SUBSYS_02f21014,PCI\VEN_9005&amp;DEV_0286&amp;SUBSYS_95801014,PCI\VEN_9005&amp;DEV_0286&amp;SUBSYS_029D9005,PCI\VEN_9005&amp;DEV_0286&amp;SUBSYS_029C9005,PCI\VEN_9005&amp;DEV_0286&amp;SUBSYS_029B9005,PCI\VEN_9005&amp;DEV_0286&amp;SUBSYS_02A09005,PCI\VEN_9005&amp;DEV_0286&amp;SUBSYS_02A69005,PCI\VEN_9005&amp;DEV_0286&amp;SUBSYS_02A19005,PCI\VEN_9005&amp;DEV_0285&amp;SUBSYS_02989005,PCI\VEN_9005&amp;DEV_0285&amp;SUBSYS_02999005,PCI\VEN_9005&amp;DEV_0285&amp;SUBSYS_029A9005,PCI\VEN_9005&amp;DEV_0285&amp;SUBSYS_02A49005,PCI\VEN_9005&amp;DEV_0285&amp;SUBSYS_02A59005,PCI\VEN_9005&amp;DEV_0285&amp;SUBSYS_034D1014,PCI\VEN_9005&amp;DEV_0286&amp;SUBSYS_02A29005,PCI\VEN_9005&amp;DEV_0286&amp;SUBSYS_02A39005,PCI\VEN_9005&amp;DEV_0286&amp;SUBSYS_02AC9005,PCI\VEN_9005&amp;DEV_0286&amp;SUBSYS_02A79005,PCI\VEN_9005&amp;DEV_0286&amp;SUBSYS_02A99005,PCI\VEN_9005&amp;DEV_0286&amp;SUBSYS_02B39005,PCI\VEN_9005&amp;DEV_0286&amp;SUBSYS_02B49005,PCI\VEN_9005&amp;DEV_0286&amp;SUBSYS_02A89005,PCI\VEN_9005&amp;DEV_0286&amp;SUBSYS_02AA9005,PCI\VEN_9005&amp;DEV_0285&amp;SUBSYS_02B59005,PCI\VEN_9005&amp;DEV_0285&amp;SUBSYS_02B69005,PCI\VEN_9005&amp;DEV_0285&amp;SUBSYS_02B79005,PCI\VEN_9005&amp;DEV_0285&amp;SUBSYS_02B09005,PCI\VEN_9005&amp;DEV_0285&amp;SUBSYS_02B515D9,PCI\VEN_9005&amp;DEV_0285&amp;SUBSYS_02B615D9&quot;
ms_1_isBusExtender=false
ms_1_exc_skipIfOS=&quot;wxp&quot;
ms_1_exc_disableIfOS=&quot;w2k&quot;
ms_1_exc_replaceIfOS=&quot;w2k3&quot;



[I-5]
ms_count=1
ms_1_deviceName=&quot;IBM ServeRAID 8i/8k/8k-l/8s SAS MiniPort by ADAPTEC&quot;
ms_1_tag=&quot;arcsas&quot;
ms_1_sysFile=&quot;arcsas.sys&quot;
ms_1_hwids=&quot;PCI\VEN_9005&amp;DEV_0285&amp;SUBSYS_02f21014,PCI\VEN_9005&amp;DEV_0286&amp;SUBSYS_95801014,PCI\VEN_9005&amp;DEV_0285&amp;SUBSYS_034D1014,PCI\VEN_9005&amp;DEV_0286&amp;SUBSYS_029D9005,PCI\VEN_9005&amp;DEV_0286&amp;SUBSYS_029C9005,PCI\VEN_9005&amp;DEV_0286&amp;SUBSYS_029B9005,PCI\VEN_9005&amp;DEV_0286&amp;SUBSYS_02A09005,PCI\VEN_9005&amp;DEV_0286&amp;SUBSYS_02A69005,PCI\VEN_9005&amp;DEV_0286&amp;SUBSYS_02A19005,PCI\VEN_9005&amp;DEV_0285&amp;SUBSYS_02989005,PCI\VEN_9005&amp;DEV_0285&amp;SUBSYS_02999005,PCI\VEN_9005&amp;DEV_0285&amp;SUBSYS_029A9005,PCI\VEN_9005&amp;DEV_0285&amp;SUBSYS_02A49005,PCI\VEN_9005&amp;DEV_0285&amp;SUBSYS_02A59005,PCI\VEN_9005&amp;DEV_0286&amp;SUBSYS_02A29005,PCI\VEN_9005&amp;DEV_0286&amp;SUBSYS_02A39005,PCI\VEN_9005&amp;DEV_0286&amp;SUBSYS_02AC9005,PCI\VEN_9005&amp;DEV_0286&amp;SUBSYS_02A79005,PCI\VEN_9005&amp;DEV_0286&amp;SUBSYS_02A99005,PCI\VEN_9005&amp;DEV_0286&amp;SUBSYS_02B39005,PCI\VEN_9005&amp;DEV_0286&amp;SUBSYS_02B49005,PCI\VEN_9005&amp;DEV_0286&amp;SUBSYS_02A89005,PCI\VEN_9005&amp;DEV_0286&amp;SUBSYS_02AA9005,PCI\VEN_9005&amp;DEV_0285&amp;SUBSYS_02B59005,PCI\VEN_9005&amp;DEV_0285&amp;SUBSYS_02B69005,PCI\VEN_9005&amp;DEV_0285&amp;SUBSYS_02B79005,PCI\VEN_9005&amp;DEV_0285&amp;SUBSYS_02B09005,PCI\VEN_9005&amp;DEV_0285&amp;SUBSYS_02B515D9,PCI\VEN_9005&amp;DEV_0285&amp;SUBSYS_02B615D9&quot;
ms_1_isBusExtender=false
ms_1_exc_skipIfOS=&quot;wxp&quot;
ms_1_exc_disableIfOS=&quot;w2k&quot;
ms_1_exc_replaceIfOS=&quot;w2k3&quot;</code></pre></div>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Jaak]]></name>
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			<updated>2007-07-12T00:05:10Z</updated>
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